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Old May 15th, 2019, 12:03 PM   #2031
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In typical Prog fashion Musk figgers that by merely throwing money at a problem it will go away. No need to actually get your hands dirty...
Oh man, you said it! It's not like Musk is a Bill Gates, someone renowned for his wanderings through America's heartland, personally cleaning up Word viruses that had infected countless homes... A true hero!

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Old May 15th, 2019, 04:11 PM   #2032
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Hello, Bigot.

I don't have much positive to say about Gates, but you're comparing the two? Gates earned his money the old-fashioned way: he didn't subsidy farm.

And, and, his philanthropy work, as misguided as much of it is, puts him head, shoulders & skinny, freckled ass above Musk.

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Old May 15th, 2019, 04:54 PM   #2033
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Hello, Bigot.

I don't have much positive to say about Gates, but you're comparing the two? Gates earned his money the old-fashioned way: he didn't subsidy farm.

And, and, his philanthropy work, as misguided as much of it is, puts him head, shoulders & skinny, freckled ass above Musk.
Yup. One of them runs a business. Musk runs a Ponzi scheme disguised as an automobile company.
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Old May 16th, 2019, 02:14 PM   #2034
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Cue the music to "Another One Bites The Dust"!

After 5 years, Medicine Hat powers down $12M solar thermal power plant

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Low price of natural gas made solar power a too-pricey proposition.

These curved steel panels were part of a $12-million solar thermal power plant in Medicine Hat, Alta., that opened in 2014. This week, the city announced it was shutting down the facility. (City of Medicine Hat)

A concentrated solar thermal (CST) plant seemed like a good idea at one time — circa 2009 — but this week, the city of Medicine Hat pointed its solar panels down, shuttering the facility after five years of operation.

Collin Gallant, a reporter at the Medicine Hat News, said Wednesday in an interview with the Calgary Eyeopener that the plant wasn't a bad idea gone wrong, but rather a victim of persistently low natural gas prices.

"Back when this was thought up as an energy savings program, natural gas was about seven times more expensive than it is today," Gallant said.

The plant cost approximately $12 million, with half of that coming from the City of Medicine Hat, and $3 million from both the province and federal government.
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Old May 16th, 2019, 02:55 PM   #2035
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After 5 years, Medicine Hat powers down $12M solar thermal power plant
Stupid, stupid, stupid...

Medicine Hat owns its natural gas wells. The city is sitting on top of a massive pool of natural gas. They used to have some of the cheapest utility rates in the country because they've completely cut out the middle man.

And they figgered that solar could compete financially?

'Nuff said...
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Old May 22nd, 2019, 10:16 AM   #2036
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Further on the Med Hat solar powered TGF.

We Don’t Need No Stinking Giant Mirrors

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The southern Alberta city of Medicine Hat is pulling the plug on a $13-million concentrated solar power facility after operating it for about five years.

The project’s goal was to test whether the technology was a feasible way to employ the sun’s heat to replace some of the natural gas used to make steam at the city-owned power plant, said Coun. Phil Turnbull, chairman of the city’s utility committee.

The answer, unfortunately, was no, as the project’s small and unreliable contribution to the community’s power needs didn’t justify the cost of maintaining its rows of mirrors and pipes through snowy winters and dusty summer days, he said.

“I think people sometimes look at what we did and say, ’What a waste of money.’ But it wouldn’t have been a waste if it had been successful in taking it to the next step,” Turnbull said Thursday.
It was a waste of money, Phil.
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the money quote: “The project was to add about one megawatt of power to the 250-MW capacity main power plant, but it often didn’t even supply that much, he said.”

they spent more than $13 million to attempt to reduce the use of natural gas by 0.4% for less than 1/3 of a day on average.

for reference, Medicine Hat typically enjoys 2544 hours of sun a year.
As an aside, Med Hat is one of the sunniest cities in Canada. If solar can't make it there...

Also in the comments is a reminder about Red Rachel's $100 million solar power contract.
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$23-Billion just for one of the (how many needed?) Deep Geological Repository (DGR) sites to store nuclear waste in Ontario.

Tell me again how current-technology nuclear is cost-effective and addresses greenhouse gas emissions concerns?

Who pays for these nuclear waste disposal sites? Taxpayers any way you slice it.

And y'all are upset over a couple of friggin' windmills... yeah....

Canada’s nuclear waste to be buried in deep underground repository
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I don't care about CO2 and how it offends your Earth Mommy, CM.

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$23-Billion just for one of the (how many needed?) Deep Geological Repository (DGR) sites to store nuclear waste in Ontario.

Tell me again how current-technology nuclear is cost-effective and addresses greenhouse gas emissions concerns?

Who pays for these nuclear waste disposal sites? Taxpayers any way you slice it.

And y'all are upset over a couple of friggin' windmills... yeah....

Canada’s nuclear waste to be buried in deep underground repository
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Old May 29th, 2019, 09:40 PM   #2039
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Hello, Bigot.

Since when has the spending of taxpayer dollars on anything ever been an issue for a Prog? You haven't suddenly got religion, have you?

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Hydrogen station explodes, Toyota halts sales of fuel cell cars, is this the end?

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A hydrogen refueling station exploded in Norway on Monday and the company operating the station has suspended operation at its other locations following the explosion.

Now, Toyota and Hyundai are both halting sales of fuel cell vehicles in the country.

Does this spell the end of fuel cell hydrogen vehicles as a “zero-emission” alternative?

The Uno-X hydrogen station in Sandvika in Bærum exploded on Monday and resulted in two injuries in a nearby non-fuel cell vehicle.

According to the police, the explosion was strong enough that it activated the airbags in the vehicle without any impact.

The cause of the explosion is currently unknown and the rest of the refueling network is being shut down.
It'll be interesting to find out the cause.
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