: transfer emails and settings to new user on same computer?


wonderings
Sep 10th, 2019, 02:17 PM
We have an iMac at work that is running El Capitain. It has been unused for, well it has been on and downloads emails but not checked. I wanted to rename the admin user account for someone who will be using it. This was not as simple as I thought it would be. When I went to advanced and change the user name account it basically made a new account and I cannot log into the old one. I see the old account still there and can access all the files and such so at least those things are not lost. I pulled the time machine backup last month to reuse it somewhere else not anticipating I would actually need this computer for someone.

So long story short, I want to keep all the emails received and sent as well as settings. What files do I transfer over to the new account mail library to just swap it over?

Or if possible can I somehow restore this user account as it is all there?

pm-r
Sep 10th, 2019, 06:34 PM
When I went to advanced and change the user name account it basically made a new account and I cannot log into the old one.

Where did you make the namechange?? And I'm not sure that one can actually even change a username, or carry on doing what you want to do.

You may be able to get around some of the problems now that it seems like you have a new user added, and that would be by adding the user name to the appropriate folders, and all the enclosing items, and change the permissions as well.

That's could be a heck of a lot of work but it should work.

Or can you not just add another new user as you've done and then login as the old user to access any email or whatever but it sounds like nobody bothered with the email in the first place especially if nobody even bothered checking it.

On the other hand, the old email should be able to be moved over for the new user to use if that is what you are wanting to do.



- Patrick
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wonderings
Sep 11th, 2019, 02:05 PM
Where did you make the namechange?? And I'm not sure that one can actually even change a username, or carry on doing what you want to do.

You may be able to get around some of the problems now that it seems like you have a new user added, and that would be by adding the user name to the appropriate folders, and all the enclosing items, and change the permissions as well.

That's could be a heck of a lot of work but it should work.

Or can you not just add another new user as you've done and then login as the old user to access any email or whatever but it sounds like nobody bothered with the email in the first place especially if nobody even bothered checking it.

On the other hand, the old email should be able to be moved over for the new user to use if that is what you are wanting to do.



- Patrick
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There was an advanced button that brought me to a place where I could change the name.

I think the issue is when it asked me about the user location I selected the users folder rather then a name in the users folder. I tried adding the user name and moving the folders in that user folder but it only made copies.

pm-r
Sep 11th, 2019, 03:18 PM
I tried adding the user name and moving the folders in that user folder but it only made copies.

Try holding down the option key as you click and drag. That should move the original folders to the new location.


- Patrick
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wonderings
Sep 11th, 2019, 07:29 PM
Try holding down the option key as you click and drag. That should move the original folders to the new location.


- Patrick
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Will give that a try tomorrow, thanks

wonderings
Sep 12th, 2019, 11:03 AM
Unfortunately the hold option and move thing did not work, I tried holding everything in hopes it would move but with no success. If I knew what preference files and other little things needed to be moved I think it would just open like before, but it has been years since I have done something like that and think it has gotten more complicated as time goes on.

pm-r
Sep 12th, 2019, 02:55 PM
Unfortunately the hold option and move thing did not work, I tried holding everything in hopes it would move but with no success.

Well, one of them should:
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201236

Are you sure you're logged in as an admin user???

Try some google searches for some solutions for your problem.

Some permission changes will no doubt need to be made.

Or maybe try exporting and importing with another email client application using whatever combinations you need to use.

Was the old email POP or IMAP??? That will no doubt make a difference as to what will work or not.

I haven't used it for years but maybe the old Mac Emailchemy application Email Migration Software might help you out assuming that still works with the later Mac OS versions.
https://weirdkid.com/emailchemy/

It used to be a great application for migrating or moving mail and was one of the very few that kept correct dates and attachments all together, along with status as to sent, replied etc.

PS: Don't bother with Apple's mail export/import, it just dates everything the same date unless they finally improved it a bit. A remote possibility. :o

Just some thoughts...


- Patrick
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wonderings
Sep 12th, 2019, 05:02 PM
Well, one of them should:
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201236

Are you sure you're logged in as an admin user???

Try some google searches for some solutions for your problem.

Some permission changes will no doubt need to be made.

Or maybe try exporting and importing with another email client application using whatever combinations you need to use.

Was the old email POP or IMAP??? That will no doubt make a difference as to what will work or not.

I haven't used it for years but maybe the old Mac Emailchemy application Email Migration Software might help you out assuming that still works with the later Mac OS versions.
https://weirdkid.com/emailchemy/

It used to be a great application for migrating or moving mail and was one of the very few that kept correct dates and attachments all together, along with status as to sent, replied etc.

PS: Don't bother with Apple's mail export/import, it just dates everything the same date unless they finally improved it a bit. A remote possibility. :o

Just some thoughts...


- Patrick
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It is an admin account, so no luck there.

The emailchemy program sounds like it would do what I am looking for. Will try and hunt it down. The computer in question is still running El Capitain so not the latest update, hopefully something will be out there. Thanks for the suggestions, much appreciated.

pm-r
Sep 12th, 2019, 06:08 PM
The emailchemy program sounds like it would do what I am looking for. Will try and hunt it down.

Available at:
https://weirdkid.com/emailchemy/
and via:
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/8471/emailchemy

As the site says:
Emailchemy will run as a demo until unlocked with a valid registration key. The demo will mask subject and sender fields in the converted email. Please try the demo before purchasing.
macOS 10.7 10.14: Lion, Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite, El Capitan, Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave Disk Image [.dmg]

A bit pricy for a single user and a one trick pony, but it worked well when I last used it back in the Eudora swithing days.


- Patrick
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wonderings
Sep 13th, 2019, 09:13 AM
I have the demo doing its thing right now. I did have another thought though. So the person I want to move to this iMac is using an old mac mini with 10.8.5. I have a time machine backup for this computer. Can I restore the iMac in question that has El Capitain to Mountain Lion with a backup? This would give me all the email stuff I want. The iMac is from 2011 so just before Mountain Lion. Any reason this would not work?

pm-r
Sep 13th, 2019, 01:31 PM
Any reason this would not work?


I can't see why that wouldn't work.

A typical mid-2011 can run:
Pre-Installed MacOS: X 10.6.6 (10J4026) Maximum MacOS: X 10.13.x*

For more specs and details check out here:
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-i5-2.7-21-inch-aluminum-mid-2011-thunderbolt-specs.html

Good luck.



- Patrick
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wonderings
Sep 13th, 2019, 02:45 PM
I can't see why that wouldn't work.

A typical mid-2011 can run:
Pre-Installed MacOS: X 10.6.6 (10J4026) Maximum MacOS: X 10.13.x*

For more specs and details check out here:
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-i5-2.7-21-inch-aluminum-mid-2011-thunderbolt-specs.html

Good luck.



- Patrick
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Running a backup of the iMac I messed up then going to install from the latest time machine backup from the mini, that seems the simplest and easiest solution rather then hunting around for everything I need to setup mail as it was before.