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BigDL Sep 30th, 2010 04:36 PM

Guess Who/Randy Bachman named Canada's Top Rocker
 
Bob Mersereau's new book names the Guess Who's American the number one Canadian single.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBC News
Randy Bachman emerges as the "king of the Canadian single" in the new book The Top 100 Canadian Singles.

A followup to Bob Mersereau's The Top 100 Canadian Albums, the list is sure to provoke debate among music lovers.

Guess Who song American Woman is No. 1 on the list, one of four Guess Who singles chosen by a group of music lovers who helped compile the list. There are also two by BTO, including Taking Care of Business at No. 8 and two by Trooper, the power trio produced by Bachman.

The rest of the story here

So Ehmacians let's have at it, how right or wrong did this book get it?

i-rui Sep 30th, 2010 04:46 PM

I'd rank The Guess Who as Canada's best Rock group, so i think they got it right.

G-Mo Sep 30th, 2010 05:03 PM

Seriously? Is this a joke?

BigDL Sep 30th, 2010 05:13 PM

Seriously, NO!

It's from a new book.

FeXL Sep 30th, 2010 05:27 PM

Without having seen the top 100, I can't really say. As far as the top 10 are concerned, there is room to dispute Snowbird (can't freaking stand Anne Murray). The balance seem reasonable.

No issues w/ Randy Bachman & American Woman as #1.

BigDL Sep 30th, 2010 05:38 PM

I can't provide the top 100 list but from the Moncton Times & Transcript is the Top 20 list. Just gets curiouser and curiouser. What do you think.

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Originally Posted by Moncton Times& Transcript
The following are the Top 20 Canadian music singles, according to Bob Mersereau's new book, released today, The Top 100 Canadian Singles (Goose Lane Editions). The book asked hundreds of jury members their own personal top Canadian singles, and the top 100 was whittled down based on all the entries.
1. American Woman/No Sugar Tonight - The Guess Who
2. Heart of Gold - Neil Young
3. The Weight - The Band
4. Summer of '69 - Bryan Adams
5. Hallelujah - Leonard Cohen
6. Born To Be Wild - Steppenwolf
7. If You Could Read My Mind - Gordon Lightfoot
8. Takin' Care Of Business - Bachman-Turner Overdrive
9. Four Strong Winds - Ian & Sylvia
10. Snowbird - Anne Murray
11. Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell
12. Tom Sawyer - Rush
13. Try - Blue Rodeo
14. New Orleans Is Sinking - The Tragically Hip
15. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald - Gordon Lightfoot
16. Suzanne - Leonard Cohen
17. Life Is A Highway - Tom Cochrane
18. These Eyes - The Guess Who
19. Sundown - Gordon Lightfoot
20. Underwhelmed - Sloan

Link for Moncton T&T story here.

Macfury Sep 30th, 2010 05:40 PM

Bah! Where's BIM, or the THP Orchestra?

screature Sep 30th, 2010 05:42 PM

Well from a pure popularity stand point and place in top 10/100 lists over time "American Woman" ranks right up there... these kind of lists are always so highly subjective and ultimately provocative all they do is to serve as form of marketing for the author. That being said, regardless of ranking as far as popularity goes it is a good list. :)

screature Sep 30th, 2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Mo (Post 1014340)
Seriously? Is this a joke?

I take it you don't like the Guess Who.

BigDL Sep 30th, 2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfury (Post 1014355)
Bah! Where's BIM, or the THP Orchestra?

Maybe if you ask Roy Forbes he may be able to tell you.

minstrel Sep 30th, 2010 06:02 PM

American Woman/No Sugar Tonight? Pick one song! NST was paired with New Mother Nature! But I have to agree; Bachman (with Cummings) was/were the ultimate Canadian songwriter(s) of that era, if not all time (IMHO)

SINC Sep 30th, 2010 06:27 PM

The top "Canadian" single is "American" Woman? Spare me. I love the song but there is nothing Canadian about it and is the most ridiculous title they could have chosen. Had they picked the top Canadian "group" it works, but not this way.

hhk Sep 30th, 2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SINC (Post 1014371)
The top "Canadian" single is "American" Woman? Spare me. I love the song but there is nothing Canadian about it and is the most ridiculous title they could have chosen. Had they picked the top Canadian "group" it works, but not this way.

I think it's a great Canadian song. I always thought it referred to the way American culture and media tries to dominate us.

...
I don't need your war machines
I don't need your ghetto scenes
...

says it all. Love the song. Very, very Canadian.

And I'm a big fan of Randy Bachman. The only reason I bought TunedIn Radio for my iPhone is to record his CBC show.

BigDL Sep 30th, 2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SINC (Post 1014371)
The top "Canadian" single is "American" Woman? Spare me. I love the song but there is nothing Canadian about it and is the most ridiculous title they could have chosen. Had they picked the top Canadian "group" it works, but not this way.

I laughed when people (Lenny Kravitz) in the Excited States perform the song and their Excited listeners go nuts on the Chorus. :D

I had much the same reaction as Grandaddy Ronny rocking out the Republicans to Springsteen's "Born In The USA."

hhk Sep 30th, 2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDL (Post 1014381)
I laughed when people (Lenny Kravitz) in the Excited States perform the song and their Excited listeners go nuts on the Chorus. :D

I had much the same reaction as Grandaddy Ronny rocking out the Republicans to Springsteen's "Born In The USA."

How about Mellencamp's Pink Houses? Didn't either Bush or Reagan want to use that for their campaign?

screature Sep 30th, 2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hhk (Post 1014396)
How about Mellencamp's Pink Houses? Didn't either Bush or Reagan want to use that for their campaign?

Seriously... ? :confused: What does this have to do with the topic? Are just being a political troll? If If am mistaken in my assumption/question then forgive me, but I don't understand the relevance of your post to the thread.

This thread is about Canadian songs and artists isn't it? :confused:

screature Sep 30th, 2010 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SINC (Post 1014371)
The top "Canadian" single is "American" Woman? Spare me. I love the song but there is nothing Canadian about it and is the most ridiculous title they could have chosen. Had they picked the top Canadian "group" it works, but not this way.

I have to agree with hhk on this... it is a very Canadian song in that it would never have been written by an American artist or at least if it had it would have never reached the heights in the charts it did. For Americans it was possible for it to be be popular because it wasn't written by an American but from a foreigner's perspective.

I don't think it was a ridiculous title at all written from a male rock star perspective...

"America Woman" is analogous to Eve in the Garden of Eden trying to seduce the male to evil ways (as was the liberal political perspective of the time re: America and its foreign and domestic policies)... This would fit right within Randy Bachman's Mormon beliefs I think the title makes perfect sense.

irontree Sep 30th, 2010 09:12 PM

Wow I'm surprised that Rush placed so low!!

hhk Oct 1st, 2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by screature (Post 1014409)
Seriously... ? :confused: What does this have to do with the topic? Are just being a political troll? If If am mistaken in my assumption/question then forgive me, but I don't understand the relevance of your post to the thread.

This thread is about Canadian songs and artists isn't it? :confused:

Umm well, BigDL mentioned that Ronald Reagan used Born in the USA without really listening to the lyrics and I one-upped it with the Mellencamp example. Okay? Geez don't make me explain all my posts to you.

How that could be perceived as trolling is beyond me.

screature Oct 1st, 2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hhk (Post 1014478)
Umm well, BigDL mentioned that Ronald Reagan used Born in the USA without really listening to the lyrics and I one-upped it with the Mellencamp example. Okay? Geez don't make me explain all my posts to you.

How that could be perceived as trolling is beyond me.

Indeed, my bad. Sorry. :o

Elric Oct 1st, 2010 09:30 AM

I agree that this list is a "most popular" list. It is very very very far from a "Best" list however.

screature Oct 1st, 2010 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elric (Post 1014516)
I agree that this list is a "most popular" list. It is very very very far from a "Best" list however.

I think there are a few in there that would also warrant being in a best list as well.

ScanMan Oct 2nd, 2010 06:10 PM

IMO, that's actually a fine homegrown top 20. I'm hoping that One Fine Morning, Spinning Wheel, Patio Lanterns, If I had a Million Dollars, Building a Mystery, Sometimes When We Touch, High School Confidential, Echo Beach, Closer to the Heart... are elsewhere on the list.

BigDL Oct 2nd, 2010 07:07 PM

Thanks to the Toronto Star the whole enchilada
 
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/arts/ph...gles-cover.jpg

The entire top 100 singles list here. Discuss.

MACenstein'sMonster Oct 2nd, 2010 08:02 PM

Rusty - Misogyny

Big Wreck/Ian Thornley - That Song and Come Again

MACenstein'sMonster Oct 2nd, 2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDL (Post 1014848)

The fact that Ian Thornley didn't make the list with either Big Wreck or Thornley is tragically un-hip. That list blows harder than a prairie dust storm.

fellfromtree Oct 2nd, 2010 09:43 PM

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Unbelievable. There are idiotic multiples for some artists, yet glaring omissions.
NO
When I'm With You- Sheriff
Hard Sun- Indio (the Vedder cover is literally a cover of the original)
Radio Silence- Blue Peter
Phasors On Stun- FM
Blown Wide Open- Big Wreck
... and on and on

No Ian Thomas??????

... and as always, no love for Mr. Love

SINC Oct 2nd, 2010 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fellfromtree (Post 1014878)
Unbelievable. There are idiotic multiples for some artists, yet glaring omissions.
NO
When I'm With You- Sheriff
Hard Sun- Indio (the Vedder cover is literally a cover of the original)
Radio Silence- Blue Peter
Phasors On Stun- FM
Blown Wide Open- Big Wreck
... and on and on

No Ian Thomas??????

... and as always, no love for Mr. Love

Good Lord, thankfully so. :rolleyes:

ScanMan Oct 2nd, 2010 10:53 PM

Yeah, it's not a list gone horribly wrong...BUT there are some glaring oversights. For example, Loverboy gets in there...and not Heart?! I'm not a fan, but c'mon...Crazy On You, Magic Man, Dreamboat Annie, Barracuda...

Macfury Oct 2nd, 2010 11:02 PM

Pukka Orchestra's Listen to the Radio

ScanMan Oct 2nd, 2010 11:10 PM

Mandala "Love-itis"

MACenstein'sMonster Oct 3rd, 2010 01:12 AM

Forget the list for a minute. I'm still wondering Who Randy Bachman named Canada's Top Rocker. :)

fellfromtree Oct 3rd, 2010 09:57 AM

I'm betting Bachman picked Neil Young. He gives him a lot of love on Vinyl Tap. Email and ask him.

screature Oct 3rd, 2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScanMan (Post 1014895)
Yeah, it's not a list gone horribly wrong...BUT there are some glaring oversights. For example, Loverboy gets in there...and not Heart?! I'm not a fan, but c'mon...Crazy On You, Magic Man, Dreamboat Annie, Barracuda...

Heart is Canadian?

The Doug Oct 3rd, 2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screature (Post 1014966)
Heart is Canadian?

Yes and no. There are connections.

screature Oct 3rd, 2010 11:03 AM

Based on "Top Singles" and popularity, some omissions that come to mind:

Junkhouse - Out of My Head

Valdy - Rock and Roll Song

Dan Hill - Sometimes when we Touch
I'm not a fan but it was #1 in Canada and #3 on US Billboard Top 100 list of the time

Bruce Cockburn - Tokyo

and the most glaring of all no

Shania Twain - You're Still the One
again not a fan of her music (I like her though) but c'mon:

Quote:

...rose to fame in the mid 1990s with her album The Woman In Me (1995), and achieved worldwide success with her 1997 album Come On Over, which became the best-selling album of all time by a female musician, and the best selling country album of all time. The album Come on Over has sold over 39 million copies worldwide. Come on Over is also the 9th bestselling album in the U.S.[1]

]A five-time Grammy Award winner, Twain has also achieved major success as a songwriter, winning 27 BMI Songwriter awards.[2] Twain is one of the first country artists to achieve major crossover success in pop music. She is the only female musician to have three albums certified Diamond by the Recording Industry Association of America and is also the second best-selling artist in Canada, behind fellow Canadian Céline Dion, with three of her studio albums being certified double diamond by the Canadian Recording Industry Association. Twain has sold over 75 million albums worldwide[3] including 48 million in the U.S. She is ranked as the 10th best-selling artist of the Nielsen SoundScan era, with approximately 33.5 million in sales through April 2008.[4], Twain was ranked the 72nd Artist of the 2000–10 decade by Billboard. [5]

screature Oct 3rd, 2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doug (Post 1014970)
Yes and no. There are connections.

Well there you go, I did not know that, learned something new today, thanks Doug.

ScanMan Oct 3rd, 2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screature (Post 1014966)
Heart is Canadian?

Neil Young isn't American?

I consider Heart part of BC's Little Mountain/Mushroom sound of 80's. A bunch of expat Americans who hit it big in the great white north. Neil, OTOH has been living in Cali for going on 50 years. I'm a fan, but throwing on a plaid shirt once in a while doesn't cut it for me. I don't think he recorded even one of his 30+ albums on our side of the border.

screature Oct 3rd, 2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScanMan (Post 1014979)
Neil Young isn't American?

I consider Heart part of BC's Little Mountain/Mushroom sound of 80's. A bunch of expat Americans who hit it big in the great white north. Neil, OTOH has been living in Cali for going on 50 years. I'm a fan, but throwing on a plaid shirt once in a while doesn't cut it for me. I don't think he recorded even one of his 30+ albums on our side of the border.

I wasn't trying to be provocative SC, I just didn't know the connection. Yes I know what you are saying about Neil Young but no he isn't American just like Michael J. Fox, Mike Meyers, William Shatner, Joni Mitchell, Christopher Plummer, Donald Sutherland, etc., etc., aren't American.

They all went where the work was, I don't blame them for that and certainly wouldn't want to revoke their citizenship based on that.

My Dad was in the Airforce and for the first half of his life and spent almost as much time living outside the country as in it. I think it is up to an individual to decide where they consider themselves to be from and where "home" is for them. I was born in Nova Scotia with family ties that go back over 250 years, but I only lived there for a very short period of time in my childhood (albeit we visited my grandparents on the family farm with quite some regularity) yet I still consider myself to be a Nova Scotian and every time I go back I feel like I am home.

The Doug Oct 3rd, 2010 11:45 AM

All this just goes to show that lists are usually only meaningful to their creators, no?

That being said, here's my little ol' list for today:

Canadian Musical Artists Who Should Have Been Born In (And Forever Remained Within The Borders Of) Bulgaria:

1) Dan Hill
1.1) Justin Bieber
1.2) Celine Dion


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