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Macfury Jun 19th, 2015 03:38 PM

I've already supported the Alberta NDP's move to end union donations to political parties, so it isn't all bashing--it's just the majority of their decisions that deserve bashing.

fjnmusic Jun 19th, 2015 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FeXL (Post 1982353)
Just to address all the critics out there who think that this is nothing but an NDP bashing thread. Pretty easy to be critical of a thread title but, thus far, ain't been much positive said about the Alberta NDP by all the NDP supporters on these boards. Mostly crickets...



My agenda, if I even have one, is to expose what I perceive as crappy gov't at any & all levels. Provincially, I wasn't happy with Stelmach, Queenie, Prentice, Smith after she changed party policy to pander to the city voters & especially after she crossed the floor and when she stated she believed in AGW, my own MLA for crossing the floor & others. I have voiced those concerns on various threads on these boards over the years.



As we are currently flying the orange flag, it's the NDP that are now under the microscope. I have seen what the NDP have done to the economies of BC, Saskatchewan & Ontario & want no part of that for Alberta. Can a leopard change its spots?



I have little faith in their leader & even less in a number of the MLA's who have little to no experience in governing their own lives, let alone a province. I reserve the right to be pleasantly surprised.



I welcome any attempts by anybody to justify some of the asinine things they have already done. Please, feel free. You can start by defending the appointment of Graham Mitchell, from the OP & the reason I started this thread.



And, to illustrate that it's not all criticism, I do endorse their move to maintain education spending to the end of the agreement period, unlike what the PC's were going to do & freeze spending.



Thus far, it's the only positive for me. Got something positive to say about 'em? This is the thread.



Gonna be a long 4 years...


Can a leopard change its spots? It's not the same leopard. Might even be a cougar.

As a teacher who has seen the damage inflicted, especially morale-wise, but successive self-serving PC governments in this province, I welcome the change. Will the NDP be great after four years? Hard to say, but they couldn't be much worse than the robber barons that have been running the place since I was 6 years old. Under Lougheed there was hope, which eventually become entitlement. Anyhoo, I don't think it's going to be a mere 4 years. The PC's are done in this province, and Alberta tends to favor establishing long-serving gov'ts over transitional ones.


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fjnmusic Jun 19th, 2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SINC (Post 1982369)
You gotta stop taking things so personal Frank, you wear your allegiances on your sleeve.



I speak from experience as I had the misfortune to live through two NDP governments in two different provinces and watched the dunderheads destroy the economy of both provinces.



I have little doubt they willl do the same to Alberta and their minimum wage policy is the beginning of the end.



See how happy you are with your chosen amateurs in four years when you and all Albertans will have suffered enough to toss them out as quickly as 'Albertans in a hissy fit' put them in.



The election was no show of support for the pinkos, it was a direct kick in the ass for the PCs and nothing more that we will surely live to regret.


"Some say the glass is half-empty, some say the glass is half-full. I say the glass is too big." – George Carlin


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Macfury Jun 19th, 2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fjnmusic (Post 1982681)
The PC's are done in this province...

Seriously?

FeXL Jun 19th, 2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fjnmusic (Post 1982681)
Can a leopard change its spots? It's not the same leopard. Might even be a cougar.

<snort> That's funny. I like that. Especially in light of how many "foreign" chiefs of staff are being imported from outside Alberta? From provinces with NDP history? SSDP...

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Originally Posted by fjnmusic (Post 1982681)
As a teacher who has seen the damage inflicted, especially morale-wise, but successive self-serving PC governments in this province, I welcome the change. Will the NDP be great after four years? Hard to say, but they couldn't be much worse than the robber barons that have been running the place since I was 6 years old.

I disagree. It could be much worse & I predict that it will. Education & Health Care will be two topics that are kept in a positive light, largely because most of us can relate to them. However, it will be on the backs of taxpayers to finance the spending spree.

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Originally Posted by fjnmusic (Post 1982681)
Under Lougheed there was hope, which eventually become entitlement. Anyhoo, I don't think it's going to be a mere 4 years. The PC's are done in this province, and Alberta tends to favor establishing long-serving gov'ts over transitional ones.

I didn't mind Ralph, either. Even towards the end I felt hope. Since then, not so much.

I agree, the PC's are done. Long overdue, deservedly so & brought upon themselves.

I'm not convinced that the NDP will be here for more than one term, however. They have no experience at running the province, many of them are young & have no managerial knowledge or experience whatsoever. Some of them have never even held a real job. Some how they need to rise to the occasion, some of them need to grow up, all need to learn how to do their job & execute it in a fashion that gets them re-elected, all in less than four years time. Tall order.

I believe that the NDP decision to push the budget announcement back to this fall is at least partly related to the timing of the federal election & they don't want to announce anything which may "upset" Mulcair's apple cart.

FeXL Jun 19th, 2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfury (Post 1982705)
Seriously?

I agree. I think they are. They carry the stink of this past election like a herd of skunks. Without massive reformation & fresh branding, they're toast. Wildrose needs to step up, take advantage of the PC's weakness & prove they're the only credible alternative on the right.

fjnmusic Jun 19th, 2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfury (Post 1982705)
Seriously?


Yup. Count 'em. Even their great leader threw in the towel before the election was even over!


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Macfury Jun 20th, 2015 12:11 AM

Many would have thought the same thing following the Kim Campbell rout.

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Originally Posted by fjnmusic (Post 1982745)
Yup. Count 'em. Even their great leader threw in the towel before the election was even over!


screature Jun 20th, 2015 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fjnmusic (Post 1982681)
... The PC's are done in this province...

You are dreaming in Technicolor.

screature Jun 20th, 2015 01:05 AM

duplicate. :o


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