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Old Jul 12th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #1
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Thumbs up China, Canada, Norman Bethune

How China led Canada to Norman Bethune's "shrine"



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In October 1939, while tending to the wounded on the front lines with the communist Chinese army, Norman Bethune cut his finger. Blood poisoning set in. He correctly diagnosed that he would die.

As John Allemang reported Wednesday, a new visitors’ centre has opened beside the Bethune Memorial House in Gravenhurst, Ont., to honour the famous Canadian surgeon and humanitarian. And therein lies a tale that deserves to be told again.
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Today, 15,000 people traipse through the Bethune Memorial House every year and now they will be able to enjoy a spanking new visitors’ centre to boot. Bethune’s communist taint has long since been rinsed away; modern biographers appear more interested in his relentless womanizing. (He married and divorced the same wife twice, which was quite a feat back then.)
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The calculation is as simple now as it was back in the Seventies. The Chinese honour Bethune; Canada wants closer relations with China; Canada honours Bethune.
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Old Jul 12th, 2012, 08:51 PM   #2
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Bethune has long been suspect as to his real motives. He still is, it would seem.
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Old Jul 12th, 2012, 10:24 PM   #3
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Old Jul 13th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #4
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Ahhhhuh....

I know that Lavant can be over the top, but he does make some valid points, so do watch his little rant.

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Clement defends tax dollars for Maoist tribute
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Old Jul 13th, 2012, 01:03 AM   #5
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Ahhhhuh....

I know that Lavant can be over the top, but he does make some valid points, so do watch his little rant.

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Clement defends tax dollars for Maoist tribute
If Bethune had not saved these Maoist soldiers, they would not have been so effective in cleansing the Chinese countryside of vermin.

Put up a statue to Donald Sutherland instead.
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Old Jul 13th, 2012, 07:04 AM   #6
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Put up a statue to Donald Sutherland instead.
Or save a cool million and pay for that "victims of communism" monument which has been stalled for years.
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Old Jul 13th, 2012, 11:44 AM   #7
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Or save a cool million and pay for that "victims of communism" monument which has been stalled for years.
Would be nice to have the "victims of capitalism" monument beside it for a comparison...

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Tony Clement's tweet makes a fool of himself

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On Wednesday, Treasury Board Minister Tony Clement unveiled $2.5-million in improvements to a national historic site dedicated to Dr. Norman Bethune, a card-carrying Communist most famous for throwing in his lot with Mao Zedong’s forces against the Japanese. Some staunch conservatives were clearly nonplussed. Sun TV news created a snazzy graphic comparing atrocities...
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You could see Mr. Clement’s appearance, then, as a sign of a government with an ideological heritage growing up into a more pragmatic thing. You could, anyway, until Mr. Clement took to Twitter and made an ass of himself.
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Mr. Clement, a minister of the Crown, stood (as one does) to hear March of the Volunteers, lionized Comrade Dr. Bethune in front of a Chinese delegation, and then decided he’d go on Twitter to bolster his anti-communist bona fides … by siding with Ezra Levant, who then turned around and attacked Mr. Clement. That’s not evidence of a grown-up government at all.
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That statue should have been sold to the Chinese at a profit. It's a shame that the feds feel obliged to say anything about Bethune, but I think Clement is not out of line in stressing historical significance, while holding a harder line on Bethune's legacy.
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Would be nice to have the "victims of capitalism" monument beside it for a comparison...
It would be minuscule by comparison...
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It would be minuscule by comparison...
Well at least intentional victims... capitalism by it's very nature has a great number of unintentional victims... unlike those of communism's victims who are very pointed, selected and deliberate...

Capitalism of course has intended victims as well but that is where the comparison would become minuscule.... usually capitalism's intentional victims are their direct competition and that is built into the system.

Of course capitalism has always "taken advantage of" the lowest of the low and even the middle, but they aren't victims to the extent that occurs in communism, where anyone who disagrees with you ends up in prison, lamed or dead rather than just underpaid, over worked, working in poor conditions or fired.

But of course in communism you can and will also be underpaid, over worked and working in poor conditions... you just won't fired. If you are really bad at your job you will just be sent off to a labour camp or a "retraining" centre.
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