: iPhone 4s bricked, what can I do?


winwintoo
May 14th, 2019, 10:35 AM
I know, my old 4s is no longer supported, but I thought I could still use it to play solitaire.

I tried to restore it by connecting to iTunes on my MacBook Air. It said I needed to update the iOS, but then it said the update was no longer available.

Now, it just shows the connect to iTunes screen but itís a vicious circle, canít connect to iTunes .....

Before I tried to restore, I could at least use it as a bedside clock! I forgot the password so I thought restoring it was the way to go. Now itís a brick, not even a clock.

Any ideas? Is there a magic way to restore this thing? A hidden cache of discontinued iOS files?

Please help

pm-r
May 14th, 2019, 07:16 PM
Any ideas? Is there a magic way to restore this thing? A hidden cache of discontinued iOS files?


Why not download iMazing.app and see if you can't get it to help you with a Restore.

You may need to download an appropriate restore image as well that you should be able to find at some sites. Use Google to find some.

For iMazing:
https://imazing.com/

PS: It should also work with any backup you might have created with iTunes as well. But the iTunes backup will not contain the IOS as an iMazing backup will.

So maybe try starting off doing an amazing backup and then trying a restore or whatever is needed.

BTW: You said iPhone 4s bricked, will it not even boot, or what exactly else is wrong?


- Patrick
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CubaMark
May 14th, 2019, 07:47 PM
Do the instructions on this Apple Support page (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201263) not do the trick?

hexdiy
May 14th, 2019, 08:06 PM
Why not try & let it drain its battery completely. Then try and repair it with Dr fone repair, connected to your Mac via USB cable:

https://drfone.wondershare.com/nl/ios-system-recovery.html

I am aware this may be some shady software, but i'll be darned if I haven't repaired a bricked iPad Mini 4 with it last summer!
A feat certainly impossible in iTunes these days!

@ PM-R: iMazing is certainly a good alternative, too!

hexdiy
May 14th, 2019, 08:10 PM
Do the instructions on this Apple Support page (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201263) not do the trick?

That is certainly an excellent method! And the 1st one to try...

However: it got me into endless loops while trying to repair an iPad Mini last summer.
Dr fone did the trick in the end.

pm-r
May 14th, 2019, 08:51 PM
@hexdiy
Then try and repair it with Dr fone repair, connected to your Mac via USB cable:

https://drfone.wondershare.com/nl/io...-recovery.html


Thanks for the info and the link, but I thought Dr. fone was actually or mainly for data recovery rather than repair and restore type functions, or does it work well for that as well???


- Patrick
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hexdiy
May 14th, 2019, 09:38 PM
Well, I don't know a lot about iOS, but when the neighbours came to me with a bricked iPad 4 Mini last summer, after several trials I was able to restore it to factory defaults thanx to DR Fone.

Note well that I had to try & retry until finally the iPad battery was fully drained.

I think I downloaded the iOS .IPA to one of my Macs, connected the iPad with a USB cable, and restored it via DR Fone.
A feat which would have been impossible via iTunes probably. Because iTunes always wants you to download the latest version of iOS.
Dr Fone isn't that pickish.

Just make sure you download the latest possible make of iOS for your device. Finding that wil cost you some trial & error, but will work in the end.

Well, a lot of trial & error, but success in the end!

I'm always on the lookout to bypass iTunes. In that perspective, Android is a lot more permissive...

pm-r
May 15th, 2019, 03:10 PM
I'm always on the lookout to bypass iTunes.


It would have been nice if Apple had done the same thing, except for maybe leaving it to just play music etc. It's still too much a Jack of all, master of none type of application.


- Patrick
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winwintoo
May 15th, 2019, 07:52 PM
Thank you guys. Some good information.

I tried iMazing, but got the same message saying I needed to upgrade the iOS, but after a long wait, it said the update wasnít on the server. Iím guessing the phone has some version of iOS 8 and iOS 9 is probably the latest version it could handle.

Before I started this, I could use the iPhone as a bedside clock, but I had set it up for a relative with a password that nobody remembers. I thought I could reset it to factory and start from scratch and at least play solitaire on it.

Now all I get is the screen showing it wants to be plugged into iTunes.

I will try all your suggestions. Thanks

winwintoo
May 16th, 2019, 11:06 AM
I tried both iMazing and DrFone, found the iOS 9.3.5 download, but the price tag for the software stopped me. I donít know if this old phone is worth $70 :eek:

But all is not lost!

A few months ago I was selling an old iPad, somebody ďborrowedĒ it to try it out and used some random characters to create a password. It cost me $125 at the fixer place to get it restored. Had I known about these apps, I could have done it myself.

pm-r
May 16th, 2019, 04:05 PM
I tried both iMazing and DrFone, found the iOS 9.3.5 download, but the price tag for the software stopped me. I donít know if this old phone is worth $70


iMazing say their free "trial" may version might work but has some limitations regarding recovery in that mode it seems:
[QUOTE]What are the limitations of the trial version?
Our trial is meant for you to preview iMazingís many features. Everything is accessible, but we restrict the amount of items which you can transfer./QUOTE]
https://imazing.com/faq

Worth a shot if it'll let you get back into some type of Restore mode.

Or for alternatives, try a google search:
restore iPhone 4s lost password etc.
https://www.google.com/search?q=restore+iPhone+4s+lost+password&oq=restore+iPhone+4s+lost+password&aqs=chrome..69i57.13630j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This might be a good site to try: (with Apple supported comments yet)
How can I unlock my iPhone if I forgot the passcode?
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/iphone/iphone-troubleshooting-repair-faq/iphone-how-to-unlock-open-forgot-code-passcode-password-login.html



- Patrick
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ChilBear
May 16th, 2019, 04:12 PM
If you are the owner of the iPhone - have you considered calling Apple help? Never know.

winwintoo
May 16th, 2019, 06:09 PM
iMazing say their free "trial" may version might work but has some limitations regarding recovery in that mode it seems:
[QUOTE]What are the limitations of the trial version?
Our trial is meant for you to preview iMazingís many features. Everything is accessible, but we restrict the amount of items which you can transfer./QUOTE]
https://imazing.com/faq

Worth a shot if it'll let you get back into some type of Restore mode.

Or for alternatives, try a google search:
restore iPhone 4s lost password etc.
https://www.google.com/search?q=restore+iPhone+4s+lost+password&oq=restore+iPhone+4s+lost+password&aqs=chrome..69i57.13630j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This might be a good site to try: (with Apple supported comments yet)
How can I unlock my iPhone if I forgot the passcode?


https://everymac.com/systems/apple/iphone/iphone-troubleshooting-repair-faq/iphone-how-to-unlock-open-forgot-code-passcode-password-login.html



- Patrick
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iMazing does offer free options, but the restore option I need is not free - you need a $59 USD license.

None of the othe solutions will work because iTunes is trying to restore to iOS 9.3.5 which is no longer on the Apple servers.

I found a file that says itís ios 9.3.5 and maybe iMazing would install it, but I donít want to pay.

iPhone 4s hasnít been supported by Apple for years, so no use calling them. The only thing I can see on the screen now is the picture I posted earlier.

So, itís a brick. Or a paperweight.

pm-r
May 16th, 2019, 06:52 PM
iPhone 4s hasnít been supported by Apple for years, so no use calling them. The only thing I can see on the screen now is the picture I posted earlier.
So, itís a brick. Or a paperweight.


All the more reason to give them a call. After all you don't want to be going around advertising that their stuff is only good as a paperweight.

Another thought, maybe contact some of the kids around your area, some of whom no doubt are really good at hacking stuff and have means of getting it back to life!!!

PS: I thought that everymac article that references to Apple's methods of restoring it would work, maybe lose any data but I don't think you care about that.



- Patrick
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winwintoo
May 16th, 2019, 08:48 PM
PS: I thought that everymac article that references to Apple's methods of restoring it would work, maybe lose any data but I don't think you care about that.



- Patrick
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It should have worked but it kept failing because the required software was not on the server. Apple no longer supports iPhone 4s and therefore doesnít support those early versions of iOS. The only way is some third party fix - and thatís expensive.

CubaMark
May 16th, 2019, 09:57 PM
I wonder if somewhere in the process of attempting a jailbreak (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/08/phoenix-jailbreak-ios-9-3-5-32-bit-devices.html) might give you something that can get you going....?

CubaMark
May 16th, 2019, 09:59 PM
And - will the IPSW 9.3.5 for iPhone 4s on this page give you what you need?

https://www.redmondpie.com/download-ios-9.3.5-ipsw-for-iphone-ipad-ipod-touch-direct-links/

winwintoo
May 16th, 2019, 10:36 PM
I wonder if somewhere in the process of attempting a jailbreak (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/08/phoenix-jailbreak-ios-9-3-5-32-bit-devices.html) might give you something that can get you going....?

The comments there donít sound promising and that page refers to jail breaking 9.3.5. If 9.3.5 installed, I wouldnít need to jailbreak it.

winwintoo
May 16th, 2019, 10:37 PM
And - will the IPSW 9.3.5 for iPhone 4s on this page give you what you need?

https://www.redmondpie.com/download-ios-9.3.5-ipsw-for-iphone-ipad-ipod-touch-direct-links/

I downloaded the Ipswich file, but you need third party software to install it and I donít have and canít afford the software.

pm-r
May 16th, 2019, 11:25 PM
I wonder if somewhere in the process of attempting a jailbreak (http://www.iphonehacks.com/2017/08/phoenix-jailbreak-ios-9-3-5-32-bit-devices.html) might give you something that can get you going....?

And - will the IPSW 9.3.5 for iPhone 4s on this page give you what you need?

https://www.redmondpie.com/download-ios-9.3.5-ipsw-for-iphone-ipad-ipod-touch-direct-links/


I was wondering the same thing or at least some method and version of using some method or version of jailbreaking.

I find it hard to believe that Apple is so hard up that they can't support or help a user With an IDevice that is now almost basically useless. I thought they abhorred waste, especially of their own products!!!

As I said, I'd sure be giving Apple a call.


- Patrick
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hexdiy
May 17th, 2019, 01:41 AM
PM sent; no use to jailbreak!