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Old Sep 23rd, 2017, 04:15 PM   #131
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Based on what I've seen here, I would put you right down the middle. Left on some, right on others.
And I think you will find that with many people, teachers included....itís the issues that count....and, yes, some issues I may be left leaning others I may be right leaning. You can not generalise and say all teachers are left or right. So again, we are discussing the politics of education via association. A little Paulo Freire would go well now I think.
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Old Sep 23rd, 2017, 06:12 PM   #132
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And I think you will find that with many people, teachers included....itís the issues that count....and, yes, some issues I may be left leaning others I may be right leaning. You can not generalise and say all teachers are left or right. So again, we are discussing the politics of education via association. A little Paulo Freire would go well now I think.
Well said, mon ami. PF would be proud. Paix.
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I'm not interested in what they think as much as what they teach. I have personally viewed leftist scoped classes and instruction at the vast majority of classes with students I know. I find it unlikely that anyone who has a basis in logical conservatism would suddenly lose their mind and then spout leftist dogma in class, but maybe you could convince me that this is how some people operate.


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Old Sep 24th, 2017, 07:29 AM   #134
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I'm not interested in what they think as much as what they teach. I have personally viewed leftist scoped classes and instruction at the vast majority of classes with students I know. I find it unlikely that anyone who has a basis in logical conservatism would suddenly lose their mind and then spout leftist dogma in class, but maybe you could convince me that this is how some people operate.
I would think that someone who has a "basis in logical conservatism" would realize that what he experienced/observed cannot be extrapolated to cover ALL classrooms in North America. Use your logic, mon ami. What you viewed and experienced might have been this way, so your observations are correct. And maybe these observations were of "leftist scoped classes", but it is only your opinion that this is what it was/is like in all other classrooms. Paix.
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Old Sep 24th, 2017, 11:44 AM   #135
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I'm not interested in what they think as much as what they teach. I have personally viewed leftist scoped classes and instruction at the vast majority of classes with students I know. I find it unlikely that anyone who has a basis in logical conservatism would suddenly lose their mind and then spout leftist dogma in class, but maybe you could convince me that this is how some people operate.
Leftist dogma is an interesting phrase. At one time Universal Healthcare, Social Insurance, Unemployed Insurance, and a host of others were considered Leftist, along with universal education for our youth, Health and Safety ...you get the drill. So our current socio-cultural environment, which for the most part is generally accepted as what makes the fabric of being Canadian.....that leftist dogma?
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Leftist dogma is an interesting phrase. At one time Universal Healthcare, Social Insurance, Unemployed Insurance, and a host of others were considered Leftist, along with universal education for our youth, Health and Safety ...you get the drill. So our current socio-cultural environment, which for the most part is generally accepted as what makes the fabric of being Canadian.....that leftist dogma?
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Leftist dogma is an interesting phrase. At one time Universal Healthcare, Social Insurance, Unemployed Insurance, and a host of others were considered Leftist, along with universal education for our youth, Health and Safety ...you get the drill. So our current socio-cultural environment, which for the most part is generally accepted as what makes the fabric of being Canadian.....that leftist dogma?
I agree with the idea of public healthcare and education, but the sensitivity of educators to the claim of being broadly left wing is odd. How many generalizations have you glossed over before focusing on this topic?
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Beej, I think the heart of this current discussion is all about generalisations. The premise stated above was that educators have a left bias and inculcate that bias in their classes.......which I personally believe is blatantly wrong. And, again, it is difficult to discuss education without introducing politics......I had hoped this thread would take a different bent.
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I had hoped this thread would take a different bent.
It didn't. The norm is conversational debate including logical flaws and short cuts. For some reason this topic resulted in the request for strict logical standards. That is notable.
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In the US, political affiliation is easier to track. In 2014, this study found that nationally, colleges and universities had a six to one ratio of liberal to conservative professors. In New England, the figure was 28 to one. If anything, Canada is culturally to the left of the US.

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