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On Sarah Palin's Impressively Incoherent 'Duck Dynasty' Comments

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On Sarah Palin's Impressively Incoherent 'Duck Dynasty' Comments | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone
Sarah Palin, ably staying in character in her new role as a professional media ambulance-chaser, was one of the first to rush to Robertson's defense. She posted a photo of herself with the Robertsons and tweeted the following:

Free speech is endangered species; those "intolerants" hatin' & taking on Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing personal opinion take on us all
Phil Robertson from the original GQ piece Duck Dynasty's Phil Robertson Gives Drew Magary a Tour
It seems like, to me, a vagina – as a man – would be more desirable than a man's anus. That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes . . . But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical.
 
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It is an axe towards religious freedom and free speech, I don't agree with comments but, seems that special interest groups are beginning to run the world.
Playing devils advocate.
What if straight allance group complained about pro same sex views, would A&E take the same approach ?
Again not saying I agree with Phil's comments just playing devils advocate for freedom of speech and religious freedom. That is what I am attempting to debate.
 
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and A&E has their free speech rights as well and it is their station, so if they don't like his comments it is their right to kick them off. Same as if you had a tv show on some bible thumping channel and came out and said "god is not real", you would be fired. Do I think he should be fired, no. A&E has a show about ******** what do you think their belief is? i am sure he has said worse and it has been edited out, just now he said it to someone else.
 
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Does anybody think that Phil Robertson gives a flying...fig...what A&E has to say about him? Or anybody else, for that matter?

It wouldn't even surprise me to find out that he had scripted the response in order to get the shoe. He's a no-nonsense, well-grounded individual who simply tired of the camera in his face all the time. He's 65 years old & a millionaire several times over. What can A&E possibly give him he doesn't already have in spades?

Good on Phil.
 
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Perfect. Love it.

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It's nice to see that the US has the same free speech policy as N Korea.
Amurkans love to boast about freedom of speech…unless it is speech with which you do not agree.
these are silly comments. no one is arresting or charging him with a crime. he is allowed to say whatever he wants.

but freedom of speech is a 2 way street, so others are free to voice there opposition to what he said, and voice their displeasure to the broadcaster who has given him a platform to become a celebrity.

i don't have a problem with people expressing their disappointment at his comments (they were stupid and backwards), but I'm not crazy about how people always seem to have to leave or get fired or "go away" after they say these sort of things.

yet i see them both as the extreme ends of free speech. someone is free to say some real stupid and vile crap, and others are free to pressure his employers and sponsors to dump him.
 
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Amurkans love to boast about freedom of speech…unless it is speech with which you do not agree. If I understand correctly, there's enough episodes already filmed for the next year and a half. If A&E really had balls on this they would yank the show entirely. But no, this show is a real moneymaker, so they will continue to promote it despite the objections to Phil Robertsons's comments. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

By the way, this is the cool shirt I bought a couple weeks back. No damn way I'm not wearing it now. Not that I'm taking sides; I just like the shirt. And the show.
 

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This fellow is pretty emphatic in his opinion of the Duck Dynasty controversy.... (NSFW or Children)
I listened to this guy for as long as I could, about 2 minutes.

Wanted to comment on one thing I watched up to that point: Just because you are rich does not automatically qualify you as greedy...
 
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This is what I have said all along.. special interest groups are allowed to spew their agenda and beliefs. but if some group outside of the agenda - they get labelled [ anti gay, race haters or bigots etc.. - just using that as examples. ]

Lets hope A&E gets educated for their mistake for choosing sides... a network should always be neutral!!!!! they can not take sides..

you can not be pro gay or just pro straight, you have to be fair to both sides as a network..unless Phil, killed someone or drove drunk or possibly is saying you should tar and feather people. etc - they need to be neutral..
and of course CNN is offering their stupidity during this whole situation.. :roll eyes:

but then again.. there is always honey boo boo - which I believe describes America to a T LOL
 
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Just out of curiosity if those who are defending this bozo would be doing the same if he said that black people are inferior to white people? If he pushed for segregation and was anti-interracial marriage?

Would the network still be "wrong" to dump him then? Would they have to remain "neutral"? Do you think they would have to give equal time to the KKK and the NAACP to be "fair"?

Should the discovery network give equal time to intelligent design as they do to evolution? just to be fair & neutral?

It's a preposterous notion.
 
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Just out of curiosity if those who are defending this bozo would be doing the same if he said that black people are inferior to white people?
Could you please clarify exactly what part of his statement you have issues with?
 
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First off let me say that I defend the rights of idiots to say stupid stuff. So he should have (and does) the legal right to say this nonsense.

If you're asking what I find to be the worst of his remarks I'd say this:

"But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man."

"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and those men ... they won't inherit the kingdom of God. It's not right."
It's also come to light that in the past he said this:

“Women with women. Men with men,They committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions."
“They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God-haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are truthless. They invent ways of doing evil.”
So while I agree he certainly has the right to say this stuff I have zero problem with people calling him out for saying it. And anyone who would be surprised that networks or sponsors would want to distance themselves from these comments is clueless of how our society works.
 
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First off let me say that I defend the rights of idiots to say stupid stuff. So he should have (and does) the legal right to say this nonsense.

If you're asking what I find to be the worst of his remarks I'd say this:



It's also come to light that in the past he said this:



So while I agree he certainly has the right to say this stuff I have zero problem with people calling him out for saying it. And anyone who would be surprised that networks or sponsors would want to distance themselves from these comments is clueless of how our society works.
seems that when Tiger woods was having an affair, they bailed but they knew that if Bill Clinton can receive oral gratification in the White House so can Tiger Woods on the Greens and they came back twice as strong..
Sponsors / Networks THINK they can force what is moral and not, but in the end they can't. It will be the people who decide.. I think A&E made a mistake.. GUNS, Religion, Speech are the 3 biggest morals Americans believe in - right or wrong.
 
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North Korea doesn't use machine guns to silence people.
Nobody on this thread has typed those words, save you. (Nice edit, BTW, but I already quoted the salient part and have a screenshot. It also changes nothing in your falsification & merely confirms the fact.)

Just further confirmation that you are a serial liar and will twist people's words into whatever you want them to sound like. Is that merely the progressive coming out in you or some deeper, more insidious issue?

Why don't you restrict yourself to other fora where you can lie & swear all you want without offending anyone? In the mean time, if you plan to hang around here, seek professional help...
 
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Many can't seem to get their head around the concept that recognizing someone's actions as sinful doesn't automatically equate to hating them (Westboro Baptists the exception). I don't approve of my friends promiscuity, its clearly a sin, but I love him just the same. This BS that recognizing behaviour as sinful=hate is rather tiring but I understand the value it has to shut down debate or criticism to tar the person as a bigot or hater. However this often has no basis in reality.

I think where people really get their back up with this situation is the fact that they can see how this could easily be them. If Phil can be fired from his job for holding his personal Christian views of sexual morality, then all believers are vulnerable to the PC thought police.

I share his bewilderment how a man could be sexually attracted to another man. Hate to think some gay lobby group could hunt down my employers and demand I be fired for having the thought or expressing it when my treatment of homosexual people is no different than anyone else.
 
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I understand your point MacGuiver, to a degree. I don't think anyone thinks it's wrong to say you either don't understand or disagree with homosexuality, I certainly don't, you're free to believe what you wish, at least in my opinion.

I think though, it largely depends on how, you express your opinion. If you start comparing homosexuality with say bestiality, and as we've seen before, people comparing it to pedophelia, you have crossed the line into inciting hatred. Simply disagreeing, and believing it a sin, doesn't cross that line, at least in my opinion.

By people saying this guy's right to free speech has been infringed upon, they have invalidated A&E's right, to express theirs. A&E have from what I've seen, not said he can't say what he thinks, just, we disagree and he'll have to go elsewhere if wishes to express said beliefs.

It's really, a pretty simple thing here in my opinion.
 
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I'm not smart enough to know if it's as it should. But I do know that it's going to be as it will.
 
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I appreciate the link to the I Am Second interview. There's a lot to learn from this man. He is more tolerant, articulate and wise than many people might realize. I do not agree with him about sexuality, but I defend his right to express himself. I do not personally understand homosexuality either, but I will defend people's rights to gay marriage. I think divorce has a much greater impact on the sanctity of marriage and especially on stability for the children, though it is necessary sometimes.

"The freedom of speech which demands protection is the freedom of speech with which you do not agree." – Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.


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There's no uproar, groove. Not a single member of the family has said that A&E did wrong, anywhere.

You, the forum liar, are the only one trying to turn this into something it's not.

Go back to MD or Reddit and sooth yourself...
 
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gotta love forums!

What was it in the message that you disagreed with macfury?

The press has turned this into quite the uproar it seems, as the image said, it's really all pretty simple. The "Duck" family is free to do and say what they wish (and I have no doubt they will...) and, so is A&E.
 
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It's a pretty funny show. If you've never seen it, perhaps you should watch an episode sometime. Better than having an uniformed opinion. I say this to nobody in particular and everyone who has expressed an opinion on this thread.
 
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