: Sometimes the Truth Hurts


da_jonesy
Apr 30th, 2008, 12:24 PM
YouTube - test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hnOCUkbix0)

bmovie
Apr 30th, 2008, 12:35 PM
SOOOO true!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

lookitsmarc
Apr 30th, 2008, 12:37 PM
I like how the this video claims Lenovo is a no-compromise ultra-portable. By "no compromise" do they mean compromise the display, keyboard and trackpad, but have more usb slots and an optical drive?

Mississauga
Apr 30th, 2008, 12:48 PM
OK, but can it run OS X... reliably?

Apple's competition is shaking in their boots.

jeepguy
Apr 30th, 2008, 12:50 PM
ThinkPad X300 with additional 3 cell bay battery from 3405.00
ThinkPad X300 with DVD Burner From:$3,510.00*

I guess the truth hurts even more.

EvanPitts
Apr 30th, 2008, 02:03 PM
By "no compromise" do they mean compromise the display, keyboard and trackpad, but have more usb slots and an optical drive?

Yes! Have you seen one of those machines in real life? They are huge, like a pizza box. I have a friend who had one, and seriously, we were at a Hotspot when the manager came up and told him that the Hotspot was for laptops, not desktop machines.

Nothing of any usability is built in, so he has to lug around a mouse as well as a WiFi card; and it is twice the size and three times the weight of my iBook - which itself is three times the size and twice the weight of the MBA.

Does anyone buy anything from Lenovo? I can say, next to the one machine my friend used to have (he sold it and bought an old Pismo because it is "more portable"...), I have never seen anyone using them. Lots of Macs of various forms (even Clamshells), and the usual smattering of Dell and HP garbage, antique giant IBMs, but no Lenovos.

chas_m
Apr 30th, 2008, 03:23 PM
ALL "ultraportables" are FULL of compromises.

The "argument" put forth in this video is bogus, because its based on a false premise. MBA users do not need hubs or constant access to an optical drive. When I go to coffee shops and see all the laptops (more Macs than PCs I've noticed, at least around here), I never see a hub, or anyone burning a CD/DVD.

MBAs are primarily (nay, almost exclusively) used for surfing, email, writing and other (what we would call) "light" duty work. You might need to plug in a camera once in a while. You might need to plug in a mouse if you don't like trackpads.

That's about it. One USB port handles that easily.

There's a reason Apple didn't put a 2nd USB port on the MacBook Air (they certainly could have without materially affecting the thickness or weight). They CHOSE not to. If you can think, you will eventually work out why.

I've used this example before, but apparently it's hard to convince a bunch of nerds that non-nerds neither want NOR NEED unlimited access to everything all the time. :)

My wife is the PERFECT mba user. She wants a laptop because then she's not tied to a desk (she gets plenty of desk action at her job, thank you). Her almost sole uses of the computer are surfing, email, LiveJournal, Adium, simple games like Bejeweled, and occasionally iPhoto. Most of her friends (male and female) have similar usage patterns. They are FAR more interested in wireless hot spots than optical drives. They are FAR more concerned about a laptop's weight than about it's capacity. For them, a computer is little more than conduit to the internet. Period.

My wife might burn a half-dozen CDs per *year.* Her usage patterns are so light doesn't even really need to back up, because most of her "stuff" is actually stored online or on her iPod (her email's on .Mac or Google, her writings are on LJ, her music and photos on the iPod!). For many like me, the MBA makes a great "second" or "light duty" computer. For her, it's all she needs -- literally!

This is FAR closer to the typical user than anyone who posts here. :) W propeller-beanie wearing types might need more stuff in our laptops, but the truth is that if it wasn't for porn and music piracy (and the attendant massive storage those things require) most non-nerd people would find the MBA the perfect computer for them.

psxp
Apr 30th, 2008, 04:57 PM
ALL "ultraportables" are FULL of compromises.

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I've used this example before, but apparently it's hard to convince a bunch of nerds that non-nerds neither want NOR NEED unlimited access to everything all the time. :)
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lol!! thats so true.. nice comment.

kinda actually why my 2GB 1Gen Nano does me better than my 30GB full size one.. or why 160GB would be wasted on me..

fyrefly
Apr 30th, 2008, 05:35 PM
I agree with Chas. I am a MBA user myself and I never carrying around anything other than a BT Logitech Mouse ('cause I prefer the mouse to the trackpad. I carried that mouse around with regardless of the laptop I have. At home, connected to my desk, I have the Superdrive, USB Hub, External Monitor and all that, but day-to-day while I'm out walking around and working, I'm super happy with my "all compromise" MBA.

That being said, I still thought the video is funny. :D

Quicksilver G4
Apr 30th, 2008, 05:55 PM
Yeah, as long as you have as many Bluetooth devices as possible, 1 USB port is perfectly enough.

EvanPitts
Apr 30th, 2008, 06:31 PM
For me, it would have been better if Apple had put Firewire on the MBA, then it would be much more useful for connecting external drives and such. But then, the MBA is not a machine I would ever want or purchase...

The commercial is pure whack because at least the keyboard and trackpad on he MBA is actually usable. With the Lenovo - sure, you get some cheap Windoze only optical drive - but you end up having to lug around a keyboard and mouse because they are, on the Lenovo, uncompromised on the low quality and uselessness of those devices. Plus you get stuck running Windoze - on a pizza box where the manager at the local hot spot tells you that the Wifi is for laptops, not desktop servers...

No wonder why people are going Apple. A dude today couldn't get his Windoze junk to connect to the WiFi at the Library (all the while he was complaining about M$ Fista, but was sure that his XP was way better than OSX for WiFi) - while my seven year old iBook logged on the moment I flipped the screen up.

One dude at the hotspot I was at yesterday told me that my old iBook was junk because it is only "B" speed 9and of course, doesn't run special Windoze XP)... But since the HotSpot is locked at "B", the moron spent a hundred bucks on some special whack "N" speed Windoze only card (that he tells me will not run under M$ Fista so he is sticking with his special Windoze XP) - and gets less speed than my seven year old Airport...

fyrefly
May 1st, 2008, 06:34 PM
The key thing about the MBA is how "useable" it is as a computer for the tasks it's designed for. It's not designed to be a portable DVD Burner. It's not designed to be a powerhouse video editing machine. It's designed to be a tiny, lightweight, no compromise on human interface machine.

Feels like a real laptop. Light like an ultraportable.

jeepguy
May 1st, 2008, 10:06 PM
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No wonder why people are going Apple.

here's another reason


YouTube - Vista Sucks Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLlPnobhSdc)