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Old Dec 14th, 2011, 12:27 PM   #61
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the conservatives seem to realize, that all they have to do, is say it as if it were true, and people will believe them. Then shout and point the finger if anyone dares to question this.

Kind of a familiar theme with some I encounter.



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Old Dec 14th, 2011, 05:33 PM   #62
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the conservatives seem to realize, that all they have to do, is say it as if it were true, and people will believe them. Then shout and point the finger if anyone dares to question this.

Kind of a familiar theme with some I encounter.
Yep they learned that from the old Fuddle Duddle himself. The liar may be red or blue, but the effect is equally as irritating.
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Old Dec 14th, 2011, 05:42 PM   #63
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you're right, though I think the er, "new" conservatives have taken it to a new level. The lies now are practically a daily occurrence, nothing to see here move along. Y'know.




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Old Dec 14th, 2011, 06:17 PM   #64
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Yeah we need it. It will help bolster the economy.
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Nope. What we need is new uniforms. I can't get any because there isn't any money left to purchase new ones.
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Old Dec 19th, 2011, 04:59 PM   #66
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cfb petawawa, my dad was stationed there when I was kindergarten. Think the school was pinecrest or something that.



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Pinecrest is still here. I went to it too. Same with General Panet And Rivercrest(Now St. Francis Of Assisi) The only school that is gone is L'colnel Forbes. They demolished it a few years ago.

As for the town, not much has changed. Just a lot more houses.
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Old Dec 19th, 2011, 05:02 PM   #68
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Nope. What we need is new uniforms. I can't get any because there isn't any money left to purchase new ones.
Really? Ouch.

Didn't realize things were that bad.
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Old Dec 19th, 2011, 05:08 PM   #69
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wonder how many uniforms could have been bought with the one billion dollar boondoggle photo op g20/g8 or the 50 million for gazebos.

Or the 12 billion on corp tax cuts that was supposed to create jobs, but never did. The liberals cut and ignore, the conservatives say they're gonna, but spend wads on everything else.



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Old Dec 19th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #70
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Pretty much man. I pay taxes too.. (Around 1/4 of my total pay a month) so I complain just like anyone else.

It was like as soon as we pulled out of Afgan the money went with it. Or so it seems. Probably reallocated or something.

But I will admit that this is probably one of the best times there has been to be in the forces.

I wonder how many doctors/nurses/etc that money from the g8/20 could have hired on?

Back to the topic.. Yes. The CF18 is aging. She's a good solid bird, but it is getting old. Do I think the F35 is a valid replacement? No. I don't personally see why we need brand new fighters when we have subs sitting in dry-dock waiting moneys for repairs and the sea kings being patched together with gun tape.

Each aircraft costs $90m ish (Ref:The F-35 jet cost controversy: now we're getting somewhere - Capital Read, John Geddes - Macleans.ca )

90 million dollars. Each.

Im looking at the LAV3 (Its our primary fighting vehicle, each unit costs roughly $1.4mil to #1.5 million each.

So for each F35 we purchase. We could have bought 60 LAV3 fighting vehicles. And probably have enough change for a whole slew of new personal equipment. Boots, rucksacks, nice warm coats, etc...

I see the reasoning behind replacing the CF18, but personally I think they need to take a deeper look into what the CF really needs instead of listing to pilots whining and crying.
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