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Old Dec 14th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #21
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Leading cause of death for children in 2012:

Abortion = 1.2 million

CDC puts gun related deaths at fewer than 2,000 in 2005--however, they include people up to 19 years old.

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Old Dec 14th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #22
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Leading cause of death for children in 2012:

Abortion = 1.2 million

CDC puts gun related deaths at fewer than 2,000 in 2005--however, they include people up to 19 years old.

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Well from fewer than 2,000 in 2005 to more than 5,000 in 2010 or 2011, that is a big jump an not in a good way.

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The Center also reports that the number of firearm deaths of kids younger than 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in the next 25 industrialized countries combined.
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Old Dec 14th, 2012, 05:29 PM   #23
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Well from fewer than 2,000 in 2005 to more than 5,000 in 2010 or 2011, that is a big jump an not in a good way.

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I'm not going to downplay child dwaths, but they don't appear to be comparing the same things. They add in 19-year-olds who I believe constitute more than half of the deaths.
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BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND (COAS)....

I wondered how Fox News would cover this... and found this "gem". Turned my stomach in record time...

Why does God allow evil? | Fox News Video

Watching these guys dance around the issue would have been funny under different circumstances. And that Johnny fella... somebody should clue him in that his default facial expression here is seriously inappropriate. Sickening.
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Old Dec 14th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #25
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I wondered how Fox News would cover this... and found this "gem". Turned my stomach in record time...

Why does God allow evil? | Fox News Video

Watching these guys dance around the issue would have been funny under different circumstances. And that Johnny fella... somebody should clue him in that his default facial expression here is seriously inappropriate. Sickening.
Ya generally don't watch that channel.
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Old Dec 14th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #26
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Guns used in Connecticut school rampage were legally purchased and registered to the suspected shooter's mother, law enforcement officials told NBC News.
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The suspected shooter, Adam Lanza, is autistic, or has aspergers syndrome and a “personality disorder,” his elder brother Ryan Lanza told authorities, ABC reports.
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see below, and you are looking at school shootings my comments weren't towards school shootings, it was toward someone who is going to commit suicide, they want to take someone else out as well either out of anger of for some other stupid reason.
Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the USA, and the 3rd leading cause of death among young people.

Most of them aren't taking out someone else when they go. If they did, then the homicide rate would be a lot higher.... CDC has it at about half the suicide rate, and not all homicides are part of a murder-suicide scenario.

To be honest, I don't think committing suicide means you are crazy. Certainly, there's a link between mental disorders and suicide, but if you believe your life is terrible, it's a rational to want it to end.

But putting that aside, to dismiss the causes of why people do things like this (that is, shoot a bunch of children, though this argument applies generally to suicide as well) as 'Well they are crazy, crazy people do crazy things!" misses the opportunity to attempt to understand why and how such things happen, and possibly find ways to deal with the root causes better.

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BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND (COAS)....

I wondered how Fox News would cover this... and found this "gem". Turned my stomach in record time...

Why does God allow evil? | Fox News Video

Watching these guys dance around the issue would have been funny under different circumstances. And that Johnny fella... somebody should clue him in that his default facial expression here is seriously inappropriate. Sickening.
Do you go trolling for items that you find offensive so you can be publicly outraged on EhMac? I could just as easily go searching for references to all manner of let wing kookery in response to this. However, this is a tragedy—not the American politics thread. Show some restraint.
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Leading cause of death for children in 2012:

Abortion = 1.2 million

CDC puts gun related deaths at fewer than 2,000 in 2005--however, they include people up to 19 years old.

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Please don't start with another topic, no comparison of the two.
This not fair to those who died.

I am pro choice and always will be.
Another thread perhaps but not here.
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However, this is a tragedy—not the American politics thread. Show some restraint.
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