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Old Jul 11th, 2013, 06:09 AM   #31
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The buck doesn't stop at the PM, (or MP) because, well they're conservative.



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Old Jul 11th, 2013, 06:22 AM   #32
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The buck doesn't stop at the PM, (or MP) because, well they're conservative.
In my world, the 'boss' takes ultimate responsibility for the actions of their 'employees'.

Especially when the employees are busy remaking 'the company' into the boss's image...

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Old Jul 11th, 2013, 06:24 AM   #33
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no but the unions will blame the owners for not paying him enough to work faster and more responsibly, or he had to much responsibility LOL
Yuck yuck yuck.

Take a potshot at the union! Good one!

Yuck yuck yuck.

Oh, btw, it's too much responsibility, not to.
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Old Jul 11th, 2013, 06:34 AM   #34
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In my world, the 'boss' takes ultimate responsibility for the actions of their 'employees'.

Especially when the employees are busy remaking 'the company' into the bosses image...
The excuse and blame machine has been in full power for some time now. But I think Canadians are beginning to get wise to this.

You can only blame staffers for so long before people don't want to be taken for a ride anymore.



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Old Jul 11th, 2013, 06:35 AM   #35
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Yuck yuck yuck.

Take a potshot at the union! Good one!

Yuck yuck yuck.

Oh, btw, it's too much responsibility, not to.
was it somehow missed that Transport Canada allowed only one engineer?



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was it somehow missed that Transport Canada allowed only one engineer?
The issue isn't that a single engineer was approved by TC. The issue is that there was no one on board the train in the absence of the single engineer.
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Old Jul 11th, 2013, 09:46 AM   #37
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The excuse and blame machine has been in full power for some time now. But I think Canadians are beginning to get wise to this.

You can only blame staffers for so long before people don't want to be taken for a ride anymore.
Do you have something salient to add to the conversation or are you content to just troll all day?
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The issue isn't that a single engineer was approved by TC. The issue is that there was no one on board the train in the absence of the single engineer.
More specifically the engineer failed to properly set and test handbrakes. Since the train was seemingly parked on the mainline I doubt there were any derails nearby, but even a single layer of redundancy would have prevented this tragedy.

A second engineer would have made a big difference in the time required to set enough handbrakes to hold the train secure on what must of been a fairly long continuous grade.

What I have found most disturbing is that corporate management spent nearly a week trying to shift/dodge the blame before placing it right where it belonged all along.
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More specifically the engineer failed to properly set and test handbrakes. Since the train was seemingly parked on the mainline I doubt there were any derails nearby, but even a single layer of redundancy would have prevented this tragedy.

A second engineer would have made a big difference in the time required to set enough handbrakes to hold the train secure on what must of been a fairly long continuous grade.

What I have found most disturbing is that corporate management spent nearly a week trying to shift/dodge the blame before and placing it right where it belonged all along.
A second engineer could very well have made a huge difference, certainly to the poor souls (and their families) who were burned alive or vaporized.

Horrible.



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Lac Megantic: Railway's history of cost-cutting | Toronto Star

There's an interesting read. It makes one wonder about this whole idea of less regulation, corporations doing the right thing, blah blah.



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