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Old Feb 1st, 2006, 12:48 PM   #1
 
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You can't make this s--t up! (CBC news story)

link: http://www.cbc.ca/ottawa/story/ot-li...1.html?ref=rss

A clearer commentary on the state of public-sector unions has never been written.

However, this issue isn't unique to public libraries. I regularily go to Union Station in Toronto. The men's room gets cleared yearly, whether it needs it or not.

I stopped using the men's room at Yorkdale Mall. It's never cleaned, so I visit the loo at the bookstore (Chapter's or Indigo, I think.)
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Best news line this year: "scene of the grime."
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Old Feb 1st, 2006, 12:57 PM   #3
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This brings back memories of working in a union environment. It's good to know they're out there protecting us from unauthorized cleanliness.
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good grief - you think they would simply be happy not to have had to clean it up themselves!
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2 words: "work ownership"

Really, this may be a Toronto thing. Toronto is notorious for its poorly-maintained public washrooms, surly waiters, and unclean eating areas. Just yesterday, I was in a Tim Horton's on Queens Quay. The eating area was unclean, with unwiped tables and product wrappings everywhere. There were 2 or 3 staff behind the counter, but none chose to do anything about it for the 15 mins I was there. The Second Cup next door always looks just as bad.

The Starbucks across the street is kept clean, but it's usually busy, forcing me back to Tims or Second Cup. That's karma, that.
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This thread displays a profound misunderstanding of what unions are and what they do. Perhaps the news article confirms what you think you know, but that is fairly limited.

As for service and cleanliness in Toronto restaurants, I'm pretty sure there is a large range of quality available.
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This thread displays a profound misunderstanding of what unions are and what they do. Perhaps the news article confirms what you think you know, but that is fairly limited.
Not at all, the thread is based on a funny example that captures, in anecdotal form, a small part of the reality of unions. Like any power structure, they have flaws, maybe worse than others, maybe not. This thread is not about quantitative proof, but I guess some may miss that.

Your post, however, displays much regarding understanding and, perhaps, humour.
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This thread displays a profound misunderstanding of what unions are and what they do. Perhaps the news article confirms what you think you know, but that is fairly limited.
Perhaps you can enlighten us, then? Or is it just too "profound" for our limited understanding?

At the very least, we know they can't clean up poop at the public library within a 3 hour window.

I've never been one to complain about private-sector unions. Public-sector unions, on the other hand....

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As for service and cleanliness in Toronto restaurants, I'm pretty sure there is a large range of quality available.
No doubt. I'm sure that the bathrooms are clean at the Royal York Hotel. The point is: dirty tables and dirty washrooms are not quality no matter how you look at it. I could do without that "range of quality," thanks.
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