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Old Feb 9th, 2015, 07:26 PM   #41
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FeXL is saying that Google may be pushing the acronym down deliberately.
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Old Feb 9th, 2015, 09:11 PM   #42
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Actually in terms of numbers, it pretty much does.
Only if you care what Google says. I don't. I find everything I need on DDG & have done so for years. And, my search results are not tainted by my browsing history with them. Further, I don't have ads splashed all over the place derived, again, from my browsing history.

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So while the blogs that you refer to may or may not speak the "truth" until they become much better at communications and SEO practices (I will let you search that one for yourself, it should come up either number one or three in your browser, depending) they will forever be on the fringes.
I don't know if they speak the truth or not. What I do know is that much of what they say resonates with me & that is why I peruse them daily. I'm not trying to convince anyone to go to any of them. Feel free or not, as you wish. I don't care. I do know that the readership of all three is increasing, despite the fact that you couldn't find a connection between them & "MSM" in your search engine. And, having a business website of my own, I'm quite familiar with the term SEO, thankyouverymuch.

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By all means try and convince us here at ehMac (a dying Forum) to go to these fringe blogs.

But if you really want their voice to be heard tell them to get on board with 21st century communications.

There is little point in speaking if there is no one there to hear what you have to say. Sadly this place is becoming a location for that more and more all the time.
Screature, I'm not selling anything. I don't care. I merely gave you three examples of blogs that use the term MSM at least semi-regularly. I don't need to be preached at because the mighty Google failed to find them...

You're wound up like a mainspring in a clock. Go have a nice craft beer & relax.
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Old Feb 10th, 2015, 11:37 AM   #43
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Another...fallacy...exposed.

Another Brian Williams Fantasy Tale Exposed: “There were Katyusha rockets passing just underneath the helicopter I was riding in”

Steyn roasts him in "The Life of Brian".

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Danger is his middle name. It used to be Dan Rather's middle name, but Brian bought it at Dan's yard sale a few years back. The "rounds coming into the airframe" is also a nice touch. He knows the lingo. He's way better than Billy Crystal's creative-writing student pitching her submarine drama in Throw Momma From The Train
M'bold.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Old Feb 10th, 2015, 11:45 AM   #44
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Where I'm at, for at least a couple of reasons.

Why Mocking Brian Williams Is Good for Democracy

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It’s not just fun to mock Brian Williams, it performs a truly useful service. It’s good for reporting and it’s good for democracy, too.
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Holding reporters accountable helps democracy function better because we need reliable information to make choices about candidates and issues. The better the information and the more diverse the sources, the better we can perform our tasks as citizens and voters. That’s why freedom of the press and speech are essential to democracies and why our First Amendment guarantees them.

Solid, honest reporting is the only way we can get the information we need.

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But whatever the stories, we expect them to be truthful. It shouldn’t matter whether MSNBC, Fox News, or the National Enquirer says the Department of Labor reports this month’s unemployment is 5.8%. That should be the number.
M'bold.

BINGO!!!!!

As for Williams?

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He should not be put on “temporary leave” and quietly eased out. He should be publicly fired for cause. The problem is not just that he harmed the “NBC brand,” though he surely did. The problem is that he violated a reporter’s basic responsibility to tell the truth.
Couldn't have put it clearer myself.

Excellent read.

PS Further on the MSM acronym. It's one I've used a number of times on this blog myself.
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Old Feb 10th, 2015, 12:18 PM   #45
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I think that Williams inability to separate fact from fiction, says a lot about the propagandistic nature of the entire lame stream media. They have been lying so frequently it has become their new normal.

It's truly sad when the reporters and politicians have become so similar, that behaviour typical of a politician does not result in the instant firing of a reporter.
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Old Feb 11th, 2015, 12:16 AM   #46
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FeXL is saying that Google may be pushing the acronym down deliberately.
I understand that.

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Old Feb 11th, 2015, 01:04 AM   #47
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Only if you care what Google says. I don't. I find everything I need on DDG & have done so for years. And, my search results are not tainted by my browsing history with them. Further, I don't have ads splashed all over the place derived, again, from my browsing history.



I don't know if they speak the truth or not. What I do know is that much of what they say resonates with me & that is why I peruse them daily. I'm not trying to convince anyone to go to any of them. Feel free or not, as you wish. I don't care. I do know that the readership of all three is increasing, despite the fact that you couldn't find a connection between them & "MSM" in your search engine. And, having a business website of my own, I'm quite familiar with the term SEO, thankyouverymuch.

Screature, I'm not selling anything. I don't care. I merely gave you three examples of blogs that use the term MSM at least semi-regularly. I don't need to be preached at because the mighty Google failed to find them...

You're wound up like a mainspring in a clock. Go have a nice craft beer & relax.
Didn't mean to offend in any way. My post had nothing to do with you or your abilities at SEO. I was only saying that if you appreciate the blogs that you referred to they could do better SEO as they rank very poorly.

Sorry you misunderstood and sorry I wasn't in the know as to what MSM refers to/means to some people.

But, IMO, being found on Google does matter for the majority. If it doesn't for you or the blogs that you refer to, fine... great actually.

We live in different worlds it seems and I mean that sincerely, not facetiously. My world is dominated by politics so being the first hit on Google matters a whole lot. It is just a reality whether you or I like it or not when you want to communicate with the "masses".

Actually I am not, my blood pressure is really good right now. 118/81 and HR 74, last I checked, because I am supposed to know and keep a record.

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Old Feb 11th, 2015, 10:41 AM   #48
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Trust Job Stewart to sum it up the best:
Jon Stewart's exit as a phony newsman is a loss to real news - seattlepi.com
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Wearing a woeful expression, he summed up everyone's befuddlement with crystalline efficiency: "Bri! Why? Why, Bri? Why lie? Sigh."

By then hours upon hours of pontificating, grousing and hollow forecasts from other corners of the media had been focused on Williams, nailed a few days earlier for apparently fudging an account of his experience a decade ago covering the war in Iraq: He seemed to have misremembered that he wasn't, as he had declared repeatedly, shot out of the sky in a military helicopter.

Choppergate seemed custom-made for the cable-news universe. The endless talk supported by few known facts and snap-judgment calls for his dismissal — Off with his (talking) head! — accomplished little.

By contrast, in the tidy eight minutes or so that followed Stewart's silly rhyme, he proposed a shrewd diagnosis for what might have led Williams to muddle his Serious News cred with habitual visits to any talk show (including, of course, "The Daily Show") that would have him, where he could show off his charm as a wit and raconteur.

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Infotainment Confusion Syndrome, a brain misfire that occurs, he said, "when the 'celebrity cortex' gets its wires crossed with the 'medulla anchor-gata.'"

Stewart had one more point to make. He mocked the mediaverse for obsessing over Williams' alleged misdeeds: "Finally SOMEONE is being held to account for misleading America about the Iraq war."

"Never again," he added dramatically, "will Brian Williams mislead this great nation about being shot at in a war we probably wouldn't have ended up in, if the media had applied this level of scrutiny to the actual (bleep) war."
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Old Feb 11th, 2015, 10:45 AM   #49
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Didn't mean to offend in any way.
You haven't. All is fine.
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The media never scrutinized the Iraq War because it was originally called for by a Democrat.
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