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Old Sep 19th, 2005, 11:00 AM   #1
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/19/te...gewanted=print <- no registration required

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Old Sep 19th, 2005, 12:30 PM   #2
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Interesting article Macspectrum, but reproduction of the entire password protected article on ehMac is in violation of the NY Times Copyright agreement. I know this has slid a couple of times on ehMac, but I've gotten notices about it so we're going to moderate this a little more.

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Old Sep 19th, 2005, 01:17 PM   #3
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Interesting article Macspectrum, but reproduction of the entire password protected article on ehMac is in violation of the NY Times Copyright agreement. I know this has slid a couple of times on ehMac, but I've gotten notices about it so we're going to moderate this a little more.
I don't want to start a debate here but the article is not a password protected document and it was not recreated or copied. The link goes directly to the NY Times site and includes all content as created by the Times. I went to the site independantly of the link and at no time was I required to log in to view this story.

If you are getting notices, there's not much we can do but I would consider this type of link to be free advertising for the Times. Having viewed one of the Times articles I, personally, am more likely to go back to view more. Isn't that how they stay in business? Does this type of link actually violate any of the copyright law or the spririt of the law?
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Old Sep 19th, 2005, 01:23 PM   #4
 
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No but the link was broadcast...

And yes, you need to be registered to view the article...
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Old Sep 19th, 2005, 01:25 PM   #5
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I read the article and I wasn't registered...
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Old Sep 19th, 2005, 02:30 PM   #7
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Whether the article is password protected or not, copying and pasting it here in it's entirety is in violation of the owners copyright.
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Old Sep 19th, 2005, 02:54 PM   #8
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I've added the print link that doesn't require registration. It's not as pretty but it doesn't require registration.
That said I didn't need to register for the original article, and I didn't have any cookies set.
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May I post New York Times articles in a newsgroup environment?
Posting a New York Times article in a non-commercial newsgroup environment for the purpose of discussion is permitted only if it is not possible to link to the article on www.nytimes.com. It is not permitted, even in a newsgroup environment, to create an archive of New York Times articles. New York Times articles posted in compliance with this policy must be removed within 30 days, and include the following copyright notice:
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May I post New York Times articles in a newsgroup environment?
Posting a New York Times article in a non-commercial newsgroup environment for the purpose of discussion is permitted only if it is not possible to link to the article on www.nytimes.com. It is not permitted, even in a newsgroup environment, to create an archive of New York Times articles. New York Times articles posted in compliance with this policy must be removed within 30 days, and include the following copyright notice:
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If the discussion group is e-mail based, only the URL may be distributed with a link back to the article on www.nytimes.com. Under no circumstances is e-mail distribution of New York Times articles to discussion groups allowed without permission.
It's possible to link directly to a New York Times article from ehMac, and ehMac archives material for more than thirty days (I think my first post from 2002 is still on here somewhere). Also, where was the copyright notice in your original post?
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