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#1 ·
Thought I'd put up a thread to keep track of the pinko commie bastards. ;) (For easy access & future referral...)

Oh, look who Rachel hired to be Chief of Staff for our Energy Minister!

Ezra Levant: Meet Alberta’s new colonial chiefs

A Toronto anti-oilsands activist – still registered as an anti-oil lobbyist – is now running Alberta’s energy department.
What could possibly go wrong?

Not only that, but:

There are twelve ministers in the Alberta cabinet, including Notley herself, each with a chief of staff. And ten of those chiefs are, like Mitchell, NDP activists from other provinces, many of whom will commute each week to Alberta from Vancouver, Toronto, or elsewhere.
M'bold.

Nice. First off, any guesses who foots the travel bill?

Second:

There is something weirdly colonial about non-residents being sent in to run a province to which they have few or no ties. It feels as if the NDP believes Alberta lacks people with talent and judgment to govern themselves. It feels nepotistic – highly paid consolation prizes for failed NDP activists from other campaigns.

Like Nathan Rotman. He worked on Olivia Chow’s unsuccessful campaign for Toronto mayor. Now he’s the chief of staff to Alberta’s Finance Minister.

Was there no-one in Alberta with any financial background? No socially conscious businessman, or even an NDP-friendly professor or think tank economist? Four million Albertans, but not one who understands Alberta’s fiscal situation better than an Olivia Chow door-knocker?
M'bold.

Yep...

Further:

Wildrose charges NDP energy minister's top staffer was anti-pipeline lobbyist

The Wildrose Party says it’s a troubling sign that the NDP energy minister’s top staffer was registered as a federal lobbyist for an organization opposed to pipeline projects proposed to ship Alberta oilsands crude.
 
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#4 ·
Thought I'd put up a thread to keep track of the pinko commie bastards. ;) (For easy access & future referral...)

Oh, look who Rachel hired to be Chief of Staff for our Energy Minister!
Heh... and had you performed the same kinds of analyses on the previous governments' staffers, to see who was aligned with the oil industry / lobbyists / etc. ? Or do you only call out potential bias when it conflicts with your own position on oil-as-godliness ?

We wouldn't want to move into the realm of hypocrisy, now would we?
 
#6 ·
There is little doubt that there are those who are more than qualified, who are indeed Albertans who could easily do a good job for the NDP if hired. Trouble is, the NDP, so far detached from the mainstream of Alberta politics with just a handful of members for dozens of years, simply do not know who they are or who to approach to find them. That leads them to approach only known NDP loyalists from out of province to tell us how to run our own province. This is a political botch job by the NDP which given their inexperience, should not be unexpected. They are a one-shot, one-time 'protest phenomena' in Alberta who methinks will be reduced back to their original ranks come next election.
 
#7 ·
Of course they will be decimated--but they are going to be as destructive as possible during their time in office. Hopefully, Alberta will get a Mike Harris to put things back in order.

They are a one-shot, one-time 'protest phenomena' in Alberta who methinks will be reduced back to their original ranks come next election.
 
#15 ·
The Hey Let's Crap On the Alberta NDP Thread would have been a less disingenuous title. :lmao:
 
#16 ·
:lmao: :lmao:

Where's that dang 'LIKE' button when you need it?
 
#21 ·
Alberta Throne Speech unveils increase in corporate, personal tax - The Globe and Mail

"The NDP campaigned on a pledge to increase the income tax for those making more than $125,000 to 12 per cent, while also adding a second bracket of 15 per cent for those making more than $300,000."

In Nova Scotia, the 15% rate is for those earning $59,180 or less, and 8.79% for those earning $29,590 or less. Once you hit $150,000 the tax rate is 21%.
 
#23 ·
She would be smart to get her ministers to employ AB persons as their chiefs of staff.
 
#27 ·
Jack M. Mintz: Alberta’s bad plays

Yet, many politicians fall into the trap of promising foolish polices during an election if it can garner sufficient support to win. The difficulty comes in facing the music after the election. Either they must slither out of their promises or forge ahead, with potentially bad consequences undermining their popularity and future winability.
Further:

Take the seemingly innocuous corporate tax hike from 10 to 12 per cent. This will increase Alberta’s federal-provincial effective corporate tax rate on non-resource new investments from 17 to 18.6 per cent, making it the fourth highest in Canada and 17th highest of 44 OECD countries. Even hard-pressed Ontario and Quebec will have a more tax-competitive environment for manufacturing, forestry and service sectors than Alberta. I estimate Alberta’s capital stock will decline by $9.2 billion in several years as a result of the corporate tax increase alone. Imagine what royalty hikes and other policies will do in terms of investment and jobs once they are determined.

If the corporate tax hike were to lead to gobbles of new revenue for an Alberta that is busily pumping up promised spending, it might make sense. However, with the disastrous decline in corporate profits and investment, and income-shifting to lower-taxed global jurisdictions, Alberta will raise little revenue. Based on different results from various economics studies on profit-shifting that is easy to financially structure, Alberta will raise somewhere between $50 and $210 million. No wonder most economists argue that corporate taxes are the worse funding source for public services. Little revenue is gained, with a signal to investors to go elsewhere.
M'bold.

Good read.
 
#28 ·
Thought I'd put up a thread to keep track of the pinko commie bastards. ;) (For easy access & future referral...)



Oh, look who Rachel hired to be Chief of Staff for our Energy Minister!



Ezra Levant: Meet Alberta’s new colonial chiefs







What could possibly go wrong?



Not only that, but:







M'bold.



Nice. First off, any guesses who foots the travel bill?



Second:







M'bold.



Yep...



Further:



Wildrose charges NDP energy minister's top staffer was anti-pipeline lobbyist

Should you perhaps have called this the "Alberta NDP Bashing Thread", since your agenda is pretty obvious from word one. I take it this is NOT a discussion or debate thread about the policies of those pinko commie bastards.


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#29 ·
Just to address all the critics out there who think that this is nothing but an NDP bashing thread. Pretty easy to be critical of a thread title but, thus far, ain't been much positive said about the Alberta NDP by all the NDP supporters on these boards. Mostly crickets...

My agenda, if I even have one, is to expose what I perceive as crappy gov't at any & all levels. Provincially, I wasn't happy with Stelmach, Queenie, Prentice, Smith after she changed party policy to pander to the city voters & especially after she crossed the floor and when she stated she believed in AGW, my own MLA for crossing the floor & others. I have voiced those concerns on various threads on these boards over the years.

As we are currently flying the orange flag, it's the NDP that are now under the microscope. I have seen what the NDP have done to the economies of BC, Saskatchewan & Ontario & want no part of that for Alberta. Can a leopard change its spots?

I have little faith in their leader & even less in a number of the MLA's who have little to no experience in governing their own lives, let alone a province. I reserve the right to be pleasantly surprised.

I welcome any attempts by anybody to justify some of the asinine things they have already done. Please, feel free. You can start by defending the appointment of Graham Mitchell, from the OP & the reason I started this thread.

And, to illustrate that it's not all criticism, I do endorse their move to maintain education spending to the end of the agreement period, unlike what the PC's were going to do & freeze spending.

Thus far, it's the only positive for me. Got something positive to say about 'em? This is the thread.

Gonna be a long 4 years...

Should you perhaps have called this the "Alberta NDP Bashing Thread", since your agenda is pretty obvious from word one. I take it this is NOT a discussion or debate thread about the policies of those pinko commie bastards.
 
#31 ·
I've already supported the Alberta NDP's move to end union donations to political parties, so it isn't all bashing--it's just the majority of their decisions that deserve bashing.
 
#51 ·
The news media in Canada is woefully hostile to Harper. I would also limit my appearances, rather than have the CBC oversee an unfairly stacked debate or conduct a hostile interview. However, he PM has been accountable to me, by delivering on some of the promises I expected him to keep.
 
#54 ·
Or to paraphrase Red Cloud, "He made so many promises I cannot remember them all. He kept only one of them. He promised to destroy the Bill of Rights and he did so."
 
#61 ·
Well two months in, the honeymoon is over, but still the sky has not fallen. However, we could use a little more rain.


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#62 ·
Well two months in, the honeymoon is over, but still the sky has not fallen. However, we could use a little more rain.
Yep, and the bad news just keeps coming.

Inexperience is no excuse for just plain stupidity as the Dippers continue to make appointment, after inappropriate appointment:

Brent Dancey, chief of staff, was pardoned for 1993 assault - Edmonton - CBC News

A real premier would step in and stop them before they are made, not keep doing damage control after the fact.
 
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#67 ·
Some of those comments are hilarious. Talk about low-information voters...
 
#72 ·
Man, she looks good in that picture.

Also, Heavyall, you know this is not actual debt yet, right? It's a line of credit.


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#80 ·
So, how are the commies doing? Let's have a look.

Canadian Oil Sands loses $128M in 90 days - $120M were Notley's new taxes

Canadian Oil Sands just issued its quarterly financials. They lost $128 million in the past 90 days, compared to the $176 million profit they made this time last year.

And $120 million of that recent loss -- all but $8 million -- is from the Alberta NDP's new tax increase.
OK, that's not so good. Anything else?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNbNAjcZKeg"]Another oil company posts substantial loss under Alberta NDP[/ame]

Ezra Levant of TheRebel.Media reports on another oil company reporting significant losses, and it's not due to falling oil prices.
Hmmm, anybody see a pattern here?

I guess the point is, if you have an industry that is already on its knees, why kick it when its down?

Related:

Oilsands may have to be left in the ground, says NDP candidate

Linda McQuaig, a star New Democratic Party candidate, says Alberta’s oilsands may need to remain undeveloped in order for Canada to meet its climate change targets.

The NDP candidate for Toronto Centre told Investor Central Network’s Power & Politics there should not be a rush to extract from the oilsands without proper environmental assessments.
I guess we'll just all have to burn unicorn farts, then. By all means, let's vote for the Commies federally, too.

Unbelievable...
 
#82 ·
So, how are the commies doing? Let's have a look.



Canadian Oil Sands loses $128M in 90 days - $120M were Notley's new taxes







OK, that's not so good. Anything else?



[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNbNAjcZKeg"]Another oil company posts substantial loss under Alberta NDP[/ame]







Hmmm, anybody see a pattern here?



I guess the point is, if you have an industry that is already on its knees, why kick it when its down?



Related:



Oilsands may have to be left in the ground, says NDP candidate







I guess we'll just all have to burn unicorn farts, then. By all means, let's vote for the Commies federally, too.



Unbelievable...

You do realize you're mixing up Alberta NDP MLA's with Federal NDP MP's and candidates, yes?


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NDP propaganda very scary, very scary indeed kids Ahooooooooooooooo, Ahoooooooooooo.

Why kids it's as scary as Dr. Tongue's Evil House of Pancakes! Ahooooooooooooo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R3G_beQccA
 
#91 ·
Well since you seem to be not be able to distinguish between provincial and federal politics, here 's a nice T-shirt souvenir for you. Clothing Outerwear Smile Product Neck



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#97 ·
Once again, you're not paying attention.

I'm comparing the similarities between the two, provincial & federal, deliberately. There are very few differences between the policies of the various provincial commies & the federal commies.

As I noted, SS, DP.

Well since you seem to be not be able to distinguish between provincial and federal politics, here 's a nice T-shirt souvenir for you.
 
#98 ·
Watch NDP Alberta MLA Rob Loyola praising Hugo Chavez, rapping against capitalism, visting the big "drills" and calling for a tripling of oil royalty rates as the province's oil industry implodes under Notley:

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.



What a disgrace.
 
#114 ·
Not exactly, MF. If the city were to be able to take a share of the profits from the new arena, that would be more like socialism. As it is, a certain portion of Edmonton taxes are going to support a private business owned by Darryl Katz, who will keep 100% of the profits. Tickets will be ridiculously expensive and parking spaces are rumoured to start at $35. Per event. Thankfully I live in Sherwood Park so my municipal taxes will be unaffected. I do attend concerts in Edmonton however, and I hope Northlands keeps the coliseum open because I do believe capitalism and the competition it creates could mean the two arenas will have to compete for who gets the big acts. Northlands has been good enough for Paul McCartney, BillyJoel and Bruno Mars, and it has much better parking too.


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