: Adobe Alternatives...


Dennis Nedry
Apr 30th, 2010, 07:02 PM
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CubaMark
Apr 30th, 2010, 07:21 PM
Mac360 (http://mac360.com/index.php/mac360/comments/affordable_mac_alternatives_for_adobe_cs5_part_1/) is running a series of articles on just this topic.

To summarize: For those who need the power of Photoshop, go for Pixelmator (http://www.pixelmator.com/).

http://www.pixelmator.com/i/spider-big.jpg (http://www.pixelmator.com)

For something less powerful but perhaps more "easy" to do certain tasks, try Photoshop Elements.

An answer to Illustrator or Fireworks, in their view, would be EazyDraw (https://www.eazydraw.com/)

Check Mac360 (http://mac360.com/index.php/mac360/comments/affordable_mac_alternatives_for_adobe_cs5_part_1/) for more info.

pcronin
Apr 30th, 2010, 07:23 PM
In one of my schools, I have them using Inkscape. Draw Freely. (http://www.inkscape.org/) in plase of Illustrator, and the art teacher seems to be very satisfied.

of course gimp was my thought about PS replacement, perhaps Seashore - About (http://seashore.sourceforge.net/) or CinePaint (http://www.cinepaint.org/) would fit the bill?

SoyMac
Apr 30th, 2010, 11:02 PM
Corel?

Nope. Scratch that. Just checked and Corel is now Windows only.

(Geez, talk about Corel betting on the wrong horse!)

G-Mo
May 1st, 2010, 12:23 AM
Geez, talk about Corel betting on the wrong horse!

How do you figure? I love my Macs, but, Windows has ~92% market share?!!

screature
May 1st, 2010, 08:56 AM
How do you figure? I love my Macs, but, Windows has ~92% market share?!!

Overall market share... not computers that cost over $1000...

First reported by Betanews, NPD numbers released today report that Apple has 91 percent of the market share when it comes to computers worth over $1,000. That means nine out of ten dollars spent on PCs costing over $1,000 are spent on Apple computers.

Apple Has 91 Percent of Premium 'PC' Marketshare (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Apple-Mac-PC-Marketshare-macbook,8332.html)

Professional designers generally fall into this category.

DR Hannon
May 1st, 2010, 09:54 AM
Corel is missing an opportunity. With Adobe and Apple fighting.

SoyMac
May 1st, 2010, 10:46 AM
Corel is missing an opportunity. With Adobe and Apple fighting.Yeah, last night after I checked Corels' status, I couldn't help but think of how this would have been Corel's big chance to rocket to the top.

"Regrets, I've had a few ..."
- Cowpland ?

groovetube
May 1st, 2010, 11:02 AM
who has used corel?

Right. That's why they don't factor here.
;)

But they are pretty dumb not to put out a mac version.

bsenka
May 1st, 2010, 11:12 AM
who has used corel?

Right. That's why they don't factor here.
;)

But they are pretty dumb not to put out a mac version.

I haven't had to endure Corel in quite some time, but we used to have a few clients that insisted on using nothing but. We'd fight over who would "have to" work on that work. It was usually regarded as the punishment pile.

I distinctly remember one supervisor admonishing a coworker who was falling behind schedule with; "If you don't get that book done by deadline, I'll make you work on the Corel jobs for a week!"

groovetube
May 1st, 2010, 11:15 AM
ha ha. Once in a while we get sent a logo or something someone did in corel. Generally it's better to simply redo it...

bsenka
May 1st, 2010, 11:31 AM
These particular clients were doing entire books as multipage Corel documents. It was a nightmare.

On the flip side of that, the most bizarre Corel story I've heard if from a friend of mine who now lives in China. He recently made the yearbook for the school he was teaching at. Actually knowing what he was doing, he made a pre-press bulletproof inDesign document with all linked fonts and images included on the same DVD. The printer returned it to him saying they only accept Corel, and all images must be embeded (no links).

JCCanuck
May 1st, 2010, 01:05 PM
I haven't had to endure Corel in quite some time, but we used to have a few clients that insisted on using nothing but. We'd fight over who would "have to" work on that work. It was usually regarded as the punishment pile.

I distinctly remember one supervisor admonishing a coworker who was falling behind schedule with; "If you don't get that book done by deadline, I'll make you work on the Corel jobs for a week!"

...since I've used Corel and I just hated it at work. Now I am finding Photoshop CS4 extremely buggy and wish for an alternative. Didn't have to pay for the Suite at work of course but no way could I afford it at home.

screature
May 1st, 2010, 01:55 PM
...since I've used Corel and I just hated it at work. Now I am finding Photoshop CS4 extremely buggy and wish for an alternative. Didn't have to pay for the Suite at work of course but no way could I afford it at home.

Just curious as to what is buggy for you, as I haven't found that to be the case with my install. Maybe I haven't been doing the things you have and as such haven't encountered them.

groovetube
May 1st, 2010, 02:21 PM
it's been fine here too in general. I'm checking out CS5 now, written in coca and 64bit, I'm hoping it'll be even better.

i-rui
May 1st, 2010, 02:23 PM
To summarize: For those who need the power of Photoshop, go for Pixelmator (http://www.pixelmator.com/).

sorry, but pixelmator can't compare to PS. It can do certain things, but Photoshop is much more powerful.

who has used corel?



I still use Corel Painter. It's buggy & has memory leaks and performance issues... plus the interface sucks.

The truth is for power users there's no real alternative to Illustrator & Photoshop.

DR Hannon
May 1st, 2010, 03:13 PM
Sorry, I have not used a Corel product since college. My father uses Wordperfect suite, Corel painter for windows and a photo editor (name escapes me). He loves them. To the point where it is all he uses. Also, would like to see a Canadian company succeed.

DR Hannon
May 1st, 2010, 03:17 PM
Also, we use Seashore as our drawing program, a light weight, but fun to use and has enough features to keep us going.

screature
May 1st, 2010, 03:39 PM
Also, we use Seashore as our drawing program, a light weight, but fun to use and has enough features to keep us going.

Or maybe the lack off them is holding you back. Not saying it is the case.... just being devil's advocate. ;)

JCCanuck
May 1st, 2010, 03:42 PM
Just curious as to what is buggy for you, as I haven't found that to be the case with my install. Maybe I haven't been doing the things you have and as such haven't encountered them.
...plus I can't double-click an icon to open (this is after a few times it does work). Dumped the settings in PS prefs. works a few times then back to being buggy. Closing PS then reopening is just a temporary solution. I'm not sure this may be the cause after updating to Snow Leopard a few months ago. Everything is up to date for sure. Right now I am trying "open Rosetta" unclicked as someone suggested. If this doesn't work I'll reinstall PS.
Update: Taking the check off "open Rosetta" seemed to solve most of my PS woes!

DR Hannon
May 1st, 2010, 04:19 PM
Or maybe the lack off them is holding you back. Not saying it is the case.... just being devil's advocate. ;)

lol, could be, but I can barely draw a stick person. So I am good. My wife is the artist in the family.

screature
May 1st, 2010, 04:46 PM
lol, could be, but I can barely draw a stick person. So I am good. My wife is the artist in the family.

Never heard of Seashore before now, so I checked it out. What is interesting is that their site refers to it at as an image editor yet yet say you use it for drawing... care to elaborate? :)

DR Hannon
May 1st, 2010, 10:27 PM
Sure, we have a tablet (bamboo) and my wife draws all our latest kid's book pictures in it. Our last book we scanned the pictures and then used Seashore to colour them. Sorry for the long delay, took my wife out for dinner. My son is with the grandparents.

Works with the tablet better than the provided software. I think it was an adobe product, but cannot find the box.