: "Hidden tracks" in Toast. Is it even possible?


rubeole
Jun 16th, 2006, 09:14 PM
I've looked all over, and can't figure out how to burn a pre-track1 hidden song.

It's a pretty commonplace practise with pro CD production companies, but if there is a DIY solution - I would like to know about it!

Any ideas?

Chealion
Jun 17th, 2006, 02:30 AM
By hidden track, are you referring to a track that just isn't listed as being on the CD officially (which means it is it's own track) or the alternative which consists of putting the two song files together in one file seperated by a couple minutes of silence?

rubeole
Jun 17th, 2006, 02:47 AM
Neither, actually. Although those too are referred to as 'hidden tracks'.
Those are also both easily doable.

All CDs have a “track 0” (for lack of better terminology). Computers aren’t usually able to play track 0 - certainly not via iTunes, but any home stereo can. To find it, simply: insert CD and press play; hit the “rewind” button; the display will start at 0:00, and then show negative numbers as you rewind (i.e. -1:25, -1:26, -1:27…). If there is an audio track sitting around in there you will begin to hear it (backwards). Finally, when the music has stopped, release the rewind button and let the song play forward as normal. The numbers will now increase (-1:27, -1:26, -1:25…) and the song will rock, I’m sure.

This technique is kind of old hat now, but I can’t figure out a way to do it from home.

Here is some chatter about the subject:


http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/melt_banana/charlie/

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=4280227

rubeole
Jun 19th, 2006, 12:29 PM
So, no one?

hogie
Jun 19th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Peak Pro (http://www.bias-inc.com/products/peakPro5/) might be able to do this. Download their fully-functional trial demo to find out.

rubeole
Jun 19th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Over the years I have totally forgotten about Peak !

But I'm afraid I found this unfortunate news on their forums...

http://www.bias-inc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2193

I don't know if the response is necessarily true or if it's just "official".

hogie
Jun 20th, 2006, 05:34 PM
all i can suggest is to try the demo out and see if it works.

rubeole
Jun 20th, 2006, 06:56 PM
I'll do it.

Thanks!