: Free web editors with built-in FTP?


Eaon
May 12th, 2004, 02:33 PM
So, in my daily job, I use HTML-Kit (http://www.chami.com/html-kit/) on my Windows PC. It's a great program. The total killer feature for me is that you can edit files direct from the server, instead of having to download it using a separate FTP client, edit it, then re-upload. Now, I've done some looking around (and searching these forums), and I've seen several free HTML editors that don't have built-in FTP (HyperEdit, some others), and several not free (BBEdit, Dreamweaver) that do. I know I'm asking a lot here, but is there one that is free AND has built-in FTP? BBEdit looks like it might be a good program, but right now, I just blew the wad on my new PowerBook, I don't think I can get another few hundred from the wife for software. smile.gif

Chealion
May 12th, 2004, 04:57 PM
If you use Transmit, you can edit files in an external editor (SubEthaEdit, HyperEdit, etc.)

I can't remember any others off the top of my head at the moment.

rogueToe
May 13th, 2004, 01:57 PM
BBEdit does a ton of cool stuff that make it worth buying. For me, the ultimate was recordable Applescripts, which automated a lot of the tedious stuff. If this is job related, maybe you could get your employer to pay for it. I did.

Eaon
May 13th, 2004, 02:37 PM
If it were for my regular, Monday to Friday job, I would make the request, but it's not. It's for other, freelance stuff I do, so the expense needs to be justified. I don't make a lot of cash doing this freelance stuff - if I did, THAT would be my M-F job. smile.gif

Jordan
May 14th, 2004, 05:25 AM
I use RBrowser lite (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/13994) for my ftp and Taco HTML edit (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/15720) with HyperEdit (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/20324), every thing is drag and drop which makes it easy for me.
And they're Free. :D

rogueToe
May 15th, 2004, 06:00 PM
I just noticed that Cyberduck (a free FTP program) claims to work seamlessly with SubEthaEdit (a free text editor). So I fired up Cyberduck and went to an FTP site. Sure enough, I could click on a file name, then click on the Edit icon and it would open the file in SubEthaEdit. Where, of course, it could be edited. I hope this solves your problem. If nothing else, it confirms my belief that there's no limit to the cool stuff you can do with a Mac.

Eaon
May 15th, 2004, 11:20 PM
Well, I tried Cyberduck. It doesn't work. I click a file to download it, and it says permission denied. That's wrong. Either the program's broken, or the FTP site I'm logging in to is. Since the site is hosted with Telus, I'm betting it's the site that's broken, but the ineptitude of Telus Hosting is a whole other Shangri-La length thread unto itself. :rolleyes:

RBrowser Lite connects and transfers files just fine, but doesn't solve the editing part. I've tried Taco and HyperEdit, but neither has code completion for PHP (I know, not a criteria I mentioned earlier, but now I'm feeling lost without it). HTML-Kit doesn't have very good PHP code completion either, but Quanta (http://quanta.sourceforge.net/) does, which I use regularly on my Linux machines. As luck would have it, Quanta can run (http://ranger.befunk.com/phpwiki/) on OSX (along with most of the rest of KDE). I'm rather happy with this discovery, as KDE is my DM of choice on Linux, so it's making me feel very comfortable. smile.gif

Now, Quanta can't edit files directly on the server unfortunately (they claim it can, but I can't - given Cyberduck's problems, I'm starting to think it's Telus and not either of those programs that's broken, though HTML-Kit has no problems, nor do most other FTP programs), so I'm still stuck with a 2-program solution, which is tiresome, but what can I say, it's all free, I have no right to complain.

Well, that's where it's at right now. Quanta for quality code completion, RBrowser Lite for FTP. Thanks for your suggestions, everyone.

jonmon
May 16th, 2004, 01:57 PM
I get unreliable FTP access using Cyerduck and my sympatico account, so it may not be entirely Telus' problem.

rogueToe
May 16th, 2004, 04:19 PM
Just as an experiment, I tried getting into the website of the newspaper where I work. It's hosted at telusplanet.net. Cyberduck got in there within seconds. I did some editing with SubEthaEdit with no problem. You might want to make sure you've go the latest version of Cyberduck, which is 2.3. I know past versions have been a bit flakey, but this latest seems to work like a charm.

Sorry if I seem to be belabouring the subject. I find it kinda interesting, that's all.