I've been pretty bored with where I work for a long time now so I have been whoring around looking for a new job.
Looks like my lucks in and I'm going to get an offer for a good company. However, I really have just run out of excuses with my present employer to get out of the office. I will need a couple of hours one morning for one last visit. Has any ehmaccers got any good ways of getting out of the office, no questions asked ???
I'm getting married this summer (true)
So I act all stressed and concerned (not far from the truth) and say we're having a few money issues (still not far from the truth) and we're going to see our bank manager about a loan (complete fabrication).
Any guy would completely understand the finacial stresses that come with a wedding.
As I have learned from my teenaged years of lying to my mother, [img]smile.gif[/img] it's best to keep things as simple and invite as few questions as possible. The less you say, the less you trip.
The marriage money issue could work, since most people will not pry into personal financial matters. Though, there may be some potential for follow-up questions: "Good grief, how much IS this wedding costing you?! What are you spending it all on?!"
Similarly, car problems could work well, but if you're absences appear suspicious, then you invite questions "So, what was wrong with your car."
Medical issues are usually fine (especially sudden ones like food poisoning or migraines) but again, if you've been away "sick" a lot lately, you may be raising some questions.
You could try "I have an appointment with a lawyer." Most people won't ask -- legal issues are perceived as private. If they do, you can divert them with:
- "It's really a personal matter." (i.e., Imply you are not comfortable discussing it.)
- "I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be talking about it yet." (i.e., imply that there may be some kind of a legal privacy issue -- this may be a bit overdramatic, though.)
- "Oh, it's just some estate planning/tax-related stuff." (i.e., it's really, really boring and gets into highly personal financial matters.)
With respect, SINC, sometimes it's difficult not to use such ruses when looking for a new job.
Most jobs I've had required 3-4 separate interviews, and it's not always possible to have the interviewers meet you outside working hours. And suddenly having to take a lot of random days or half-days off is not always possible. Plus, those vacation days get used up fast.
As well, if you are trying to be discreet, (particularly important if you are in a bad environment) it becomes very difficult.
I was forced to use similar excuses when I was at my last workplace. That company did not allow us to take vacation time, for any reason, for a period of 3 months. (Long story.) A colleague of mine was planning to take time off to be with his wife when she had their first baby, but that fell within the 3 month period and management cancelled his time off -- not a good enough reason to make an exception.
My direct manager, whom I trusted, knew I was job hunting. (She was looking too.) She would have found ways to work around my interviews, only she was not allowed to let me take time off. So I ended up calling in sick, etc.
I would have preferred being honest and upfront, but my managers' manager had been known to make life very difficult for anyone actively trying to leave the department. I wasn't allowed to take personal time off. The companies I was interviewing with couldn't accommodate interviews outside of working hours.
Not a lot of options left. I suppose I could have quit first and then started job hunting, but I was saving that option for the day that crazy company finally broke me. (Narrow escape, it was.)
An interesting view Sonal, but I repeat, if you are honest and forthwith with the company who is interviewing you for a new position, about your current situation, your chances of being hired will escalate. Any company worth being employed by would admire the fact that you honour your commitment to the former firm and arrange an interview for you after your working hours.
I know because I used to conduct those interviews myself after hours, and I greatly admired prospective employees who were honest about their current bad situation, but wanted to keep their records honest and clean with that firm. Just like I respected those employees who insisted on giving their current employer proper notice of two weeks, no matter how quickly we might want to hire them. Employees that left our firm without giving us proper notice never got a recommendation from us ever again. Your employment history will follow you and come back to bite you when you least expect it.
As sonal says life can be made very difficult at certain companies when it appears you want to leave. At my last company I made it quite clear I was unhappy and was actively looking for a new job...I came very close to being sacked on the spot! We managed to resolve the problems which weren't being addressed but not after a lot of stress. It turned out the company ended up going under about a week after I finally left.
I can see the same sort of problems arising here due to the personality of the owner. When one guy refused to sign up full time and let the owner know of his intention to start his own company....the guy didn't talk to him for a month and gave him a real hard time.
Also, I am professional enough to give my obligatory notice...once my new position has been signed and sealed. I am under no contractoral obligation to do anything more...thinking of which I have signed no contract..so really it is my own professionalism which stops me leaving tomorrow!
The company I am moving to know I have had to lie so I can get time to go and see them.
Thanks for everyone's replys anyway...I think I'm going for the bank manager meeting excuse, at least it based on partial truths (just to keep SINC happy [img]smile.gif[/img] )