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Old Oct 7th, 2019, 01:24 PM   #2081
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Where's CM, praising this use of government power to create a renewable mandate?
I'm sure The Bigot will be along shortly, pi$$ing & moaning about the paltry sum of taxpayer-based funding.

"WTF? Only $27 quadrillion?!"
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Old Oct 7th, 2019, 06:04 PM   #2082
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Green Dream to End Fossil Fuels Also Means Going without Plastics

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Have you ever seen the 1967 movie, “The Graduate,” where actor Dustin Hoffman, in the role of a young graduate, gets sage advice as to what field he should get into? "Plastics," young man, is the future was the recommendation. But where do plastics originate? Plastics are characterized as polymers. Polymers are long-chained monomers. Some examples of monomers are ethylene and propylene. When these monomers are polymerized they become polyethylene and polypropylene. From where do these monomers originate? They are products from oil and gas production.

The current crop of Democratic Party presidential wannabees have drunk the Green New Deal (GND) Kool-Aid. Stop fracking! Stop oil and gas production on federal lands! Ban offshore oil and gas production! Most of these “rocket scientists” come from states that import their refined products for transportation fuels and heating oil. They do not want any of those stinking oil refineries in their backyards but please continue to import the gasoline and diesel from refineries in the Virgin Islands or from Venezuelan-owned refineries. So where do we get plastics if oil and gas production ceases? Technology exists to convert coal into hydrocarbons but it is energy-intensive and very expensive. By the way, that technology was developed to further Hitler’s Nazi putsch to conquer the world. So do we return to a world of “Before Plastics”?
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Old Oct 8th, 2019, 10:59 AM   #2083
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North Carolina Energy Company Finds Solar Power Actually Increases Pollution

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Duke’s problem shows what happens when basic science collides with operational reality. Solar energy is intermittent. Until a reasonable storage technology is available, natural gas plants must operate when solar is brought on and off the grid. Put simply, the gas plant is generating power when the sun isn’t shining. Duke’s applications reportedly show that, due to the see-saw effect of deploying solar, emissions of the pollutant nitrogen oxide have increased, even though the level is lower than emissions from purely coal-based energy.
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Old Oct 19th, 2019, 11:48 PM   #2084
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Who made your job – a government, or an entrepreneur? We ignore the difference at our peril

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Artificial industries are being created by panicked policy, such as in Saskatchewan. The overwhelming desire to go green led the provincial utility to put in place a program that heavily-incented home solar installations, up to a certain cap. The lucrative terms led to a mini-boom, which is coming to an end as the utility hit the cap, and realized that further growth of the scheme could cost it $54 million per year. So the utility reworked the credit, cutting it in half. Outraged solar entrepreneurs filled the news with howls of outrage as their businesses face decimation, but the sad reality is the whole situation is yet another example of government policy distorting the landscape. Solar power may be competitive cost wise for a few hours a day, but from a systems perspective, adding more solar power (without as-yet-unavailable battery technology) simply means that utilities need to finance two systems.
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Old Oct 20th, 2019, 12:12 PM   #2085
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Project Titan is a shameful example of criminal negligence on the part of $TSLA. People should go to jail.

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  • Some homeowners with Tesla solar panels said they had been left frustrated as they wait for the company to fixed damaged panels on their roof.
  • On August 1, the roof of Briana Greer's home in Colorado caught fire as she waited for Tesla to send a crew to look at her panels. The company has yet to investigate the situation, she said.
  • Greer said that Tesla didn't properly maintain the panels. Homeowners in states from Maryland to Arizona with Tesla solar panels have also found dealing with Tesla to be frustrating, and they've been forced to pay regular fees as their systems have been shut off.
  • Current and former Tesla employees said that this is all related to "Project Titan," a secret program Tesla launched in the summer of 2018 to quietly change out faulty wiring on solar roofs across the country.
  • Business Insider sent Tesla an extensive list of claims made by customers and current and former solar employees for this story. Tesla did not reply to repeated requests for comment via phone calls, emails, or text messages.
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Old Oct 21st, 2019, 12:59 PM   #2086
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I post this more for than the quoted comments than anything.

Global Warming

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October 21, 2019 at 9:48 am

So here I am, stuck in this beautiful village of Havre Saint-Pierre on the Gaspe Peninsula in North Eastern Quebec flying a helicopter survey (the seafood is amazing). It’s a town full of Hydro Quebec employees and a few tourists. What most people probably don’t realize is that hydro electricity requires an incredible amount of fossil fuel.

Hydro Quebec employees are flown from their tiny villages all over Quebec to the remote hydro dams on Dash-8 aircraft.

The parking lots at the airports are jammed full of Ford trucks and Ford SUVs with their cute little red safety flags bobbing in the wind and the Hydro Quebec stickers on the driver’s door.

The roads to these remote dams cost about $500-$600 million each to build (using heavy equipment drawing on diesel power). They are paved highways available only to Quebec Hydro employees and their contractors. They are plowed in the winter using fossil fueled plows – not electric vehicles.

The hydro lines are initially attached to the poles using helicopters. Once attached they are inspected using helicopters. In the winter the helicopters use a wooden pole attached to a long-line to break the ice off the lines. As one pilot mentioned “you have to be careful because once the ice falls away the lines bounce up quite a bit”. Helicopter pilots have a knack for understating the obvious.

The nearest mobilization center is Sept Iles. There are 4 helicopter companies there, with the smallest operator owning at least 4 helicopters. Most of the work is for Hydro Quebec. Inspection, construction, monitoring. None of this work uses electricity. It is all fossil fuel.

So you can’t have clean hydro power without fossil fuel. Where have you heard that one before? Probably never. But we all know it takes a lot of fossil fuel to make a drum of oil. Which gets shipped to Hydro Quebec.

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October 21, 2019 at 10:11 am

Steve we can’t have any power without fossil fuels. Can’t make a wind turbine, can’t make a solar panel, can’t make anything that generates power without fossil fuels. The very naďve and or stupid among us seem to think it is possible but they are wrong.
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Old Nov 2nd, 2019, 01:44 PM   #2087
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We Don’t Need No Giant Leaky Mirrors

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Subsidy Fraud Boy has you covered.
Nobody wants a leaky roof. The consequences from water damage can be really expensive.

So Tesla needs to convince homeowners that its Solarglass roof, which hasn’t shown outside of a laboratory that it can withstand the test of time, is just as reliable as a regular roof. This at a time when Tesla is facing lawsuits from customers whose conventional rooftop solar arrays have caught fire.
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Old Nov 4th, 2019, 02:05 PM   #2088
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Germany's Giant Windmills Are Wildly Unpopular

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Despite their surging popularity in Germany and elsewhere in Europe, the Greens did badly in last Sunday’s election in the German state of Thuringia, and the nationalists from the Alternative for Germany Party (AfD) did very well. An important reason is that the Greens support wind energy and the AfD militates against wind turbines. The giant windmills have grown so unpopular in neighboring communities that their construction in Germany has all but ground to a halt.
Bold mine.

Perhaps there is some hope.
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Old Nov 6th, 2019, 04:09 PM   #2089
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If Only They Had Solar Panels

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Trucks lining up for grain dryer LP at Garden City, Minnesota.
Load em up! #harvest19 #gardencitymn #dryergas19 pic.twitter.com/llwpFnUDtD

— Bill Freitag (@bill_freitag) November 5, 2019
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Propane shortage in Upper Midwest is getting worse. Heard from sources today that it's becoming "life threatening" as schools/hospitals could soon be out. Our sources say the Governors could make a declaration to help ease regulatory issues and allow product to be shipped north

— Tyne Morgan (@Tyne_Ag) November 5, 2019
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Old Nov 6th, 2019, 05:55 PM   #2090
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If Only They Had Solar Panels
Q: What do you call a massive solar energy spill when grain needs to be dried?

A: Who cares when you're starving?
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