The Alberta NDP Thread - Page 4 - ehMac.ca
Facebook
Twitter
YouTube
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Advertise


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 02:38 PM   #31
Honourable Citizen
 
Macfury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto Proper
Posts: 40,919
I've already supported the Alberta NDP's move to end union donations to political parties, so it isn't all bashing--it's just the majority of their decisions that deserve bashing.
__________________
"My life is my own."

Mac Pro 5,1 3.2 GHZ Quad Core; MacBook Pro 1,1; iPhone 4
Macfury is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #32
Honourable Citizen
 
fjnmusic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
Posts: 10,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by FeXL View Post
Just to address all the critics out there who think that this is nothing but an NDP bashing thread. Pretty easy to be critical of a thread title but, thus far, ain't been much positive said about the Alberta NDP by all the NDP supporters on these boards. Mostly crickets...



My agenda, if I even have one, is to expose what I perceive as crappy gov't at any & all levels. Provincially, I wasn't happy with Stelmach, Queenie, Prentice, Smith after she changed party policy to pander to the city voters & especially after she crossed the floor and when she stated she believed in AGW, my own MLA for crossing the floor & others. I have voiced those concerns on various threads on these boards over the years.



As we are currently flying the orange flag, it's the NDP that are now under the microscope. I have seen what the NDP have done to the economies of BC, Saskatchewan & Ontario & want no part of that for Alberta. Can a leopard change its spots?



I have little faith in their leader & even less in a number of the MLA's who have little to no experience in governing their own lives, let alone a province. I reserve the right to be pleasantly surprised.



I welcome any attempts by anybody to justify some of the asinine things they have already done. Please, feel free. You can start by defending the appointment of Graham Mitchell, from the OP & the reason I started this thread.



And, to illustrate that it's not all criticism, I do endorse their move to maintain education spending to the end of the agreement period, unlike what the PC's were going to do & freeze spending.



Thus far, it's the only positive for me. Got something positive to say about 'em? This is the thread.



Gonna be a long 4 years...

Can a leopard change its spots? It's not the same leopard. Might even be a cougar.

As a teacher who has seen the damage inflicted, especially morale-wise, but successive self-serving PC governments in this province, I welcome the change. Will the NDP be great after four years? Hard to say, but they couldn't be much worse than the robber barons that have been running the place since I was 6 years old. Under Lougheed there was hope, which eventually become entitlement. Anyhoo, I don't think it's going to be a mere 4 years. The PC's are done in this province, and Alberta tends to favor establishing long-serving gov'ts over transitional ones.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
"I am disappointed and deeply concerned that there is no objective evidence to support my position. So far."
- Spock 

His: Intel iMac 20" 2.16 / Macbook 2.1 GHz / 8GB iPod Nano / 2GB iPod Nano / iPod Touch / iPhone 3GS / iPhone 4S
Hers: Macbook 2.1 GHz / 4GB iPod Nano / iPhone 4
Kid 1: 4GB iPod Nano / iPad 16WiFi
Kid 2: 4GB iPod Nano/ iPad 16WiFi
Family: iPod Touch / Apple Extreme Router 802.11n / Two Apple Express's w/Airtunes /Two Apple TV's 40GB / Apple TV 2
fjnmusic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 06:18 PM   #33
Honourable Citizen
 
fjnmusic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
Posts: 10,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by SINC View Post
You gotta stop taking things so personal Frank, you wear your allegiances on your sleeve.



I speak from experience as I had the misfortune to live through two NDP governments in two different provinces and watched the dunderheads destroy the economy of both provinces.



I have little doubt they willl do the same to Alberta and their minimum wage policy is the beginning of the end.



See how happy you are with your chosen amateurs in four years when you and all Albertans will have suffered enough to toss them out as quickly as 'Albertans in a hissy fit' put them in.



The election was no show of support for the pinkos, it was a direct kick in the ass for the PCs and nothing more that we will surely live to regret.

"Some say the glass is half-empty, some say the glass is half-full. I say the glass is too big." – George Carlin


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
"I am disappointed and deeply concerned that there is no objective evidence to support my position. So far."
- Spock 

His: Intel iMac 20" 2.16 / Macbook 2.1 GHz / 8GB iPod Nano / 2GB iPod Nano / iPod Touch / iPhone 3GS / iPhone 4S
Hers: Macbook 2.1 GHz / 4GB iPod Nano / iPhone 4
Kid 1: 4GB iPod Nano / iPad 16WiFi
Kid 2: 4GB iPod Nano/ iPad 16WiFi
Family: iPod Touch / Apple Extreme Router 802.11n / Two Apple Express's w/Airtunes /Two Apple TV's 40GB / Apple TV 2
fjnmusic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 06:30 PM   #34
Honourable Citizen
 
Macfury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto Proper
Posts: 40,919
Quote:
Originally Posted by fjnmusic View Post
The PC's are done in this province...
Seriously?
__________________
"My life is my own."

Mac Pro 5,1 3.2 GHZ Quad Core; MacBook Pro 1,1; iPhone 4
Macfury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #35
Honourable Citizen
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: S. Alberta
Posts: 19,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by fjnmusic View Post
Can a leopard change its spots? It's not the same leopard. Might even be a cougar.
<snort> That's funny. I like that. Especially in light of how many "foreign" chiefs of staff are being imported from outside Alberta? From provinces with NDP history? SSDP...

Quote:
Originally Posted by fjnmusic View Post
As a teacher who has seen the damage inflicted, especially morale-wise, but successive self-serving PC governments in this province, I welcome the change. Will the NDP be great after four years? Hard to say, but they couldn't be much worse than the robber barons that have been running the place since I was 6 years old.
I disagree. It could be much worse & I predict that it will. Education & Health Care will be two topics that are kept in a positive light, largely because most of us can relate to them. However, it will be on the backs of taxpayers to finance the spending spree.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fjnmusic View Post
Under Lougheed there was hope, which eventually become entitlement. Anyhoo, I don't think it's going to be a mere 4 years. The PC's are done in this province, and Alberta tends to favor establishing long-serving gov'ts over transitional ones.
I didn't mind Ralph, either. Even towards the end I felt hope. Since then, not so much.

I agree, the PC's are done. Long overdue, deservedly so & brought upon themselves.

I'm not convinced that the NDP will be here for more than one term, however. They have no experience at running the province, many of them are young & have no managerial knowledge or experience whatsoever. Some of them have never even held a real job. Some how they need to rise to the occasion, some of them need to grow up, all need to learn how to do their job & execute it in a fashion that gets them re-elected, all in less than four years time. Tall order.

I believe that the NDP decision to push the budget announcement back to this fall is at least partly related to the timing of the federal election & they don't want to announce anything which may "upset" Mulcair's apple cart.
__________________
Just a meat eating, mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, Harley riding deplorable troglodyte peoplekind, back from a better place...

“Have no respect whatsoever for authority; forget who said it and instead look what he starts with, where he ends up, and ask yourself, is it reasonable?” —Richard Feynman

“Charm and nothing but charm at last grows a little tiresome...It's a relief then to deal with a man who isn't quite so delightful but a little more sincere.” — W. Somerset Maugham
FeXL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 06:49 PM   #36
Honourable Citizen
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: S. Alberta
Posts: 19,933
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfury View Post
Seriously?
I agree. I think they are. They carry the stink of this past election like a herd of skunks. Without massive reformation & fresh branding, they're toast. Wildrose needs to step up, take advantage of the PC's weakness & prove they're the only credible alternative on the right.
__________________
Just a meat eating, mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, Harley riding deplorable troglodyte peoplekind, back from a better place...

“Have no respect whatsoever for authority; forget who said it and instead look what he starts with, where he ends up, and ask yourself, is it reasonable?” —Richard Feynman

“Charm and nothing but charm at last grows a little tiresome...It's a relief then to deal with a man who isn't quite so delightful but a little more sincere.” — W. Somerset Maugham
FeXL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 07:46 PM   #37
Honourable Citizen
 
fjnmusic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
Posts: 10,314
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macfury View Post
Seriously?

Yup. Count 'em. Even their great leader threw in the towel before the election was even over!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
"I am disappointed and deeply concerned that there is no objective evidence to support my position. So far."
- Spock 

His: Intel iMac 20" 2.16 / Macbook 2.1 GHz / 8GB iPod Nano / 2GB iPod Nano / iPod Touch / iPhone 3GS / iPhone 4S
Hers: Macbook 2.1 GHz / 4GB iPod Nano / iPhone 4
Kid 1: 4GB iPod Nano / iPad 16WiFi
Kid 2: 4GB iPod Nano/ iPad 16WiFi
Family: iPod Touch / Apple Extreme Router 802.11n / Two Apple Express's w/Airtunes /Two Apple TV's 40GB / Apple TV 2
fjnmusic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 19th, 2015, 11:11 PM   #38
Honourable Citizen
 
Macfury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto Proper
Posts: 40,919
Many would have thought the same thing following the Kim Campbell rout.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fjnmusic View Post
Yup. Count 'em. Even their great leader threw in the towel before the election was even over!
__________________
"My life is my own."

Mac Pro 5,1 3.2 GHZ Quad Core; MacBook Pro 1,1; iPhone 4
Macfury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 20th, 2015, 12:02 AM   #39
Honourable Citizen
 
screature's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Aylmer (Gatineau) across the river from Ottawa
Posts: 20,720
Quote:
Originally Posted by fjnmusic View Post
... The PC's are done in this province...
You are dreaming in Technicolor.
screature is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 20th, 2015, 12:05 AM   #40
Honourable Citizen
 
screature's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Aylmer (Gatineau) across the river from Ottawa
Posts: 20,720
duplicate.
screature is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Canadians Don't Want Iggy: Poll SINC Everything Else, eh! 384 Mar 5th, 2011 06:06 PM
Disappointed with my G5 Quad (poor Xbench)??? Haven2020 Mac, iPhone, iPad and iPod Help & Troubleshooting 18 Jul 20th, 2007 08:56 PM
Mod Log Chealion Info Centre 7 May 25th, 2006 01:18 PM
Vexel's Intel iMac thread Vexel Anything Mac 54 Mar 30th, 2006 10:38 PM
P4 vs G5 vs G3 jfpoole Anything Mac 41 Jan 12th, 2006 03:55 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:04 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 1999 - 2012, ehMac.ca All rights reserved. ehMac is not affiliated with Apple Inc. Mac, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, Apple TV are trademarks of Apple Inc. Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2

Tribe.ca: Urban living in Toronto!