: newbie html question


buck
May 25th, 2003, 05:20 PM
I'm trying to teach myself html. So far its not going too well. I have typed a simple code, but when I save it as HTML in appleworks, I can't get it to open properly in explorer or safari. Does any have any tips or good online resources?

Roland
May 25th, 2003, 06:07 PM
Don't use AppleWorks to save your HTML. Use SimpleText or Text Edit (can't remember what the default text editor's name is in OS X). AppleWorks is probably addin some weird additional info when you save.

Hand coding HTML is a good skill to have. It's nice to understand what the basic codes mean.

icemakk
May 25th, 2003, 06:12 PM
htmlgoodies (http://htmlgoodies.com/primers/basics.html)
Here is a link for a good online tutorial for learning html.They walk you thru it step by step.
Hope this helps.

I believe you can use appleworks but you must use
"save as text only" when saving. It works for MSWord. I have not tried it in Appleworks.

Lawrence
May 25th, 2003, 06:52 PM
Use B.B.Edit to write html, It has a lot of plug-ins that you can get for it.

http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml

You can probably get older versions as well from places like:

www.download.com (http://www.download.com)

Or:

www.tucows.com (http://www.tucows.com)

D :cool:

buck
May 25th, 2003, 07:22 PM
thanks... I'll give it a shot

minnes
May 25th, 2003, 09:59 PM
I have made many web pages using just simpletext or TextEdit and saved as plain text with a html extension. Save it first as a .TXT document then change it to .html manually.
BBEdit is of course much better

Ohenri
May 25th, 2003, 10:42 PM
Never tried using Appleworks for that... Hmmm. The 1st thing that you'll need to do is have somekind of working knowledge of hypertext, right?? Afterwards, I would suggest that you use simpletext really - that will get you to practice a tuch more w/o having to be assisted too too much... But BBEdit is a hot app. I believe that the free vers may be BBEdit Lite. No floating palette with all the tags - If my mem serves me right. I could be totally wrong as I've not used it in a litte while. When you do use Simpletext, you can immediately save it as a .html file when it asks for a file name... do it all the time.

Get your self a HTML book - a light book should be enough to chewon for a minute or so. If not, pls go over here (http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/) for more details than you'll care to digest really... good spot though.

Cheers, and have fun!

archangel
May 26th, 2003, 11:44 PM
A lot of this depends on what you want to do. If you want to learn html (why?) then there a number of ways to do that. If you simply want free html editors, web site editors, then you can use some free wysiwyg ("what you see is what you get") programs.
For example, Netscape communicator has a built in program called Composer which does a good job. It has some limitations but Freeway has some free programs that cover those limitations.
It's still a time consuming process but you save the time of not learning an unnecessary language (imho, apologies to those who design programs or create cutting edge sites, when the code is needed).

PosterBoy
May 27th, 2003, 04:29 AM
*double post, please delete*

[ May 27, 2003, 06:12 AM: Message edited by: PosterBoy ]

PosterBoy
May 27th, 2003, 04:33 AM
Your best bet is to buy a book. I recomend HTML for the World Wide Web, Fifth Edition with CSS & XHTML (http://www.peachpit.com/isapi/st~%7B396480B8-E3E9-4D9C-A951-5AFFE73AFF85%7D/session_id~%7B579F0B4E-F2EE-4D97-9FBA-D95D5D482CC7%7D/product_id~%7B5578E066-1639-40EE-BEEE-11CD6F592CAE%7D/books/product.asp) by Elizabeth Castro.

I have owned every edition of this book since the 3rd (or was it second?), and it gets better every time. The author is very good at presenting ideas in an easy to understand way (and with pictures!), and the books aren't geared towards any specific platform either, there are screenshots and extra info for both Mac OS and Windows.

While you are at it, you might want to pick up a design book, like Designing with Web Standards (http://www.zeldman.com/dwws/) by Jeffrey Zeldman or one of the Web Pages That Suck! (http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/) books by Vincent Flanders**, to give you a better idea of how to put together an attractive and functional page.

All of these are available on Amazon.ca or your local bookstore.

--PB

**The interesting thing about Flanders is that he writes books about how to make a webpage doesn't suck, and his website kind of sucks. Wierd.

[ May 27, 2003, 06:19 AM: Message edited by: PosterBoy ]

buck
May 27th, 2003, 05:59 PM
I'm only trying to learn it because i can. just to see what i can do with it. I plan on getting a book this weekend. I'll keep everyone updated on my progress.

Lawrence
May 27th, 2003, 06:16 PM
I used to use Adobe Pagemill 2.0 and Sitemill back in the mid 90's, But Adobe doesn't offer support or upgrades for some strange reason, They still have support for Windose...But no Mac support.

Jerks.

D :cool:

mose
May 28th, 2003, 09:55 PM
web weaver (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/2141) is a great little product and because it is text based you can see the code... I learned using this. Still use it occasionally

ehMax
May 28th, 2003, 10:25 PM
HTML.... BLECH!!!! graemlins/ptptptptptpt.gif Why don't I buy a book on how to learn DOS while I'm at it! (Born and breast fed on GUI here). Give me icons! Give me drag and drop! Give me templates! I'm a busy man, I don't have time to learn:

</font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">&lt;center&gt;
&lt;table border=&quot;0&quot; width=&quot;95%&quot;&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.ehmac.ca/cgi_bin/ultimatebb.cgi&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.ehmac.ca/ubb/new_logo.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;ehMac Home&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot; face=&quot;Verdana, Arial&quot;&gt;Post A Reply&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;font size=&quot;1&quot; face=&quot;Verdana, Arial&quot;&gt;</pre>[/QUOTE]BLECH!!! graemlins/ptptptptptpt.gif

Oooh.. its not "pure" code or fully "optimized". Yeah, it also took me 2 seconds to drag and drop too. :D

(Uh-oh... going to start a CLI vs GUI debate here) ;)