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Old Apr 30th, 2019, 03:56 PM   #1441
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Daimler To Pull Smart Cars From Canada, U.S. Market

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One for sale down the street. Owner claims 39 MPG which is absolutely pathetic. Not sure if that is MPG or MPIG. As a comparison our little Echo has a lifetime average of over 37MPG (US).

Only reason to buy one of these is limited parking space.
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Old Apr 30th, 2019, 04:00 PM   #1442
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One for sale down the street. Owner claims 39 MPG which is absolutely pathetic. Not sure if that is MPG or MPIG. As a comparison our little Echo has a lifetime average of over 37MPG (US).

Only reason to buy one of these is limited parking space.
I drove one of these non-electrics in downtown Toronto for a few miles. Feels bigger inside than it looks, but the engine was absolutely gutless.
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Old May 1st, 2019, 12:58 PM   #1443
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We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars

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Now with third row seating.
Hey, want to see some spy pics of the "third row" that allows two "adults" to sit in back of a $TSLA Model Y? Are these two adults double-amputees, by any chance?$TSLAQ pic.twitter.com/CPCkOXI7l8
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But wait! There’s more! Tesla’s Firesale Of Its Solar Inventory Begins

And more yet! Ugly turns uglier…

Oh well. At least there’s SpaceX.
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Old May 21st, 2019, 03:22 PM   #1444
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Tesla Slashes Car Prices For The Third Time In 3 Months

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Tesla is cutting prices yet again, a clear sign that "demand hell" has set in for the embattled automaker, and that the weather in Shortsville may continue to be 85 degrees and sunny heading into the summer where Morgan Stanley now sees the "bear case" scenario for the stock as low as $10 per share.

Perhaps Tesla has finally figured out that there is simply not enough demand for its cars at the current price point, or worse, that its business model isn’t sustainable, resulting in what has been a 2019 full of business model changes, price cuts and employee layoffs.
Huh. Another 6 or 8 quarters like this & they might actually become affordable. Still undesirable, but at least affordable...
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Old May 28th, 2019, 06:27 PM   #1445
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Visualizing How Much Oil Is In An Electric Vehicle?

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When most people think about oil and natural gas, the first thing that comes to mind is the gas in the tank of their car. But, as Visual Capitalist's Nicholas LePan notes, there is actually much more to oil’s role, than meets the eye...

Oil, along with natural gas, has hundreds of different uses in a modern vehicle through petrochemicals.

Today’s infographic comes to us from American Fuel & Petrochemicals Manufacturers, and covers why oil is a critical material in making the EV revolution possible.
By all means, cut oil production. EV's will suffer just as much...
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Old Jun 3rd, 2019, 12:48 PM   #1446
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@Mtass7 – Policeman jumps out of the road to avoid getting hit by Tesla on autopilot.
The repatriation police have one of the most dangerous jobs in the Norwegian police. They must stand along Norwegian roads to measure speed, control belt and mobile use and stop those who break the law. Only protection is a yellow reflective vest.

Earlier in May, Christian Sørby from Modum learned that it is important to keep abreast of the cars he tries to stop. Because at the end of Verpsletta in Øvre Eiker there was a near accident with a Tesla on “autopilot”.

– I realized that neither the car nor the driver saw me, so I threw myself out of the way to get from it all without damage, explains Sørby to Bygdeposten .
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Old Jun 4th, 2019, 10:45 AM   #1447
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https://driving.ca/tesla/features/fe...g-up-in-flames

Lest we forget:
Lithium + air + heat = Spontaneous combustion

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On June 1, for instance, a Model S in Belgium caught fire while charging at a hotel Supercharger station. Firefighters, after a protracted battle, were able to extinguish the flames. OK, nothing new about a recharging incident or that battery fires can take some time to extinguish.

What happened next, however, was startling, at least to Yours Truly. After they were satisfied the initial inferno was sufficiently snuffed, the local fire department hoisted up the smouldering Model S and then submerged it in a container filled with water, the Antwerp authorities noting that Tesla batteries can continue to generate dangerous levels of heat for days after the initial fire has been extinguished.
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The problem, as has been written many times, is the lithium-ion that powers virtually every current electrified vehicle. More specifically, the issue is one of “thermal runaway,” a particularly nasty feedback loop that sees the fire feed on itself. The only solution, it seems, is to use torrents of water to cool the core. And, as fire departments around the world are finding out, to ensure that the flames, once initially extinguished, don’t reignite.

The issues are manifold. One is that, although there is no evidence EVs are more prone to self-immolation, their fires are unquestionably more difficult to put out. More importantly, the techniques involved are completely different and require specific training, not only for firefighters but for all first responders. According to Bloomberg Businessweek, police responding to a recent Florida crash tried to douse the flames with a department-issue fire extinguisher, which apparently had absolutely no effect.
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Old Jun 12th, 2019, 10:08 AM   #1448
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Death by Keyless ignition

Not really electric cars as such but worth passing along and not worth a new thread.

OK I admit I refuse to have anything to do with keyless ignitions. Modern vehicles tie throtle, brakes, transmission, cruise control and maybe even the steering to the onboard computer. If the computer locks up you have to hold down that start/stop button and pray it responds in time. No if ands or buts on the off chance the throttle lock wide open, my car has to have a way to instantly disable the ignition. Best bet is the good old key with accessory being positioned between on and off.

Here's another reason I would probably have never even thought of:
https://www.cartalk.com/blogs/jim-mo...yless-ignition

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Maybe I’m feeling my mortality these days, but I read not only the obituaries, but the small-type death notices, too. And in one such New York Times posting last week I encountered the story of James Duane Livingston, a distinguished 88-year-old researcher and MIT professor who died at his home in Sarasota, Florida along with his 81-year-old wife, Dr. Sherry Penney (the former interim president of both SUNY Plattsburgh and the University of Massachusetts). The cause: carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning via “a new car with a keyless ignition.”
Hard to summarize with a quick quote so please take the time to read the entire article.
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