: The Alberta UCP thread


Macfury
Apr 18th, 2019, 10:05 AM
Thought I would create a brand new UCP thread to discuss the next four years of Alberta politics.

FeXL
Apr 18th, 2019, 10:07 AM
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Great minds think alike...

After you, Alphonse. ;)

Macfury
Apr 18th, 2019, 10:09 AM
Let's go with yours FeXL--it covers everything.

Beej
Apr 18th, 2019, 08:48 PM
Thought I would create a brand new UCP thread to discuss the next four years of Alberta politics.

The UCP presented little useful detail on how they will control costs. They should start by adopting large chunks of the FCP platform.

https://www.freedomconservativeparty.ca/platform_budget

SINC
Apr 19th, 2019, 01:52 PM
The UCP presented little useful detail on how they will control costs. They should start by adopting large chunks of the FCP platform.

https://www.freedomconservativeparty.ca/platform_budget

Oddly enough, I thought the same thing when I read the FCP platform myself.

Freddie_Biff
Apr 19th, 2019, 03:43 PM
This should be interesting. Let's keep track of how the clusterf*cks on the right have evolved into the governing UCP. And by all means, let's hold them to account.

FeXL
Apr 19th, 2019, 05:18 PM
Well, Freddie, they won't be any worse than the clusterf*cks on the left they demolished.

This should be interesting. Let's keep track of how the clusterf*cks on the right have evolved into the governing UCP.

The interesting thing, Freddie, is that you will find clear & open criticism of the UCP from a number of us on these boards. That's something you, yourself, could never muster for Red Rachel, idn't it...

And by all means, let's hold them to account.

Macfury
Apr 19th, 2019, 06:17 PM
The interesting thing, Freddie, is that you will find clear & open criticism of the UCP from a number of us on these boards. That's something you, yourself, could never muster for Red Rachel, idn't it...

It's a fundamental difference between the left and right.

macintosh doctor
Apr 20th, 2019, 10:33 AM
This should be interesting. Let's keep track of how the clusterf*cks on the right have evolved into the governing UCP. And by all means, let's hold them to account.

I would just like to mention how impressed i am with Jason.
Remarkable leader quits his job In Ottawa moves to Alberta Unites two parties, runs in the by election, wins and now wins by a landslide as premier!!! that is not a small feat.
I see him as PM soon.

SINC
Apr 22nd, 2019, 08:23 AM
Inside Jason Kenney's plan to kickstart Alberta's economy — and heal the province's divisions

At an Alberta New Democratic Party event in Calgary one early March day, anxious parents and children flanked Premier Rachel Notley as she waxed apocalyptic.

The writ had not yet dropped, but the province’s long-awaited election campaign was effectively already underway, and Notley was there to paint a dire picture of what would happen if voters elected Jason Kenney’s United Conservative Party. “These kids right here — these lovely kids — aren’t rubbing their hands waiting for a 33-per-cent cut in corporate tax,” said Notley.

That was the moment, Kenney would later tell the National Post, that he decided Notley “fundamentally misunderstands the province.”

The conventional wisdom is for the frontrunner in an election campaign to play it safe. When the election call came, however, Kenney — leading comfortably in the polls since he won the leadership of the united party — kicked off his bid to become premier with a big risk.

Slashing the corporate tax rate from 12 per cent to eight per cent, giving the province the lowest rate in Canada, became the focal point of the UCP campaign — and, after the official swearing-in on April 30, it will become the focus of Alberta’s new government.

It may seem eccentric to stake the farm on a massive corporate tax cut even as populist politicians around the globe are taking aim at big business, but Kenney believed he had an ace up his sleeve: The party’s internal polling on the issue was absolutely off the charts.

“It was like, shocking,” Kenney said in an interview with the Post. “I was even shocked. It was like 70-30 in favour of this. There’s like 25 per cent of the population that wanted us to go deeper, wanted us to go to a 50-per-cent reduction in the business tax rate.”

Long before the writ dropped, and long before Kenney completed his years long journey from federal cabinet minister to Alberta PC leader to uniter of the province’s splintered political right to premier-designate, he entered the process of building a UCP platform ready to question some of his own conservative orthodoxy — especially on economic policy.

But, in the party’s internal polls, Albertans seemed happy to support some old-school, supply-side measures conservatives believe are vital to bringing investment back to the province.

More at the link.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/inside-jason-kenneys-plan-to-kickstart-albertas-economy-and-heal-the-provinces-divisions?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1555931084

eMacMan
Apr 22nd, 2019, 10:52 AM
I would just like to mention how impressed i am with Jason.
Remarkable leader quits his job In Ottawa moves to Alberta Unites two parties, runs in the by election, wins and now wins by a landslide as premier!!! that is not a small feat.
I see him as PM soon.

More than a few of us believe this is his end game. The ideal scenario for Kenney, would see Scheer somehow fumbling an absolutely golden opportunity and Truedope squeaking back in with a minority. Scheer would be axed and Kenney fresh off this big win would almost certainly step in. Then a year or so later the conmen could force an election and Kenney would indeed win the grand booby prize.

Freddie_Biff
Apr 23rd, 2019, 12:20 AM
PREMIER-DESIGNATE SAYS THE FEDERAL CARBON TAX ISN’T AS BAD AS THE PROVINCIAL ONE

An interesting comment from Premier-designate Jason Kenney concerning the carbon tax. Part of his campaign was to get rid of the provincial one. But as we know, if that one is sent packing, it will be replaced by the federal one. He justified that over the weekend in an interview with CTV:
“The Alberta NDP carbon tax is worse than the federal Liberal carbon tax from a taxpayer’s point of view. It’s one-third higher. It has much lower levels of rebate. And so, from a consumer point of view, while we oppose the federal carbon tax, it’s less bad than the Alberta NDP one.”

An interesting view, since with no provincial carbon tax, Albertans would not receive a carbon tax rebate either. Give your head a shake, Jason.

https://www.cfcw.com/2019/04/22/premier-designate-says-the-federal-carbon-tax-isnt-as-bad-as-the-provincial-one/?fbclid=IwAR3WaPqeizuMaVt6SdbXQLiWwS46nVAYGK98w-CC3CaRM8b_Obnbm8ZOfVk#

Macfury
Apr 23rd, 2019, 01:20 AM
That's not true. Those provinces willing to stand against a provincial tax are still receiving rebates from the federal program.

An interesting view, since with no provincial carbon tax, Albertans would not receive a carbon tax rebate either. Give your head a shake, Jason.

SINC
Apr 23rd, 2019, 03:58 AM
PREMIER-DESIGNATE SAYS THE FEDERAL CARBON TAX ISN’T AS BAD AS THE PROVINCIAL ONE



An interesting view, since with no provincial carbon tax, Albertans would not receive a carbon tax rebate either. Give your head a shake, Jason.

https://www.cfcw.com/2019/04/22/premier-designate-says-the-federal-carbon-tax-isnt-as-bad-as-the-provincial-one/?fbclid=IwAR3WaPqeizuMaVt6SdbXQLiWwS46nVAYGK98w-CC3CaRM8b_Obnbm8ZOfVk#

Wrong again Freddie. All provinces citizens can claim their federal carbon tax rebate on their income tax. Regina Leader-Post story confirms it:

https://leaderpost.com/news/saskatchewan/sask-environment-minister-says-he-will-claim-2019-carbon-tax-rebate-this-year

*shakes head*

FeXL
Apr 23rd, 2019, 09:41 AM
Once again, you're concerned about the nickels & dimes from the carbon tax rebate, all the while Red Rachel's profligate spending has cost you thousands of $$$.

An interesting view, since with no provincial carbon tax, Albertans would not receive a carbon tax rebate either. Give your head a shake, Jason.

Macfury
Apr 30th, 2019, 01:40 PM
Alberta's new energy minister is Sonya Savage:

Her most recent position was senior director of policy and regulatory affairs at the Canadian Energy Pipeline Association where she handled files on regulatory reform, Indigenous reconciliation, legal, environment and climate change.

What's wrong with this new government? Did they remove "anti-pipeline activist" from the job requirements?

FeXL
Apr 30th, 2019, 02:22 PM
What's wrong with this new government? Did they remove "anti-pipeline activist" from the job requirements?

Rascis'!!!

Freddie_Biff
Apr 30th, 2019, 06:10 PM
Gosh. It makes you wonder if he said it just to get elected.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190430/49fa49ef18c9051dbfed53fa9e9df695.jpg

Jason Kenney says at this time, the United Conservative Party will not be using legislation to stop sending oil to B.C.

Kenney, who was sworn in Tuesday, had promised during his campaign he'd turn the taps off to B.C.

CALGARY (NEWS 1130) – Despite promises to immediately proclaim legislation to “turn off the taps” to B.C., Alberta’s new premier says his government will pursue a more diplomatic route first.

Jason Kenney was sworn in Tuesday morning. The United Conservative leader had promised repeatedly during his campaign that if he was elected he would stop sending oil to B.C. for the west coast province’s opposition to the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. The controversial project has strained the relationship between the two provinces for months.

Before going into his first cabinet meeting, Kenney refused to confirm if Bill 12, the turn off the taps legislation, was on the agenda.....

https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/04/30/kenney-alberta-no-intention-turning-off-taps-bc/

CubaMark
Apr 30th, 2019, 06:23 PM
Gosh. It makes you wonder if he said it just to get elected.

*snicker*

:rolleyes:

18m2
Apr 30th, 2019, 08:18 PM
Surprise?

He's a politician and politicians will say anything to win.

FeXL
Apr 30th, 2019, 08:23 PM
As opposed to, say, not mentioning once in your campaign an issue that will definitely not get you elected?

Like, say, Red Rachel & her carbon tax?

Which is worse, Freddie? A lie of omission or an adjustment to your policy?

Gosh. It makes you wonder if he said it just to get elected.

Macfury
Apr 30th, 2019, 08:29 PM
I don't recall him saying he would do so immediately. Do you have a quote on that, Freddie?

Gosh. It makes you wonder if he said it just to get elected.

FeXL
Apr 30th, 2019, 08:35 PM
Hello, Bigot.

Earlier you were fine with "People say and mis-speak a lot of things".

And, just as I explicitly pointed out, someone from the right says something & it's yuk-worthy?

Hypocrite...

*snicker*

eMacMan
Apr 30th, 2019, 08:48 PM
Kenney is a politician. If his lips were moving chance are really good he was lying. No surprise.

Then we have Rachel's lies about the carbon tax. She said not a word during the campaign then dropped it on Albertans with zero consultations. Nope not even a Shannon Phillips job where they claimed they were listening but sent the RCMP as proxies.

IOW Rachel was lying even when her lips were not moving!

eMacMan
May 1st, 2019, 11:24 AM
Most politicians are prone to use what I call weasel words. Of course Kenney is no exception and the wording is of course crucial.

He has said he would sign Bill B-12 into law, and appears to have done so. As to whether he takes it any further depends on the next move from Horgan.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/this-law-is-unconstitutional-b-c-to-take-alberta-to-court-after-kenney-proclaims-turn-off-the-taps-legislation/wcm/a72ccb98-697c-41d4-bcb6-0fa2725fc77c

Kenney promised repeatedly during the election that, should the UCP win, his cabinet would proclaim Bill 12 “within one hour” of being sworn in.

Neither Kenney nor his Energy Minister Sonya Savage would comment Tuesday on whether that was still the plan, but the premier confirmed in an op-ed penned originally for the Vancouver Sun (now running in the Journal and Calgary Herald) that his cabinet had charged ahead.

“We did not proclaim this law to reduce energy shipments to B.C. but to have the power to protect Alberta’s ability to get full value for our resources should circumstances require,” Kenney wrote.

“By proclaiming this law, we are showing that we are serious about protecting Canada’s vital economic interests. This does not mean energy shipments will immediately be reduced but that our government will now have the ability to actually use the law should circumstances require.”

Freddie_Biff
May 2nd, 2019, 01:05 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190502/f1a04dc0134f3911a4305b705bae2e73.jpg

Macfury
May 2nd, 2019, 02:42 PM
I thought that it was this face:

eMacMan
May 2nd, 2019, 08:31 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190502/f1a04dc0134f3911a4305b705bae2e73.jpg
You really should have read the post immediately prior to this before posting yet another meme that fails to relate to reality.

Macfury
May 2nd, 2019, 09:28 PM
You really should have read the post immediately prior to this before posting yet another meme that fails to relate to reality.

Following either current events or the thread in which he's posting are not two of his strong suits.

FeXL
May 2nd, 2019, 11:40 PM
Wild Rose Country (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/05/02/wild-rose-country-2/#comments)

As he gears up for the most important political battle of a generation:

In the short time since he has been elected, there has been no shortage of voices saying that Kenney will not be able to get Alberta’s oil and gas to international markets because of the political realities in Vancouver and Montreal and Ottawa and Paris and the UN, etc.

But that’s the current ground, upon which not even the super progressive Rachel Notley could get a pipeline built. What Kenney will do, as he always does, is to shift the terrain.

Hmmm...

Some of the things mentioned in the article are up for debate. That said...

Comments salient.

eMacMan
May 13th, 2019, 06:13 PM
A little surprising. I figured since his lips were moving when he said it, Kenney was lying, he is after all a harpoon politician and learned from the master. Still it looks like he intends to follow through.

No mention if the July rebates will also be aborted. Interesting times. I don't foresee any prices coming down as a result, so those on the low end of the financial ladder will of course be hurt the most.

https://calgaryherald.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/alberta-premier-says-provincial-carbon-tax-will-die-may-30/wcm/0a3e92ba-5de4-4976-a88b-820c3ec74fae

FeXL
May 14th, 2019, 10:55 AM
Wild Rose Country (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/05/13/wild-rose-country-3/)

Alberta, meet your new Agriculture Minister. #plant19 https://t.co/EOzaniyLx8

— Jason Kenney (@jkenney) May 12, 2019

And the first comment:

What a novel idea! Imagine having a farmer as Agricultural Minister.

SINC
May 28th, 2019, 09:51 AM
If the UCP does nothing else this term, they have done one thing very right by restoring the secret ballot to any employee vote to certify a union in the province.

This removes the threats and intimidation unions use to bully employees into forming a union. Best thing ever against forced unionism, an all too common tactic used by union thugs.

Alberta's Bill 2 will restore mandatory secret ballot for all union certification votes, and return to a 90-day period (down from six months) for unions to provide evidence of employee support for certification.

The government will also establish a program by Oct. 1 to provide “support and assistance” to unionized employees for them to better understand and exercise their rights under the labour relations code.

Changes affecting unions would take effect when the bill receives royal assent or when regulations are completed.

Freddie_Biff
May 31st, 2019, 03:14 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/1c8b928fdcf9e08ca9ff3f39ebe9f3a7.jpg

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/05/jason-kenney-vows-to-sue-wildfires-for-defaming-oil-industry/?fbclid=IwAR04au8ig3SKZQb86rZCX97wvak822JDbRKb_HCe zyr0rHHKN-Pu-2Zd9po

Macfury
May 31st, 2019, 03:27 PM
With optimism in the Alberta economy booming, an article from the Beaverton is all you got? You should be happy for the province!

eMacMan
May 31st, 2019, 03:43 PM
Wasn't too long ago Freddie was vehemently denying that his memes had zero correlation to reality.

Obviously he's forgotten that little shnit fit.

However it does have my wondering how the Feds are going to collect their Trudeau Tax on all the CO2 that wildfire is generating. Thankfully since Kenney abolished the Alberta version Alberta taxpayers will not be footing the cost of trying to collect that tax.

eMacMan
Jun 2nd, 2019, 11:29 AM
OOPS another meme firmly based in fantasy. For those too dumb to figure it out, Kenney points out the obvious:
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/alberta-premier-says-carbon-taxes-wont-help-stop-forest-fire-threat
“They’ve had a carbon tax in British Columbia for 10 years. It hasn’t made a difference to the pattern of forest fires there … or in Alberta. And we’ve always had forest fires. We always will,” Kenney said Friday after a luncheon speech to a Calgary business audience.More specifically we have huge tracts of something commonly called 'Fire Pine'. This tree grows as thick as grass in the aftermath of a forest fire. In fact it depends on fire to release its seeds. After 40 to 50 years the Fire Pine are mature, pine bark beetles kill off huge swaths of them and the next stage in the cycle is, you should have guessed it by now, a forest fire.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/1c8b928fdcf9e08ca9ff3f39ebe9f3a7.jpg

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/05/jason-kenney-vows-to-sue-wildfires-for-defaming-oil-industry/?fbclid=IwAR04au8ig3SKZQb86rZCX97wvak822JDbRKb_HCe zyr0rHHKN-Pu-2Zd9po (https://www.thebeaverton.com/2019/05/jason-kenney-vows-to-sue-wildfires-for-defaming-oil-industry/?fbclid=IwAR04au8ig3SKZQb86rZCX97wvak822JDbRKb_HCe zyr0rHHKN-Pu-2Zd9po)

SINC
Jun 2nd, 2019, 09:57 PM
With optimism in the Alberta economy booming, an article from the Beaverton is all you got? You should be happy for the province!

Yeah leopards never change their spots. Just like Freddie never learns. He's still swimmin in the shitload of debt Rachel left behind with a closepin on his nose.

Freddie_Biff
Jun 8th, 2019, 03:01 PM
Opinion: Two-tier minimum wage will cost older workers their jobs

CALGARY HERALD
Updated: June 7, 2019

Premier Jason Kenney’s cavalier approach to the minimum wage has led to one of Bill 2’s most regressive changes in a piece of legislation filled with them.

By lowering the minimum wage to $13 from $15 for an estimated 35,000 workers aged 13-17 — for the first 28 hours per week when school is in session and for all hours worked during the summer — the UCP has kept one of its most controversial election promises while facilitating the increased exploitation of young workers for the sake of higher private profits.

This isn’t the first time a conservative government has implemented an age-based minimum wage differential in Alberta. We had one in the 1990s, called a “training. wage,” that allowed employers to pay 50 cents less per hour to those under 18.

The Klein government, however, nixed its unequal youth wage in 1998....




https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-two-tier-minimum-wage-will-cost-older-workers-their-jobs

Macfury
Jun 8th, 2019, 05:35 PM
Good move! There needs to be a premium to hiring younger workers that Notley's regressive policies removed.

Freddie_Biff
Jun 8th, 2019, 06:44 PM
Good move! There needs to be a premium to hiring younger workers that Notley's regressive policies removed.



How does your statement make any sense?

Macfury
Jun 9th, 2019, 12:01 AM
Youth workers are inexperienced. Without a dual-wage system, all things being equal, people will hire only seasoned workers.

Freddie_Biff
Jun 20th, 2019, 12:19 PM
Earplugs. Very mature, Jason, very mature. What a great example you set. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/2cafbffe1629fee9982dcfe2d543d0f1.jpg

Macfury
Jun 20th, 2019, 12:37 PM
It's kind of funny, considering the way that Notley's NDP steamrollered all opposition to her kook-fringe legislation.

I believe Kenney was elected in part to control generous public sector wage and benefit packages, so he's delivering on a promise. What could the NDP possibly say on behalf of the unions they represent that would make a difference?

eMacMan
Jun 20th, 2019, 01:57 PM
It's kind of funny, considering the way that Notley's NDP steamrollered all opposition to her kook-fringe legislation.

I believe Kenney was elected in part to control generous public sector wage and benefit packages, so he's delivering on a promise. What could the NDP possibly say on behalf of the unions they represent that would make a difference?

It will be interesting to see if Kenney uses the Harpoon approach. Will his MLAs and cabinet ministers be handed one sentence talking points by their puppet masters, and be punished severely if they say anything else?

SINC
Jun 20th, 2019, 02:49 PM
Kenney is quite right not to listen to the knotheads. Red Rachel still doesn't get it that Albertans rejected both her and her party by a huge majority. She needs to learn to STHU.

Freddie_Biff
Jun 20th, 2019, 03:19 PM
It will be interesting to see if Kenney uses the Harpoon approach. Will his MLAs and cabinet ministers be handed one sentence talking points by their puppet masters, and be punished severely if they say anything else?



I would be surprised if anything different transpired.

Freddie_Biff
Jun 20th, 2019, 03:21 PM
Kenney is quite right not to listen to the knotheads. Red Rachel still doesn't get it that Albertans rejected both her and her party by a huge majority. She needs to learn to STHU.



Wrong. Kenney and his United Cons are being paid to listen to and represent all Albertans, not just the ones he likes. The arrogance is unwarranted.

Macfury
Jun 20th, 2019, 03:29 PM
Notley listened and then thoroughly ignored all of the Albertans begging her to abandon her nonsensical platform. You supported her arrogance for four ruinous years.

Wrong. Kenney and his United Cons are being paid to listen to and represent all Albertans, not just the ones he likes. The arrogance is unwarranted.

Freddie_Biff
Jun 20th, 2019, 03:43 PM
Notley listened and then thoroughly ignored all of the Albertans begging her to abandon her nonsensical platform. You supported her arrogance for four ruinous years.



At least she listened. She didn’t stick earplugs in her ears and pass them out to all her party cohorts.

Macfury
Jun 20th, 2019, 05:42 PM
She didn't pass out earplugs. She pretended to listen and refused to entertain a single viewpoint that didn't take the province further to the left.

Stings, doesn't it?

At least she listened. She didn’t stick earplugs in her ears and pass them out to all her party cohorts.

FeXL
Jun 20th, 2019, 05:59 PM
To whom? The voices in her head? It sure as hell wasn't the farmers when she unionized farm workers, as just one example. It also wasn't business owners when she cranked minimum wage up to $15/hr, either. Nor was it John Q Public when she hired on 50,000 new public employees or created $100 billion in debt & deficit.

In some instances, she never even bothered asking the question. Eg., the carbon tax.

Go p!$$ on somebody else's back & tell them it's rainin', Freddie...

At least she listened.

Freddie_Biff
Jun 20th, 2019, 07:51 PM
She didn't pass out earplugs. She pretended to listen and refused to entertain a single viewpoint that didn't take the province further to the left.



Stings, doesn't it?



Uh, no. Kenney claimed he would be improving the decorum in the legislature, and then he pulls this assoholic stunt. No one is defending him. Except you.

Macfury
Jun 20th, 2019, 09:15 PM
I'm neither defending nor criticizing something that I don't care about. If Rachel Notley had built Alberta's economy instead of hamstringing it, she could have danced on the legislature tables for all I care.

Uh, no. Kenney claimed he would be improving the decorum in the legislature, and then he pulls this assoholic stunt. No one is defending him. Except you.

Macfury
Jun 20th, 2019, 09:20 PM
To whom? The voices in her head? It sure as hell wasn't the farmers when she unionized farm workers, as just one example. It also wasn't business owners when she cranked minimum wage up to $15/hr, either. Nor was it John Q Public when she hired on 50,000 new public employees or created $100 billion in debt & deficit.

In some instances, she never even bothered asking the question. Eg., the carbon tax.

Go p!$$ on somebody else's back & tell them it's rainin', Freddie...

She shafted Alberta with the proper decorum, and in Freddie's books, that's OK.

FeXL
Jun 20th, 2019, 11:19 PM
The second Red Rachel's cadre of Proglets left the building not only did the decorum improve, but the average IQ in the building went up 20 points...

Kenney claimed he would be improving the decorum in the legislature...

SINC
Jun 21st, 2019, 04:17 AM
At least she listened. She didn’t stick earplugs in her ears and pass them out to all her party cohorts.

Bullchite.

Like she listened to Albertans pleas not to foist a carbon tax upon us. :rolleyes:

Freddie_Biff
Jun 21st, 2019, 09:31 AM
Bullchite.



Like she listened to Albertans pleas not to foist a carbon tax upon us. :rolleyes:



You’re being obtuse. She listened, even if she disagreed. Your boy Kenney made a complete ass of himself and his party with the ear plugs shenanigans. The action is not defensible from someone who said they wanted to improve the decorum. Further, it sends a pretty clear message to the citizens of this province.

SINC
Jun 21st, 2019, 09:32 AM
I don't suppose anyone upset by this bit of fun bothered to check the facts before shooting their mouths off, mainly Dippers?

The ear plugs were not used. It was all in fun to poke fun at NDP lies being told in the legislature.

A spokesperson for Alberta Premier Jason Kenney is dismissing complaints that he disrespected the legislature and public sector workers by handing out earplugs to his caucus during a debate on Bill 9 late Wednesday night.

"This was a harmless and light-hearted attempt to boost government caucus morale after being forced to listen to the NDP's insults, lies and over-the-top rhetoric for hours on end," Kenney's press secretary Christine Myatt said in a written statement Thursday.

Government House leader Jason Nixon echoed that statement saying UCP MLAs were just joking around during a late night debate.

"Certainly nobody was wearing earplugs during debate inside the legislature, that's a ludicrous assessment," Nixon told reporters.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/premier-jason-kenney-earplug-stunt-1.5183189?cmp=newsletter-news-digests-edmonton

Macfury
Jun 21st, 2019, 09:34 AM
It sends a clear message to the leftist boobs who have ruined the province, I'll give you that.

But it's small condolence to the thousands of businesses that collapsed under Notley that she listened to their concerns while she stuck a knife in their backs. Ask those businesses whether they'd rather have Kenney, who pulled a silly stunt with earplugs, or the return of Rachel Notley (who listens to them).

You’re being obtuse. She listened, even if she disagreed. Your boy Kenney made a complete ass of himself and his party with the ear plugs shenanigans. The action is not defensible from someone who said they wanted to improve the decorum. Further, it sends a pretty clear message to the citizens of this province.

eMacMan
Jun 21st, 2019, 09:53 AM
You’re being obtuse. She listened, even if she disagreed. Your boy Kenney made a complete ass of himself and his party with the ear plugs shenanigans. The action is not defensible from someone who said they wanted to improve the decorum. Further, it sends a pretty clear message to the citizens of this province.

You certainly cannot say the same about her cabinet minister Shannon Phillips. She who sent the RCMP in her stead to avoid listening to local opposition to the Castle Wilderness Area scam.

Macfury
Jun 21st, 2019, 10:40 AM
You certainly cannot say the same about her cabinet minister Shannon Phillips. She who sent the RCMP in her stead to avoid listening to local opposition to the Castle Wilderness Area scam.

Exactly what I was thinking of. No government representatives sent, so no earplugs required!

FeXL
Jun 21st, 2019, 11:18 AM
Why, yes. Yes, it does...

:clap::clap::clap:

Further, it sends a pretty clear message to the citizens of this province.

FeXL
Jun 21st, 2019, 11:20 AM
You certainly cannot say the same about her cabinet minister Shannon Phillips. She who sent the RCMP in her stead to avoid listening to local opposition to the Castle Wilderness Area scam.

Yep. I missed that one in my post.

FeXL
Jul 19th, 2019, 05:33 PM
Public inquiry into U.S.-funded attack on Alberta is vital (https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/corbella-public-inquiry-into-u-s-funded-attack-on-alberta-is-vital)

For at least the past 10 years — it’s actually more like 20 — Alberta’s oil and gas industry has had a target on its back that it has done little to remove.

Lies and smears have been spread around the world about how damaging Alberta’s oilsands are to the existence of our planet. The response over all of those years by the Alberta government and, worse yet, the energy industry? Silence. Crickets. A veritable black hole of a response. Actually, silence would have been preferable.

Many major oil players in Alberta actually helped fund the smears against them by sending tens of thousands of dollars annually to the likes of the David Suzuki Foundation, the Pembina Institute and even Greenpeace, which has actually argued in court documents that using lies to further its agenda while damaging legitimate businesses should be allowed under its right to freedom of expression.

More:

Kenney has vowed to bring in a law that bans foreign money from Alberta politics, something that should be implemented across the country.

Good!

FeXL
Jul 23rd, 2019, 10:03 PM
Renegade Regulator (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/07/23/renegade-regulator-11/#comments)

Someone – finally – has been paying attention.

The Government of Alberta has advised, thus far informally, that it will not comply with Manson’s Law, the Court Ruling which permits private ownership of legislation. The Government has advised that a formal declaration on the matter will be released this summer. Watch for it folks, this is big.

Prog heads exploding...

Beej
Aug 2nd, 2019, 09:06 AM
A couple notes on opposition to the UCP's "Chicago Principles" for free speech on university campuses.

Here an NDP critic is quoted as saying the UCP's move is "pandering to the hate groups and anti-choice groups".
https://twitter.com/abndpcaucus/status/1157009348490489857

The critic conflates hate groups and anti-abortion groups. They want to ban anti-abortion groups from speaking as they would with hate groups?

Another NDP critic refers to "an intentional move to broaden polices to invite in racists, homophobes, and misogynists"
https://twitter.com/KathleenGanley/status/1156280202755887104

More conflating. Given how freely progressives dish out the labels racist, homophobe, and misogynist, it sounds like they're eager to limit speech across a wide range of political opinion, and not just "hate".

Criticize racial quotas for jobs? Racist. Criticize a Pride parade policy? Homophobe. Criticize feminist theory? Misogynist. All some form of "hate" to the NDP.

Macfury
Aug 2nd, 2019, 10:18 AM
Criticize racial quotas for jobs? Racist. Criticize a Pride parade policy? Homophobe. Criticize feminist theory? Misogynist. All some form of "hate" to the NDP.

I don't doubt that getting broad buy-in on banning "hate" was always intended to move the dial this far. I never supported a separate legal treatment for so-called hate.

eMacMan
Aug 2nd, 2019, 11:06 AM
I don't doubt that getting broad buy-in on banning "hate" was always intended to move the dial this far. I never supported a separate legal treatment for so-called hate.

Ditto here. Now we're seeing legislation attempts that would jail those who support a boycott of Israeli settler made products. They must be anti-semitic since they oppose the concentration camps in the West Bank and Gaza. Absolutely obscene.

eMacMan
Aug 7th, 2019, 11:44 AM
https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/alberta-mlas-discuss-taking-five-per-cent-pay-cut/wcm/951cd496-2944-4838-bf7f-a5fd5749a8ae

Way past time and pathetically inadequate given the amount of damage past governments have inflicted on the province. However it is good to see that they brought travel allowances in line with the public sector.

The committee also voted Tuesday to kill the fuel credit card program for MLAs, remove the ability to claim for fuel, maintenance and car washes, and bring politician mileage to the same per-kilometre rate as the public service.

Now if we can just get them to accept CPP and OAS as their only form of public pension, just like the rest of us.

dona83
Sep 6th, 2019, 02:45 PM
So, is Alberta winning yet? It doesn't feel like Alberta's winning. I'm glad all these newly unemployed Albertans will have a balanced budget on their dinner tables though.

FeXL
Sep 6th, 2019, 03:47 PM
So, is Alberta winning yet? It doesn't feel like Alberta's winning.

In order for Alberta to win, it's a 2 step process. We got rid of the provincial commies, that's step one. Step two involves getting rid of the federal commies & da little feminist dictator. That's going to take separation.

Macfury
Sep 6th, 2019, 04:19 PM
So, is Alberta winning yet? It doesn't feel like Alberta's winning. I'm glad all these newly unemployed Albertans will have a balanced budget on their dinner tables though.

Notley salted the economic earth of Alberta. What do you expect from a new government in four months? And what does a balanced budget have to do with creating unemployment?

Freddie_Biff
Sep 6th, 2019, 05:30 PM
In order for Alberta to win, it's a 2 step process. We got rid of the provincial commies, that's step one. Step two involves getting rid of the federal commies & da little feminist dictator. That's going to take separation.



That sounds like a pretty wimpy answer to how to get the province “winning” again. You get what you wanted: the “commies” are gone. Like dona83, I don’t see much winning yet. Gloating yes, actual success no.

Macfury
Sep 6th, 2019, 05:55 PM
Four months to undo four years of carpet-bombing the economy?

That sounds like a pretty wimpy answer to how to get the province “winning” again. You get what you wanted: the “commies” are gone. Like dona83, I don’t see much winning yet. Gloating yes, actual success no.

FeXL
Sep 6th, 2019, 05:56 PM
Getting rid of the commies was the first step forward. That in itself will save taxpayers 10's of billions of $$$. That's already a win. The rest will take a while as the tangled web Red Rachel weaved is parsed and dismantled, thread by thread.

After that, separation is the only thing left. Of course, Kenney could take the first steps by declaring a UDI, trading in the Queen's Horsemen for a provincial police force (not these goofy-assed sheriff idiots), collecting GST ourselves & then forwarding it to Prinz Dummkopf and developing the Alberta Pension Plan, among others.

That sounds like a pretty wimpy answer to how to get the province “winning” again. You get what you wanted: the “commies” are gone. Like dona83, I don’t see much winning yet. Gloating yes, actual success no.

Freddie_Biff
Sep 6th, 2019, 08:25 PM
Getting rid of the commies was the first step forward. That in itself will save taxpayers 10's of billions of $$$. That's already a win. The rest will take a while as the tangled web Red Rachel weaved is parsed and dismantled, thread by thread.



After that, separation is the only thing left. Of course, Kenney could take the first steps by declaring a UDI, trading in the Queen's Horsemen for a provincial police force (not these goofy-assed sheriff idiots), collecting GST ourselves & then forwarding it to Prinz Dummkopf and developing the Alberta Pension Plan, among others.



Separation. That’s your ultimate end game. Clearly you haven’t thought this through. We’d still have no pipeline to tide water and no way to get one either. That’s some insightful thinking.

Macfury
Sep 6th, 2019, 09:05 PM
You have no pipeline now, thanks to Notley's dithering. Why would not having one as a separate country be worse?

Separation. That’s your ultimate end game. Clearly you haven’t thought this through. We’d still have no pipeline to tide water and no way to get one either. That’s some insightful thinking.

FeXL
Sep 6th, 2019, 09:41 PM
On the contrary, a lot of thought has gone into this.

Any east-west/west-east freight movement across our border, whether by air, rail or highway, immediately gets the crap taxed out of it. Loads are inspected minutely to make sure they conform to our regulations. I can see these inspections taking days. I expect that suddenly, the bastards are going to be amenable to a pipeline. If not, we'll run one stateside and the refineries that currently process our oil and communities that use our natural gas can all GF'd. Wanna see the Lower Mainland come onside in a hurry? Turn their natural gas tap off. Then both the eastern and the western bastards can freeze in the dark.

And, and, not only no more Laurentian Elite dictating terms & conditions which are entirely unacceptable to western Canadians, but no more unfairly calculated transfer payments to provinces who refuse to develop their own resources and are using Alberta taxpayers as their own personal milch cow.

You just have to look beyond your nose, Freddie.

Separation. That’s your ultimate end game. Clearly you haven’t thought this through. We’d still have no pipeline to tide water and no way to get one either. That’s some insightful thinking.

Macfury
Sep 6th, 2019, 11:03 PM
You just have to look beyond your nose, Freddie.

A lot of prog Albertans don't even want the oil and gas industry to succeed.

FeXL
Sep 7th, 2019, 09:02 AM
A lot of prog Albertans don't even want the oil and gas industry to succeed.

Fine. Let's see 'em walk the walk: this winter they can prove their worthiness by living entirely off the grid. And none of this halfway BS, either. You either commit to it, in which case there'll be a helluva lot fewer of the idiots come spring, or you don't & you STFU. No changing your mind a few hours into the first cold snap.

A true acolyte believes...

Related:

20,000 new NYC homes/businesses NEED natural gas before winter but pipeline blockades won’t allow it…climate activism/energy ignorance roll the dice with thousands of lives at stake (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/09/07/20000-new-nyc-homes-businesses-need-natural-gas-before-winter-but-pipeline-blockades-wont-allow-itclimate-activism-energy-ignorance-roll-the-dice-with-thousands-of-lives-at-stake/)

Should a cold snap emerge that creates the same situation as happened in Rhode Island earlier this year, we could quite easily see a catastrophe of such monumental significance that it might actually break through the energy-ignorance wall of climate activists. There appears to be no other way to get them to learn other than to have a great number of people die.

Macfury
Sep 7th, 2019, 10:43 AM
Fine. Let's see 'em walk the walk: this winter they can prove their worthiness by living entirely off the grid. And none of this halfway BS, either. You either commit to it, in which case there'll be a helluva lot fewer of the idiots come spring, or you don't & you STFU. No changing your mind a few hours into the first cold snap.

A true acolyte believes...

Related:

20,000 new NYC homes/businesses NEED natural gas before winter but pipeline blockades won’t allow it…climate activism/energy ignorance roll the dice with thousands of lives at stake (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/09/07/20000-new-nyc-homes-businesses-need-natural-gas-before-winter-but-pipeline-blockades-wont-allow-itclimate-activism-energy-ignorance-roll-the-dice-with-thousands-of-lives-at-stake/)

They will blame people with commmon sense for faling to provide them with sun heat and windmill power at crippling prices. This is religion we're talking. The new Luddites.

Freddie_Biff
Sep 7th, 2019, 05:01 PM
A lot of prog Albertans don't even want the oil and gas industry to succeed.



Well that’s not true of this prog Albertan. You make a lot of assumptions.

FeXL
Sep 7th, 2019, 08:09 PM
"A lot" ≠ "everybody"...

Well that’s not true of this prog Albertan. You make a lot of assumptions.

FeXL
Sep 7th, 2019, 08:12 PM
Related:

Alberta: The Right Once Again Has to Clean Up the Fiscal Mess Wrought by the Left (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/09/07/alberta-the-right-once-again-has-to-clean-up-the-fiscal-mess-wrought-by-the-left/)

Having personally lived through two disastrous NDP governments in B.C., 1972-75 and 1991-2001, my heart pours out to our neigbours in Alberta, who suffered through the disastrous financial ruin of Rachel Notley’s incompetent reign. Being a Devout Leftist, she of course has no shame and accepts no responsibility for the enormous damage she has done.

But people who … you know … are responsible and understand math … have a quite different opinion:

Not only a funding freeze but serious spending cuts. Obviously, drastic times require drastic measures. Finally.

Alberta governments in the last couple of decades spent when times were good and kept spending when times were not so good. As a result, this province, which was once debt-free, built up the most expensive bureaucracy per capita in the country on the back of a climbing deficit and debt.

As the panel points out, if per capita spending matched the average spending in Canada’s three largest provinces, we would not have a deficit.

However, for all the high-priced services, service delivery was no better and often worse than in other provinces. In other words, the provincial government’s performance is mediocre, at best, with the health-care system singled out for improvement.

FeXL
Sep 15th, 2019, 10:35 PM
Pleasing Your Enemies Does Not Turn Them Into Friends (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/09/14/pleasing-your-enemies-does-not-turn-them-into-friends-8/)

Jason Kenney takes no prisoners.

Honestly, it can’t be easy being the long-time head of Amnesty International Canada (AI), stuck in annoyingly free and peaceful Canada, having to work yourself up into high dudgeon to denounce a democratically-elected government peacefully standing up for its citizens.

On the other hand, your insistence that the burning human rights threat in Canada right now is – to use your description – the “establishment of an energy ‘war room’ devoted to defending the oil and gas industry in Alberta and a public inquiry into the foreign funding of groups who oppose or criticize energy developments in the province” can hardly pass unchallenged. Relentless misinformed attacks against our oil and gas industry have cost us thousands of jobs and hurt families from every region of our province. The cost in investment and jobs has been incalculable. Our government won the largest democratic mandate in Alberta history in part on a promise to stand up to those attacks. I will not apologize for keeping that promise.

FeXL
Sep 24th, 2019, 10:48 AM
Inquiry into foreign funding of anti-Alberta energy campaigns could shake up enviro charities (https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-inquiry-into-foreign-funding-of-anti-alberta-energy-campaigns-could-shake-up-enviro-charities)

In a drive-by take-down editorial this past weekend, the Globe and Mail blasted Alberta’s public inquiry into foreign funding of anti-Alberta energy campaigns. The editorial had few facts on hand to support its claims, but it let loose with a series of cheap shots, glib commentary and a conclusion that fell back on an ancient tribal chant: “For Alberta to create a public inquiry to go after critics is a McCarthyesque misuse of power.”

Ah, McCarthyism, the old ideological cushion of the lazy lefty — although most Canadians under the age of 50 would have to Google it.

FeXL
Oct 3rd, 2019, 11:26 AM
Frankly, I find the concept of this so-called "Alberta Energy War Room" a joke. We all know what the problem is. There are any number of solid solutions floating around. To the top two in the comment quoted below, add in "Turn off the Trans Canada pipeline" and "Build the Alaska Pipeline". There. That was easy. Cheque, please?

Now, find someone with the cajones to apply them...

Alberta’s Energy War Room Gets Revved Up (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/10/02/albertas-energy-war-room/#comments)

It will soon be up & running! Bravo Premier Kenney!

From the comments (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/10/02/albertas-energy-war-room/#comment-1243843):

I notice all the trains are still running on schedule with their oil cars.
All the pipelines to BC are still flowing.
No protestors are in jail.
No collection notices have been sent to people who accepted foreign donations.
Government hasn’t lost any employees.
Government salaries haven’t been cut.
No programs cut.
No grants cut.
Still have wind energy in Alberta.
Still have no nuclear power in Alberta.

Yeppers.

The linked article:

'Energy war room' to begin work within weeks, Kenney tells business crowd (https://calgaryherald.com/business/local-business/energy-war-room-to-begin-work-within-weeks-kenney-tells-business-crowd)

FeXL
Oct 15th, 2019, 10:07 PM
Kenney's an idiot.

Liberals Hate You (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/10/14/liberals-hate-you/#comments)

It’s really not that complicated.

Sad to see what’s happened to the once great Liberal Party.

Justin Trudeau’s top advisor thinks a working guy wearing a mandated safety vest is a Nazi dog whistle.

A world away from Jean Chrétien praising the dignity of work. https://t.co/8DAJ4vsUYJ

— Jason Kenney (@jkenney) October 14, 2019

The singular thing about the Liberal party that was ever great is the steaming pile they leave in the midst of our country...

Beej
Oct 24th, 2019, 07:45 PM
The Alberta Budget
https://www.alberta.ca/budget.aspx

I hope Kenney implements the planned cuts/hikes or more. I had expected more of a Ford-type cop out, so this is a pleasant surprise. It will probably cost me a lot, but it's good for the province as a whole.

CubaMark
Oct 25th, 2019, 08:07 AM
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/73260610_10162474685865113_6490105603308912640_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQn_qYL2x6CM1FdkENVeWZ7SnaV_71s_RHUCp5Pwp5u 0KG9TOFzvelMDutuP7Jj3cMk&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=5e5f1a17c4ec30e22f37136c1258f25d&oe=5E21D74C

Macfury
Oct 25th, 2019, 10:37 AM
Albertans want to see cuts. That's why they voted UCP. I know that concept fries your prog/socialist brain...

CubaMark
Oct 25th, 2019, 01:18 PM
Albertans want to see cuts. That's why they voted UCP. I know that concept fries your prog/socialist brain...

Interesting how your visual agnosia blocks out the first part of that meme.... :rolleyes:

Macfury
Oct 25th, 2019, 01:35 PM
I've got nothing against tax cuts. Money earned by people and businesses belongs to them--not the government.

Interesting how your visual agnosia blocks out the first part of that meme.... :rolleyes:

CubaMark
Oct 25th, 2019, 06:30 PM
I've got nothing against tax cuts. Money earned by people and businesses belongs to them--not the government.

:lmao: He's done it again! :clap:

SINC
Oct 25th, 2019, 06:42 PM
Well, I was out all day in the community at the grocery store, to the doc's office, the optometrist to get my glasses adjusted, the bank to make a deposit, the coffee shop for a half-hour, the neighbourhood gas station and store to fill up and lastly the pub for an hour. I asked all kinds of folks how they felt about the budget. Short answer, no problem, it was needed and just what we expected was the common response. That's why we got rid of Notley, so no big deal with average Albertans.

That noted, all the TV and news outlets can do is run stories on how it is hurting Edmonton so bad as their LRT funds were scaled back for two years. Serves the residents of Edmonton right, going all NDP in the election. Looks good on them.

Macfury
Oct 25th, 2019, 07:26 PM
Serves the residents of Edmonton right, going all NDP in the election. Looks good on them.

Freddie agrees with you. Why should Edmonton expect any consideration if it never votes conservative?

Macfury
Oct 25th, 2019, 07:27 PM
Look at that crappy meme through your prog glasses for a moment and tell us all what we should be getting excited about.

:lmao: He's done it again! :clap:

eMacMan
Oct 31st, 2019, 02:37 PM
This is something positive the United Conmen could easily have accomplished by this fall's changeover.

I really don't care whether we go 100% MDT or 100% MST, but this semi annual shift should have been stopped a long time ago!

https://calgaryherald.com/news/b-c-to-introduce-time-change-law-but-not-in-time-for-sundays-fall-change/wcm/a025cedf-b079-40f8-bda9-1fe67e85e54b

VICTORIA — British Columbia is pushing ahead with a plan to eliminate seasonal time changes, but when it would happen remains a matter of timing.

Attorney General David Eby says legislation is being introduced Thursday that would allow B.C. to stop moving between daylight saving time and standard time every spring and fall.

Freddie_Biff
Oct 31st, 2019, 03:50 PM
This is something positive the United Conmen could easily have accomplished by this fall's changeover.

I really don't care whether we go 100% MDT or 100% MST, but this semi annual shift should have been stopped a long time ago!

https://calgaryherald.com/news/b-c-to-introduce-time-change-law-but-not-in-time-for-sundays-fall-change/wcm/a025cedf-b079-40f8-bda9-1fe67e85e54b



It was an NDP MLA that proposed this change a few years ago.

SINC
Oct 31st, 2019, 03:52 PM
It was an NDP MLA that proposed this change a few years ago.

Yep, it was. It was also the NDP government who chickened out and didn't follow through. ;)

eMacMan
Oct 31st, 2019, 06:17 PM
It was an NDP MLA that proposed this change a few years ago.

Yep, it was. It was also the NDP government who chickened out and didn't follow through. ;)


Bingo! They could bring in people from Ontario to change lightbulbs, irritating a large portion of the population. And failed to follow through on a really good idea. Not truly their idea, but a very good idea which had almost universal support.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 2nd, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jason Kenney is an asshole, pure and simple. $4.7 billion could go a long way in a hurting economy beyond corporate giveaways.

Notley: Kenney has betrayed Albertans to fund a $4.7B corporate handout

Rachel NotleyUpdated: October 30, 2019

The budget presented by Premier Jason Kenney and the UCP will force every single Albertan to pay for his $4.7-billion no-jobs corporate giveaway.

This budget will extract more in personal income taxes from every Albertan by disconnecting the tax code from inflation. This is a shocking betrayal of Jason Kenney’s central campaign promise.

The Canadian Taxpayers’ Federation blasted the move as a “hidden, sneaky tax.” Jason Kenney himself denounced this technique as a tax increase when he led the CTF. It’s a sneaky tax that will pull $600 million out of individual Albertans’ pockets.

And then there are the cuts.

All Albertans will pay more to register their cars and campers, more for home and car insurance, electricity, school fees, even visits to provincial museums.

Students will see their tuition costs skyrocket by 21 per cent over three years, and their parents won’t be able to apply those costs against their taxes anymore. That’s a tax increase.

More than 46,000 older Albertans will be kicked off the Seniors Drug Benefit Program, and income testing will be introduced for those who stay through that first purge. Those are families on fixed incomes that will have to find the money elsewhere to pay for the medication they need.

Jason Kenney has also targeted some of the most vulnerable for the deepest cuts.

Organ recipient Doug Pearson given a second chance…


Severely handicapped Albertans will immediately lose $30 a month in benefits, rising to $120 a month by 2023.

As many as 165,000 families living just above the poverty line will lose part of their child benefits, and 55,000 families will lose them entirely.

Almost $100 million in housing and rental support has also vanished.

There’s no doubt that these decisions will push thousands of Alberta children into poverty, and some families into homelessness.

This budget breaks a range of promises made by Jason Kenney and his government.

He promised education funding would keep pace with a growing student population. Promise broken — this budget provides $200 less for each student than last year.

He promised health spending would keep pace with population growth. Promise broken — this budget takes money out of hospitals, out of our ambulance system, and out of our diagnostic imaging and lab testing system.

Our government began the planning work on a badly needed redevelopment of the Red Deer Regional Hospital. Jason Kenney cut all of that planning money, and the hospital work has stopped.

Incredibly, there is no significant new funding for rural police, let alone the 500 new officers he promised. This budget has a one-time $9-million increase — less than the NDP committed to rural crime — and then quickly drops rural police funding to below 2018 levels. In a few months, Jason Kenney will be spending less on rural policing than our government did.

Albertans should not forget that one of Jason Kenney’s first acts as premier was to max out the province’s credit card on a $4.7-billion giveaway to the largest and most profitable corporations. We know this money has already been distributed to corporate shareholders without creating a single job. More than 27,000 Albertans have lost their jobs on Jason Kenney’s watch.

This budget does nothing to get them back to work. Budget 2019 simply forces every Albertan to pay for Kenney’s corporate handout.

NDP Leader Rachel Notley is the head of the official Opposition in Alberta.

https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/notley-kenney-has-betrayed-albertans-to-fund-a-4-7b-corporate-handout/wcm/e692c492-66f5-4895-9d1d-f53d7323618e?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1572442472

Macfury
Nov 2nd, 2019, 04:07 PM
Statements such as this reveal the perversity of the "progressive" mind. Deciding to take less in tax is a "handout" because the income of people and companies does not actually belong to those who earned it--it apparently belongs only to the government.

A sweet moment to watch Notley seething as her "work" is undone.

SINC
Nov 2nd, 2019, 04:19 PM
Geez accepting Notley bull is troubling, especially when it was she who created the whole friggin' mess. I can do nothing but ignore anything the ex premier, now an unelected dummy by a whopping majority of us because she was a complete disaster type person. Just wish she would STFU since 90% of us never believed a word she uttered anyway.

Macfury
Nov 2nd, 2019, 04:30 PM
Geez accepting Notley bull is troubling, especially when it was she who created the whole friggin' mess. I can do nothing but ignore anything the ex premier, now an unelected dummy by a whopping majority of us because she was a complete disaster type person. Just wish she would STFU since 90% of us never believed a word she uttered anyway.

Only hard core progs are crying along with her.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 2nd, 2019, 04:40 PM
Statements such as this reveal the perversity of the "progressive" mind. Deciding to take less in tax is a "handout" because the income of people and companies does not actually belong to those who earned it--it apparently belongs only to the government.



A sweet moment to watch Notley seething as her "work" is undone.



Once again you miss the point.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 2nd, 2019, 04:41 PM
Geez accepting Notley bull is troubling, especially when it was she who created the whole friggin' mess. I can do nothing but ignore anything the ex premier, now an unelected dummy by a whopping majority of us because she was a complete disaster type person. Just wish she would STFU since 90% of us never believed a word she uttered anyway.



Plus, don’t forget she’s a WOMAN.

Macfury
Nov 2nd, 2019, 04:42 PM
What is the point you thought Notley was making here that I might be missing?

Once again you miss the point.

SINC
Nov 2nd, 2019, 04:48 PM
What is the point you thought Notley was making here that I might be missing?

Is the point you apparently missed that Notey wants the spending continued and Freddie buys the BS, perhaps?

Freddie_Biff
Nov 2nd, 2019, 05:10 PM
What is the point you thought Notley was making here that I might be missing?



Oh gee, I dunno. Perhaps that a $4.7 billion giveaway of taxpayer’s money to corporations is not a good investment especially if the budget is as tight as he claims it is.

Macfury
Nov 2nd, 2019, 06:01 PM
The $4.7 billion does not belong to the taxpayers. It belong to the corporation. Notley took it away from them.

Oh gee, I dunno. Perhaps that a $4.7 billion giveaway of taxpayer’s money to corporations is not a good investment especially if the budget is as tight as he claims it is.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 2nd, 2019, 06:14 PM
The $4.7 billion does not belong to the taxpayers. It belong to the corporation. Notley took it away from them.



???

SINC
Nov 2nd, 2019, 07:15 PM
The NDP and their supporters just don't get it.

eMacMan
Nov 2nd, 2019, 10:02 PM
The $4.7 billion does not belong to the taxpayers. It belong to the corporation. Notley took it away from them.

???


I've always shied away from calling other members commies, but seemingly in Freddie's mind corporate and presumably personal income belongs to the guv'ment except for whatever the bums in Edmonton chose to dole out.

FeXL
Nov 2nd, 2019, 10:08 PM
Freddie, the fact that she's a woman is probably the single least offensive thing about her.

Plus, don’t forget she’s a WOMAN.

Macfury
Nov 2nd, 2019, 11:17 PM
I've always shied away from calling other members commies, but seemingly in Freddie's mind corporate and presumably personal income belongs to the guv'ment except for whatever the bums in Edmonton chose to dole out.

Of course, when Ralph Klein inflicted that "40% pay cut" it was a special case. That money had to be given back to him, because it didn't belong to the taxpayer. What a hypocrite!

FeXL
Nov 8th, 2019, 10:54 AM
It's a start. :clap:

Alberta to protect citizens from civil suits who defend their land with force (https://www.thepostmillennial.com/alberta-to-protect-citizens-from-civil-suits-who-defend-their-land-with-force/)

Alberta is making changes to the law that will prevent property owners from being sued if they injure a criminal on their property. These amendments will be introduced imminently, making Alberta’s legislation on this matter retroactive to the start of 2018, according to Global News.

eMacMan
Nov 8th, 2019, 01:58 PM
It's a start. :clap:

Alberta to protect citizens from civil suits who defend their land with force (https://www.thepostmillennial.com/alberta-to-protect-citizens-from-civil-suits-who-defend-their-land-with-force/)

While I support the general idea. Retroactive legislation is always an incredibly bad idea.

For example, how easy it would be to pass retroactive legislation making it a crime to criticize the current government. Penalty being a $100,000 fine and/or 5 years in jail. By the time the supreme court or the next government got around to reversing the law. A lot of people would have chewed through their life savings and many more would be rotting in jail.

Since this is one case legislation far better for the government to support the legal costs of the defendant rather than making the legislation retroactive.

FeXL
Nov 8th, 2019, 02:48 PM
Since this is one case legislation far better for the government to support the legal costs of the defendant rather than making the legislation retroactive.

Can you imagine the hue & cry from the left if the gov't paid legal costs for property owners currently in court for defending their family & property?

eMacMan
Nov 19th, 2019, 07:19 PM
Well Kenney seems to be trodding the well worn path to total corruption. A path blazed by previous Conmen and then the NDP.
https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/keith-gerein-brazen-firing-of-investigator-shows-ucp-believes-it-is-immune-to-political-fallout


For a premier who conveyed considerable outrage at the former NDP government for failing to mention a carbon tax in its 2015 election platform, Jason Kenney has sure shown a lot of indifference toward sticking to his own election playbook (https://www.albertastrongandfree.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Alberta-Strong-and-Free-Platform-1.pdf).

“The biggest lie in Alberta history,” was how Kenney characterized the carbon tax omission.
It was a hyperbolic statement to be sure, effectively designed to win votes, but one that must now be weighed against the UCP government’s own catalogue of detours.

The freeze of income tax brackets, cancellation of increases to AISH recipients, and consolidation of pensions all fall into this category, to name a few.

Then came Monday’s whopper, in which the government announced its intention to fire the province’s election commissioner — a supposedly independent officer of the legislature (https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/keith-gerein-ucps-budget-axe-must-spare-albertas-auditor-commissioners-and-advocates) — who is likely still in the midst of an investigation into the UCP leadership race, with no guarantee the work will continue.

If Kenney intended to create a contender for the title he previously gave to the NDP carbon levy, he certainly succeeded — but not just for the political self-interest at play here.

When a government charges ahead with a move as seemingly brazen as this, it can indicate only one thing. Alberta is now being governed by those who have lost any fear of political fallout, a machine that has come to interpret its election mandate as a blank cheque to do whatever it wants, no matter the optics, the cost to accountability, or the threat to democracy itself.

SINC
Nov 19th, 2019, 07:51 PM
As someone who voted for the Kenney government, I will openly admit that he is on the wrong path and a very risky one.

I fear I made a huge mistake in trusting him and so do most Albertans I speak with who voted for him. Every move he makes is making division in this province much worse.

You don't seize union pensions and make friends when it was totally unnecessary. You don't fire a government appointee who is investigation your very own election campaign to be leader long before the election to make you premier. You don't open wounds with legislation that is totally unnecessary to address abortion or right to die when it is already clearly defined under current law.

In short, when you turn into an ass whole, you lose the confidence of the people in six short months.

The man is mad.

Macfury
Nov 19th, 2019, 08:38 PM
But still better than Notley!

Freddie_Biff
Nov 19th, 2019, 08:51 PM
As someone who voted for the Kenney government, I will openly admit that he is on the wrong path and a very risky one.



I fear I made a huge mistake in trusting him and so do most Albertans I speak with who voted for him. Every move he makes is making division in this province much worse.



You don't seize union pensions and make friends when it was totally unnecessary. You don't fire a government appointee who is investigation your very own election campaign to be leader long before the election to make you premier. You don't open wounds with legislation that is totally unnecessary to address abortion or right to die when it is already clearly defined under current law.



In short, when you turn into an ass whole, you lose the confidence of the people in six short months.



The man is mad.



I’ve considered Kenney to be an ass whole for quite some time. He is acting like a tyrant. Strange that there is something we can agree on, but you’re right on the money here.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 19th, 2019, 08:52 PM
But still better than Notley!



How? What has he done that is actually good for the province?

Macfury
Nov 19th, 2019, 08:52 PM
Notley acted like a tyrant, but you liked the direction she was taking you in.

I’ve considered Kenney to be an ass whole for quite some time. He is acting like a tyrant. Strange that there is something we can agree on, but you’re right on the money here.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 19th, 2019, 11:30 PM
Notley acted like a tyrant, but you liked the direction she was taking you in.



Again, what has Kenney done that is actually good for the province?

Freddie_Biff
Nov 20th, 2019, 12:35 AM
Not the makings of an ethical leader. This is what former PC Thomas Lucaszek has to say...


Via Thomas Lukaszuk

Today, Alberta joined the ranks of rogue states, led by a strong man who acts is if he was above the law.

With an Omnibus Bill, normally intended for miscellaneous government business, Kenney grabbed control of billions of dollars of public investments, such as your public pension plans and employers’ WCB premiums. This shift gives Kenney and his Treasury Board complete authority over where and how these funds are invested.

At the same time, using the same Bill 22, Kenney merged the Wildrose, PC and UCP parties to avoid a scandal that you’ll be reading about shortly. Few Albertans realized that Kenney, as still the leader of the Wildrose, PC and UCP parties (all at once), in the last election, actually ran candidates of the three parties against each other in one riding. A corrupt, although technically legal practice usually associated with rogue leaders.

Lastly, using the same Omnibus Bill, Kenney dissolves the Office of the Election Commissioner in the middle of a robust and unprecedented investigation of the fraudulent UCP leadership race that made Kenney the leader. This unfinished investigation already resulted in nearly $220,000 in fines levied to some of Kenney’s close supporters.

With the new debate closure rules introduced by Kenney in the Alberta Legislature, opposition MLAs will barely have 2 hours to debate all these draconian changes.

Now, Kenney also threatens not to renew the RCMP policing contract, while his UCP leadership race, his supporters, MPs and MLAs are investigated by RCMP for possible criminal infractions.

This is what a vote for Kenney resulted in, and he’s not done yet.

Macfury
Nov 20th, 2019, 12:37 AM
Repealed the carbon tax, restored competitive corporate tax rates, public inquiry into anti-Alberta energy campaigns, war room to fight misinformation related to oil and gas, 2.8 per cent spending cut over term of office, plans to cut public sector employment by 7.7%.

Again, what has Kenney done that is actually good for the province?

Freddie_Biff
Nov 20th, 2019, 12:41 AM
Repealed the carbon tax, restored competitive corporate tax rates, public inquiry into anti-Alberta energy campaigns, war room to fight misinformation related to oil and gas, 2.8 per cent spending cut over term of office, plans to cut public sector employment by 7.7%.



Public sector employment includes MY employment. I have a problem with that, all to justify his $4.7 billion tax cut to corporations. I’m not seeing any new jobs to justify this waste of taxpayers’ money.

Macfury
Nov 20th, 2019, 12:57 AM
The public sector in Alberta is bloated. Why shouldn't it be trimmed? The $4.7 billion is not "taxpayer money." It is money temporarily confiscated from corporations by Notley and returned to them by Kenney. If the $4.7 billion belongs to the taxpayers, then why were you complaining about the Klein teachers' union wage cuts? By your argument, Klein was only returning the taxpayers' money to the taxpayer.

Public sector employment includes MY employment. I have a problem with that, all to justify his $4.7 billion tax cut to corporations. I’m not seeing any new jobs to justify this waste of taxpayers’ money.

SINC
Nov 20th, 2019, 03:00 AM
Not the makings of an ethical leader. This is what former PC Thomas Lucaszek has to say...

Thomas Lucaszek is a bigger ass whole than Kenney by a mile.

FeXL
Nov 20th, 2019, 10:25 AM
Q1: So you were onside with Red Rachel's hiring of 60,000 additional public servants because they were "new jobs" and not merely a "waste of taxpayers’ money"?

Q2: Have you personally seen an improvement or talked to anyone else who has seen an improvement in provincial gov't services with the addition of all those bodies?

I’m not seeing any new jobs to justify this waste of taxpayers’ money.

Macfury
Nov 21st, 2019, 10:09 AM
Freddie, still waiting on your answer. If the income of corporations belongs to the taxpayer, who does your income belong to?

FeXL
Nov 21st, 2019, 10:15 AM
Curious how Freddie disappears for weeks at a time when pointed questions are directed his way...

Freddie_Biff
Nov 21st, 2019, 02:06 PM
Freddie, still waiting on your answer. If the income of corporations belongs to the taxpayer, who does your income belong to?



I don’t bother with nonsensical questions.

Macfury
Nov 21st, 2019, 02:33 PM
You don't bother answering questions where you've already painted yourself into a corner!

I don’t bother with nonsensical questions.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 21st, 2019, 02:40 PM
You don't bother answering questions where you've already painted yourself into a corner!



Believe what you want to believe, Macfury. I doubt that I could ever change your mind anyway.

FeXL
Nov 21st, 2019, 03:06 PM
A well-researched, solid argument based on facts would go a long way towards that. However, I'm guessing those are in somewhat short supply... ;)

I doubt that I could ever change your mind anyway.

Macfury
Nov 21st, 2019, 03:07 PM
I didn't ask you to change my mind. I asked you whether the money used to pay public salaries belongs to the taxpayer.

Believe what you want to believe, Macfury. I doubt that I could ever change your mind anyway.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 21st, 2019, 10:43 PM
S’more reaction to Jason Kenney’s Bill 22: calling card of the ass whole.

Keith Gerein: Tone deaf decisions could see Kenney's political capital dry up sooner than he thinks

Keith GereinUpdated: November 21, 2019

Premier Jason Kenney took a trip to Texas this week, where he has been talking to energy leaders in the hopes of drawing increased investment in Alberta’s oil sector.

That’s an important mission, but instead of focusing solely on the health of the province’s wells, the premier may soon want to ask how deep his own well of political capital goes.

It seems a fitting question to ask given the events of the past couple of weeks, in which Kenney and his government have been drawing heavily against that capital with a number of tone-deaf decisions.

Worse, the premier hasn’t exactly shown remorse for any of it, leaving one to wonder what it might take to convince him that the well could be starting to run dry.

You’d have thought a tough budget would have been enough controversy for one session, but that proved to be just tip of the iceberg.

First came Kenney’s struggles to justify why his government needed a $16,764 charter plane to fly around a handful of conservative premiers, their wives and political staffers.

Then came the revelation that Kenney’s principal adviser, David Knight Legg, filed some $18,000 worth of expenses for four separate trips to London, followed by a pair of conflict of interest allegations involving the man leading the public inquiry into anti-Alberta energy campaigns.

Of course, all of this was topped by the shocker of Bill 22, which aims to abruptly terminate election commissioner Lorne Gibson in the midst of an investigation into the UCP, and offer no guarantee that his work will continue.

Alberta government introduces Farm Freedom and Safety…


Though hardly a scientific poll, the response to Bill 22 on social media and elsewhere has been both overwhelming and indicates much of the public doesn’t believe the government’s defence of the bill as necessary to save money and put Alberta in alignment with other provinces — nor its assertion that the investigations will proceed under a new model.

However I’ve noticed many of these messages carry not just anger, but also sentiments of helplessness, a belief that there is nothing anyone can do to prevent the Kenney government from doing a blatantly impudent end-run around accountability.

On this front, the NDP opposition has been scrounging through its entire bag of procedural tricks, and inventing some new ones.

The most dramatic was leader Rachel Notley getting herself thrown out of the chamber after accusing UCP house leader Jason Nixon of misleading the house on the intent of Bill 22.

Other unusual moves included a letter to the lieutenant-governor urging her not to give royal assent, and a request to the ethics commissioner to ban all UCP MLAs from voting by declaring them to be to be in a conflict of interest.

We also learned from the NDP this week that Gibson is scheduled to appear before the all-party legislative offices committee on Nov. 29 — Black Friday, as it turns out.

However, that may prove to be too late if the UCP is intent on having him removed this week, which raises the question of what they fear Gibson might say.

As such, the NDP members of the committee are now asking to hold an emergency meeting to hear from the commissioner before he is fired.

And if that doesn’t work, the NDP is also demanding an emergency meeting of a different committee —the public accounts committee — to hear from Gibson there.

As for Gibson himself, he has also tried to intervene despite being limited by strict non-disclosure rules. In a carefully worded letter, he championed the value of having an independent commissioner by noting that his office has received some 800 complaints of election law breaches.

All of this makes for a great show and helps keep the controversy on the front burner, but in the end, there is a negligible chance any of this will make a difference with the government. The UCP can dismiss Gibson’s concern as self interest and the NDP’s moves as a laughably partisan reach.

Ultimately, when a government starts behaving as if it is above the law and regards democratic principles as optional, opposition needs to come from the public — particularly those who helped to put that government in power.

Over the long term, this could involve threats to cut off donations, holding rallies or gathering signatures on a petition. Down the road, the UCP’s plan to create recall legislation may provide a further option.

However, none of those actions will have the immediate effect needed in this case, given the UCP’s intent to have Bill 22 passed as hurriedly as possible.

Instead, for those Albertans who are disturbed by their government’s behaviour, I encourage them to directly contact their MLA and do so quickly, and with passion.

Appeal to them as human beings. Assume that they got into politics full of idealism and a desire to serve the public, and then ask them if Bill 22 was what they had in mind.

The best chance Albertans have to get this government to back off is to ensure they understand that the consequence of silencing Gibson will be worse than whatever consequence results from letting him do his job.

Kenney needs to be reminded that he does not have a bottomless well of political capital, and that at some point soon his account will start to become overdrawn.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/keith-gerein-tone-deaf-decisions-could-see-kenneys-political-capital-dry-up-sooner-than-he-thinks

Macfury
Nov 22nd, 2019, 12:34 AM
Does the money used to pay public sector salaries belong to the taxpayers?

S’more reaction to Jason Kenney’s Bill 22: calling card of the ass whole.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 22nd, 2019, 02:44 AM
Does the money used to pay public sector salaries belong to the taxpayers?



What does your question have to do with the article? You seem to be willfully ignorant.

Macfury
Nov 22nd, 2019, 11:38 AM
I'm ignorant of one piece of information. Does the money used to pay public sector salaries belong to the taxpayers?

What does your question have to do with the article? You seem to be willfully ignorant.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 22nd, 2019, 02:10 PM
Broken record. Boring.

And for the record, no it doesn’t.

SINC
Nov 22nd, 2019, 02:52 PM
I'm ignorant of one piece of information. Does the money used to pay public sector salaries belong to the taxpayers?

Broken record. Boring.

And for the record, no it doesn’t.

All public sector employees are paid from the government's revenue stream source, ie: taxpayers. That is an irrefutable fact.

Those funds do indeed belong to the taxpayers, who entrust their government to oversee its dispersal. Once the funds are paid to public sector employees, it becomes the property of the individual employee. Simple enough for anyone to comprehend.

18m2
Nov 22nd, 2019, 03:18 PM
Those funds do indeed belong to the taxpayers,

I disagree. The monies collected from all the varied sources available to governments are the property of the government and no longer the taxpayer. Tax revenues are a small part of Alberta's revenue but other provinces have a larger proportion of revenue from a variety of taxes.

A fine point sure enough but the generalization that government money belongs to us is erroneous.

Have you ever tried to ask them for some of the money? Good luck with that!

Macfury
Nov 22nd, 2019, 03:20 PM
All public sector employees are paid from the government's revenue stream source, ie: taxpayers. That is an irrefutable fact.

Those funds do indeed belong to the taxpayers, who entrust their government to oversee its dispersal.


Exactly. Once Ralph Klein reversed teachers pay increase, that money became taxpayer money again. Freddie wants it both ways: business income belongs to taxpayers, but his income belongs to him alone. Pure hypocrisy!

SINC
Nov 22nd, 2019, 03:31 PM
The UCP can start using this against Red Rachel any time now.

Damning investigations into AER show NDP was asleep at the pump jack

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/keith-gerein-damning-investigations-into-aer-show-ndp-was-asleep-at-the-pump-jack?fbclid=IwAR0iDvp76KVKHwphIGJWzQpMN9MmsB0p2d2p nfsekGOCjIEGQgVKyOqrGLQ

FeXL
Nov 22nd, 2019, 03:56 PM
A fine point sure enough but the generalization that government money belongs to us is erroneous.

And I disagree with that. Years ago, when Albertans got their "Ralph bucks" cheques, Klein was merely returning to us what was rightly ours in the first place.

In addition, it's my tax $$$ that pay public service wages & salaries. As such, to a greater (counsellor, mayor, MLA, Premiere, MP, Groper McBlackface, nurses, doctors, etc.) or lesser (teachers) extent, they work for me.

FeXL
Nov 22nd, 2019, 03:57 PM
A fine point sure enough but the generalization that government money belongs to us is erroneous.

And I disagree with that. Years ago, when Albertans got their "Ralph bucks" cheques, Klein was merely returning to us what was rightly ours in the first place.

In addition, it's my tax $$$ that pay public service wages & salaries. As such, to a greater (counsellor, mayor, MLA, Premiere, MP, Blackie McGropeoplekind, nurses, doctors, etc.) or lesser (teachers) extent, they work for me.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 22nd, 2019, 04:54 PM
All public sector employees are paid from the government's revenue stream source, ie: taxpayers. That is an irrefutable fact.

Those funds do indeed belong to the taxpayers, who entrust their government to oversee its dispersal. Once the funds are paid to public sector employees, it becomes the property of the individual employee. Simple enough for anyone to comprehend.

You neglect to understand that teachers are also taxpayers.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 22nd, 2019, 04:57 PM
I disagree. The monies collected from all the varied sources available to governments are the property of the government and no longer the taxpayer. Tax revenues are a small part of Alberta's revenue but other provinces have a larger proportion of revenue from a variety of taxes.

A fine point sure enough but the generalization that government money belongs to us is erroneous.

Have you ever tried to ask them for some of the money? Good luck with that!

A simple concept that it is surprising how many people here do not understand it, starting with broken record Macfury.

Macfury
Nov 22nd, 2019, 06:06 PM
If you quit your job today, would the government have less tax money or more? Simple answer: your entire salary could now be redeployed. You don't contribute to the tax base--you subtract from it.

You neglect to understand that teachers are also taxpayers.

Macfury
Nov 22nd, 2019, 06:08 PM
I disagree. The monies collected from all the varied sources available to governments are the property of the government and no longer the taxpayer. Tax revenues are a small part of Alberta's revenue but other provinces have a larger proportion of revenue from a variety of taxes.

A fine point sure enough but the generalization that government money belongs to us is erroneous.

Have you ever tried to ask them for some of the money? Good luck with that!

If you believe that, then you would also disagree with Freddie, who says that the $4.7 billion no longer collected under corporate tax was money that belongs to the taxpayer.

SINC
Nov 22nd, 2019, 08:04 PM
You neglect to understand that teachers are also taxpayers.

C'mon Frank, that is obvious and does nothing to change the facts. Do you teach your students that kind of misinformation?

Freddie_Biff
Nov 23rd, 2019, 02:20 AM
C'mon Frank, that is obvious and does nothing to change the facts. Do you teach your students that kind of misinformation?


Macfury seems to think teachers are not taxpayers. Take the faulty logic up with him.

FeXL
Nov 23rd, 2019, 10:11 AM
Feel free to cite the exact passage wherein MF noted that.

Be specific.

Macfury seems to think teachers are not taxpayers.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 23rd, 2019, 11:26 AM
Yup. This bone-headed move will make sure doctors are onside with the UCP government. Talk about tone deaf.

Alberta government giving itself the power to tell new doctors where they must work in province

The government argues that the problem in Alberta isn’t the supply of doctors (as it is in other provinces) but rather an issue of distributing them

Tyler DawsonUpdated: November 21, 2019

The government argues that the problem in Alberta isn’t the supply of doctors (as it is in other provinces) but rather an issue of distributing them

EDMONTON — In a bid to address doctor shortages in some areas, the Alberta government is in the process of giving itself the power to tell new doctors where they must go if they want to practise medicine in this province, a move those in the profession are roundly condemning.

It’s a plan that has been tried in other provinces, not altogether successfully, and is just one of a suite of ideas that have been floated through government circles as ways to address doctor shortages.

“We need to take a new approach to ensure new physicians practise where they’re most needed,” said a statement from Tyler Shandro, the health minister.

Under the proposed legislation, the distribution and assignment of required permits from Alberta Health will be based on geography, whether to rural areas or, perhaps, urban areas with a physician shortage.

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It will, the government says, apply only to new doctors — not those currently practising, or resident and medical students — and an expert panel will help determine where doctors need to be sent.

“It’s a 1970s solution for a 21st-century problem,” said Christine Molnar, the president of the Alberta Medical Association. “I would have left, like, when I graduated. I had opportunities across Canada and in the United States. Why would you stay here in this environment that is not supportive, that is introducing a level of uncertainty and risk? Why would you stay here?”

The government argues that the issue in Alberta isn’t the supply of doctors (as it is in other provinces) but rather an issue of distributing them. So there isn’t an easy comparison, it says, to other attempts at such a system. The government says it will continue other programs, such as those that “expose medical students and residents to rural practice.”

Molnar said many new doctors are concerned that, as small business owners, they will have a tough time planning for an uncertain future and it even feels like they won’t get to choose their own co-workers in small communities or clinics. “Maybe that’ll be part of the restrictions, but we don’t know,” Molnar said.

Tuffy trots into Calgary hotel keeping annual…


It's a 1970s solution for a 21st-century problem

The experience in other provinces has been mixed.

In Quebec, for example, which has used a permitting system since 2004, a clinic in Montreal shut down after 40 years because five of the 10 doctors retired, and there were no permits available to the clinic to replace them.

It closed its doors, leaving 12,000 Montrealers without a family doctor.

As of last spring, nearly 137,000 people were waiting for a doctor in the city, the Montreal Gazette reported, with average wait times for a new doctor hovering between 205 days and 499 days, depending on the level of risk to the patient. Indeed, in response, Montreal lawyers had announced they would take the government to court over the system.

In New Brunswick, a similar system didn’t work at all, said Anthony Knight, head of the New Brunswick Medical Society, and it is coming to an end in mid-December.

“It has not worked. It has not benefited rural communities,” said Knight. “To move to this system would, I think, be a mistake.”

In addition to the question of whether it worked practically, he also said there’s a large increase in government bureaucracy and red tape that’s needed to administer such a system. Alberta is in the process of actually trying to eliminate red tape.


“You end up hiring more civil servants with clipboards managing doctors than you do hiring doctors,” said Knight.

He said that waiting for the bureaucracy to make decisions about doctor placements meant eligible and enthusiastic doctors often found work elsewhere.

“I fear that for Alberta, too.”

David Shepherd, the NDP health critic, said he’s heard from medical students who are in their residency who are concerned about this change.

“In general this does not appear to be a policy that I think is going to be helpful in resolving what we acknowledge is a real issue,” Shepherd said. “This is a policy that has failed in the other jurisdiction where it has been tried.”

The proposed changes, which are now before the Alberta legislature, would not go into effect until April of 2022.

• Email: [email protected] | Twitter: tylerrdawson

https://calgaryherald.com/news/alberta-government-giving-itself-the-power-to-tell-new-doctors-where-they-must-work-in-province/wcm/b5eae3b3-aa35-4a39-8e4e-5341b0a1627b?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1574392985

Macfury
Nov 23rd, 2019, 11:47 AM
They work for the government and they're being required to work at a specific location for a specific length of time. That's how your socialism works.

Yup. This bone-headed move will make sure doctors are onside with the UCP government. Talk about tone deaf.



https://calgaryherald.com/news/alberta-government-giving-itself-the-power-to-tell-new-doctors-where-they-must-work-in-province/wcm/b5eae3b3-aa35-4a39-8e4e-5341b0a1627b?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1574392985

Freddie_Biff
Nov 23rd, 2019, 12:05 PM
They work for the government and they're being required to work at a specific location for a specific length of time. That's how your socialism works.



So now you’re claiming the UCP are socialist?

Macfury
Nov 23rd, 2019, 12:11 PM
Publicly-funded health care is socialist.

So now you’re claiming the UCP are socialist?

Freddie_Biff
Nov 23rd, 2019, 01:40 PM
Publicly-funded health care is socialist.



Point being? The NDP never demanded that doctors had to work at specific locations once they stated working. Sounds like something else to me. Authoritarianism perhaps.

Macfury
Nov 23rd, 2019, 02:44 PM
The government is their employer. The UCP knows it can't change this socialist program--but they can make it run more efficiently. The NDP didnt care about how the money was spent.

Point being? The NDP never demanded that doctors had to work at specific locations once they stated working. Sounds like something else to me. Authoritarianism perhaps.

FeXL
Nov 23rd, 2019, 07:50 PM
The point is that it's easy to get a doctor to live/work in populated areas like a city. It's much more difficult to get them to move to smaller, lightly populated rural areas. In the small town of 900 I grew up in, for example, for years they had a sign alongside the highway passing through town noting, "Doctor wanted".

Point being? The NDP never demanded that doctors had to work at specific locations once they stated working.

Freddie_Biff
Nov 23rd, 2019, 08:47 PM
The point is that it's easy to get a doctor to live/work in populated areas like a city. It's much more difficult to get them to move to smaller, lightly populated rural areas. In the small town of 900 I grew up in, for example, for years they had a sign alongside the highway passing through town noting, "Doctor wanted".



In that case you need to offer them an incentive for taking a small town job, not punish them if they don’t. How does it benefit the province if they opt to go somewhere else entirely?

Macfury
Nov 23rd, 2019, 10:10 PM
Once the government stops paying doctors' salaries, then let the free market set their salaries. They can then open offices wherever they want.

In that case you need to offer them an incentive for taking a small town job, not punish them if they don’t. How does it benefit the province if they opt to go somewhere else entirely?

FeXL
Nov 24th, 2019, 10:28 AM
I'm not one for more gov't interference in anyone's life but there are conditions governing employment worldwide.

As such, if you want your MD, you put time in rural health care as a condition thereof.

'Sides, offering incentives? That doesn't sound very socialist of you, Freddie...

In that case you need to offer them an incentive for taking a small town job, not punish them if they don’t. How does it benefit the province if they opt to go somewhere else entirely?

Macfury
Nov 24th, 2019, 10:39 AM
I'm not one for more gov't interference in anyone's life but there are conditions governing employment worldwide.

As such, if you want your MD, you put time in rural health care as a condition thereof.

'Sides, offering incentives? That doesn't sound very socialist of you, Freddie...

That's the crux of it. Freddie wants their generous salaries paid by government, and then invokes the free market of incentives when socialism doesn't deliver.

Remember also that medical associations set the number of MDs graduating each year, so they can artificially squeeze supply. If that pact were upended, a larger supply of doctors would see some of them forced to begin their careers in these remote areas.

eMacMan
Nov 24th, 2019, 11:28 AM
That's the crux of it. Freddie wants their generous salaries paid by government, and then invokes the free market of incentives when socialism doesn't deliver.

Remember also that medical associations set the number of MDs graduating each year, so they can artificially squeeze supply. If that pact were upended, a larger supply of doctors would see some of them forced to begin their careers in these remote areas.

I live in a small rural community. One that thankfully is blessed with a surplus of doctors. Big advantage is that when I make an appointment the doc sees me right on time and always allows enough time to discuss any issues I may have. I know that the docs who have chosen to work here also appreciate the more relaxed working conditions.

Disadvantage if/when something serious arises I will be shuffled off to a major population center.

Those docs who love working in a pressure cooker should absolutely be free to work out of a big city.

SINC
Nov 24th, 2019, 11:54 AM
I live in a small rural community. One that thankfully is blessed with a surplus of doctors. Big advantage is that when I make an appointment the doc sees me right on time and always allows enough time to discuss any issues I may have. I know that the docs who have chosen to work here also appreciate the more relaxed working conditions.

Disadvantage if/when something serious arises I will be shuffled off to a major population center.

Those docs who love working in a pressure cooker should absolutely be free to work out of a big city.

Yeah kinda like here. Lots of GPs but none have hospital privileges so all they can do if something is urgent is send you to emergency for a 6-8 hour wait. One clinic here now is doing much more like sewing up cuts and do so on a walk in basis which helps.

Macfury
Nov 24th, 2019, 11:58 AM
Disadvantage if/when something serious arises I will be shuffled off to a major population center.

There's the trade-off of living in a rural area. Specialty care is available, but only if you travel a bit.

18m2
Nov 24th, 2019, 02:10 PM
My Dr. also works part time at the emergency department at our local hospital. It's only happened once where he has been called away for an emergency when I have scheduled appointment but coverage was supplied by his wife who is also a Dr. I like them both. We are lucky. The specialist I see is in Victoria which is roughly a 35 minute drive.

eMacMan
Nov 24th, 2019, 03:34 PM
Yeah kinda like here. Lots of GPs but none have hospital privileges so all they can do if something is urgent is send you to emergency for a 6-8 hour wait. One clinic here now is doing much more like sewing up cuts and do so on a walk in basis which helps.


Cuts and broken bones are par for the course here, the local ski hill and the hospital have a symbiotic relationship. Had a hernia operation done locally. I was referring to some of the bigger stuff like heart, kidney and liver. Or eyes beyond the routine eye exams and lens prescriptions.

SINC
Dec 3rd, 2019, 04:04 AM
The UPC could just cut salaries at Alberta Health Services and not affect care at all.

Here's your top 40 or so Annual Avg Compensation by Role for AHS 2018

CubaMark
Dec 3rd, 2019, 10:45 AM
The UPC could just cut salaries at Alberta Health Services and not affect care at all.

Here's your top 40 or so Annual Avg Compensation by Role for AHS 2018

What's the source for that, Don? Those salaries are simply insane....

SINC
Dec 3rd, 2019, 03:13 PM
What's the source for that, Don? Those salaries are simply insane....

Mark, I found it after following some links from this CBC story:

Top public sector earners revealed in annual Alberta sunshine list

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/top-public-sector-earners-revealed-in-annual-alberta-sunshine-list-1.5197850

Damned if I can duplicate it now, but it was posted as part of a discussion exchange regarding the story by a reader.

The interesting thing about the chart is that the CBC story says:

Dr. Verna Yiu, president and CEO of Alberta Health Services, and Patrick Dumelie, president of Covenant Health, also made the top 10.

Yiu earned $576,856 in salary and $78,769 in non-taxable benefits last year for a total of $655,625 in compensation. If you compare that to the first positon in the image, (Yiu's), posted again below, the numbers are identical from CBC and the image list which led me to believe the salaries are real.

Interesting to note that the salaries were approved by Notley and her NDP party, who claimed to have reduced salaries to save money.

And yes, they are incredible and a huge waste of public money.

FeXL
Dec 3rd, 2019, 04:06 PM
Interesting to note that the salaries were approved by Notley and her NDP party, who claimed to have reduced salaries to save money.

She had to pay for those extra 60,000 public service NDP-voting hires somehow...

SINC
Dec 4th, 2019, 01:45 AM
More on the AHS salary issue and why the UCP wants to trim management expenses.

I finally traced back the info on the chart above from that CBC story to its source on Facebook. I do not know who the author is, but this guy has certainly done his homework and supports it all with many more images of AHS material from government websites.

No wonder Alberta Health Services has failed the people of this province by mismanagement. This is criminal and needs to be fixed, but unions are demanding an 8% increase in their pay alone.

Here is what he had to say at this link to the support documents:

https://www.facebook.com/100000425689822/posts/2814265678597594?d=n&sfns=mo

Let’s talk numbers!! With all the recent news from the Nurses Union that 500-750 nurses could be laid off in the next 3 years by Alberta Health Services (AHS). Let’s talk about the REAL problem.

The Alberta Government has increased the Health-care Budget by $201 million this year to a total of $20.6 Billion. That is 35% of the entire $58.7-billion Alberta Budget. They report Health spending is the largest expenditure in Alberta, accounting for about 43 per cent of the province's total operating costs but I couldn’t confirm that 43 per cent for this Facebook post.

The problem is not the nurses; the problem is AHS Executive, Management and poor management of expenses. AHS 2018-19 Alberta Health Services Annual Report actuals show that they have spent $8.322 Billion on Salaries & Benefits or 41% of their Budget. $2.762 Billion on Contracts with Health Service Providers or 14% of their Budget. $1.381 Billion on other Contracted Services or .07% of their Budget and an additional $18 Million on Contracts under the Health Care Protection Act. This totals to 61% of their entire 2018-2019 Budget.

AHS President and CEO Dr Verna Yiu made $676,000 plus an additional $49,000 in supplemental Pension Plan & Retirement Plan in 2018. 2019 numbers are not released yet obviously. To put that into prospective, The Prime Minister of Canada makes $357,800. A Member of Parliament (MP) makes $172,700. The Alberta Premier makes $186,170 after his 10% reduction (was $206,856). An Alberta MLA makes $120,931 after their 5% reduction (was $127,296).

17 of the top AHS Executives made $6,085,000 plus an additionally $366,000 for their Executive Supplemental Pension Plan and Supplemental Retirement Plan. There are 11 people that sit on the AHS Board that receive a total of $311,000 additionally to their normal incomes. That number is to rise to $334,000 for 2019. Then there is 77 Senior AHS Leadership Positions (EVP, SVP1, SVP2, VP1, VP2) that make a minimum of $146,000-$375,500 and that rises to a maximum of $264,000-$643,750. Compare that once again to what the Prime Minister of Canada, the Alberta Premier, Canadian MP’s and Alberta MLA’s make stated above. There are many claims regarding the ridiculous ratio of employee to managers. Some say 1 manager for every 5 employees and we’ve recently heard 1 to 3. Plus those managers have managers.

So now look at the proposal from the Province. The Province is suggesting a 2.8% reduction in wage. That equals to savings of $233,016,000/year or $932,064,000/4 years in just Salaries. Remember this is just AHS, not the entire Public Sector. If the average Nurse makes $75,000 Base (RN $68,700-$98,780 base salary), that means that savings equal the cost of 3,106 RN’s or even more if you include LPN. Alberta Nurses work an average of 26% Overtime as it stands right now. Of course Overtime means more costs to the overhead which doesn’t make sense on why not hire more staff. So why is AHS telling the Nurse’s Union that there will be potential layoffs? Of course it goes to the fact they are negotiating a new deal agreement between AHS, the United Nurses of Alberta, the Health Services Association of Alberta and the Alberta Union of Provincial Employees. The Nurses are just a bargaining pawn for AHS and that’s really unfortunately for them.

The Unions are asking for 7-8% increase. Let’s do the math; an 8% increase would equal an additional $665,760,000/year or $2.663 Billion/4 years in Salaries just to Health Care, not counting the other Public Sectors. Some Union agreements have clauses written in them that if 1 other Union gets a raise, they get a raise automatically to match as well. So imagine the ripple effect that this could cause for the Alberta Government and Alberta Taxpayers!!

Now remember that Alberta’s escalating deficits created a serious financial situation and a debt burden that has reached $62.7 billion for taxpayers and future generations of taxpayers. Debt servicing costs at the end of last year approached $2 billion (3% of Provincial Budget). Alberta spent more on interest payments to Banks & Bond Holders than on 17 out of 21 Government Ministries, including Justice and Solicitor General, Children’s Services, and Seniors and Housing.

See this isn’t about Nurses or Front Line workers and how important they are. AHS is deflecting the focus from their Executive and their inability to run efficiently. It’s about saving money in the next few years to get rid of the ridiculous $2 Billion going to Banks and Bond Holders when it should be going to Albertans and their needs!!!!! I for one cannot wait till the Ernst & Young comprehensive review is released in 2020. I can’t wait to hear what AHS has to say to defend their actions, out of control spending, mismanagement of expenses and their poor ability to run efficiently.

eMacMan
Dec 6th, 2019, 10:54 AM
As a general rule I view all polieticians as two faced liars. Here is a prime example Jason Kenny is going to increase rural RCMP staffing, but there is a catch!
https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/nice-initiative-or-waste-of-money-small-town-mayors-react-to-boost-in-rural-rcmp-officers
The UCP government announced Wednesday (https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/province-to-add-300-rural-rcmp-officers-with-municipalities-sharing-the-bill) that the number of rural RCMP officers in Alberta will grow from 1,600 to 1,900 by 2024. But as of next year, counties, municipal districts and small towns with fewer than 5,000 residents will begin paying 10 per cent of rural RCMP costs.


Their share will rise every year to reach 30 per cent of policing costs by 2023.
Seriously small town councils are often forced to choose between fixing potholes in the fall or plowing the streets over the winter. So Jason's Argonuts come up with a plan to increase the size of the detachments and increase the cost to the towns. $100,000+/year is no big deal in Calgary, however in a town of 5000 that is a $400/year tax increase on every resident.

The net effect will be fewer RCMP stationed in the small towns for the simple reason we cannot afford the additional cost.

Macfury
Dec 6th, 2019, 11:29 AM
As a general rule I view all polieticians as two faced liars. Here is a prime example Jason Kenny is going to increase rural RCMP staffing, but there is a catch!
https://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/nice-initiative-or-waste-of-money-small-town-mayors-react-to-boost-in-rural-rcmp-officers
Seriously small town councils are often forced to choose between fixing potholes in the fall or plowing the streets over the winter. So Jason's Argonuts come up with a plan to increase the size of the detachments and increase the cost to the towns. $100,000+/year is no big deal in Calgary, however in a town of 5000 that is a $400/year tax increase on every resident.

The net effect will be fewer RCMP stationed in the small towns for the simple reason we cannot afford the additional cost.

What formula would you use to determine how many police officers the province should provide to rural communities for free?

eMacMan
Dec 6th, 2019, 01:03 PM
What formula would you use to determine how many police officers the province should provide to rural communities for free?

This was Kenney's supposed response to very slow police response times in rural Alberta. However it will increase local costs even if no additional members are added. Therefore the net result will almost certainly be decreased rather than increased presence. IOW his fix is guaranteed to aggravate the problem.

Macfury
Dec 6th, 2019, 01:12 PM
This was Kenney's supposed response to very slow police response times in rural Alberta. However it will increase local costs even if no additional members are added. Therefore the net result will almost certainly be decreased rather than increased presence. IOW his fix is guaranteed to aggravate the problem.

I don't see a problem with charging the communities some price for providing an RCMP presence. The question is, how much do you think a small community should pay for policing.

Beej
Dec 6th, 2019, 03:12 PM
I don't see a problem with charging the communities some price for providing an RCMP presence. The question is, how much do you think a small community should pay for policing.

If that article is correct and they are paying nothing, that's quite rich.

I'd go with 70/30, with the locals paying 70%, maybe in increments of 10% per year. This could be done in conjunction with switching to a provincial police force and giving locals a more direct say in operations.

Beej
Dec 23rd, 2019, 12:28 PM
The tolerant and inclusive people in Alberta are trying to shame people who donated to the UCP.

https://www.facebook.com/ABAusterityAwards/

FeXL
Dec 23rd, 2019, 12:51 PM
The tolerant and inclusive people in Alberta are trying to shame people who donated to the UCP.

Interesting list. I'm not on Assbook and can't see the entire list but of the first 5 names shown, there are good reasons to dislike at least two, but none of them is because of their political affiliation...

Macfury
Dec 23rd, 2019, 01:02 PM
The tolerant and inclusive people in Alberta are trying to shame people who donated to the UCP.

https://www.facebook.com/ABAusterityAwards/

Looks to be having massive impact with some entries receiving 12 Shares and two Likes.

eMacMan
Dec 23rd, 2019, 01:14 PM
If that article is correct and they are paying nothing, that's quite rich.

I'd go with 70/30, with the locals paying 70%, maybe in increments of 10% per year. This could be done in conjunction with switching to a provincial police force and giving locals a more direct say in operations.

I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding as to how it works in small communities. In our area, almost all of the population covered by the local detachment, is contained within an area of ~50 sq KM. However their responsibility covers an area of about 5000 sq KM. Barney Fife could keep the peace in our 5 towns and have enough time leftover to set up a lucrative speed trap in the Frank Slide area.

The slow response is to the outlying areas which are mainly ranchers or farmers. Individuals who horror of horrors work hard for a living and are in many ways the backbone of the province, but certainly lack the fiscal wherewithal to pay for increased policing sufficient to reach them in a timely manner.

What Kenney is doing is downloading nearly the entire provincial share of that detachment onto the municipality, while assuring that coverage to outlying areas will be diminished, as the population of the small towns footing that bill will have to reduce the size of the detachment in order to make ends meet.

Beej
Dec 23rd, 2019, 01:27 PM
I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding as to how it works in small communities. In our area, almost all of the population covered by the local detachment, is contained within an area of ~50 sq KM. However their responsibility covers an area of about 5000 sq KM. Barney Fife could keep the peace in our 5 towns and have enough time leftover to set up a lucrative speed trap in the Frank Slide area.

The slow response is to the outlying areas which are mainly ranchers or farmers. Individuals who horror of horrors work hard for a living and are in many ways the backbone of the province, but certainly lack the fiscal wherewithal to pay for increased policing sufficient to reach them in a timely manner.

What Kenney is doing is downloading nearly the entire provincial share of that detachment onto the municipality, while assuring that coverage to outlying areas will be diminished, as the population of the small towns footing that bill will have to reduce the size of the detachment in order to make ends meet.

I don't see a misunderstanding. They are not entitled to having the rest of the province pay for their police. As a practical matter, I'm okay with some level of cross-subsidy for the common good. 30%, for example. Maybe someone could make a case for 50% provincial funding.

Macfury
Dec 23rd, 2019, 01:38 PM
What Kenney is doing is downloading nearly the entire provincial share of that detachment onto the municipality, while assuring that coverage to outlying areas will be diminished, as the population of the small towns footing that bill will have to reduce the size of the detachment in order to make ends meet.

It seems to me that if they can't afford rapid-response policing, then they have to choose between living there and moving to a place that has the police presence they're looking for. I lived part of my young adulthood in a rural area that had slow police response, but it seemed to be part of what everyone expected.

eMacMan
Dec 23rd, 2019, 02:25 PM
It seems to me that if they can't afford rapid-response policing, then they have to choose between living there and moving to a place that has the police presence they're looking for. I lived part of my young adulthood in a rural area that had slow police response, but it seemed to be part of what everyone expected.

Can't imagine the neighbours reaction to neighbour grazing a thousand head of cattle next door, but maybe they are more tolerant of that sort of thing out east. Also you average city lot just ain't gonna support the average ranch or farm.

Macfury
Dec 23rd, 2019, 02:49 PM
Can't imagine the neighbours reaction to neighbour grazing a thousand head of cattle next door, but maybe they are more tolerant of that sort of thing out east. Also you average city lot just ain't gonna support the average ranch or farm.

I was living in farming country at the time.

eMacMan
Dec 27th, 2019, 12:19 PM
One good thing Kenney has done was pull the provincial plug on the Calgary Green Line.

Somewhat related article here:
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/nelson-as-dirty-harry-advised-calgarys-got-to-know-its-limitations

FeXL
Jan 9th, 2020, 11:36 AM
Alberta energy minister fires back at ‘unelected, unaccountable’ UN for criticism of energy projects (https://globalnews.ca/news/6378559/alberta-energy-projects-savage-united-nations/)

Alberta’s energy minister says the United Nations is an unelected, unaccountable body that has no business criticizing Canada’s energy megaprojects.

Sonya Savage, in a statement, says that it’s the job of elected leaders, not the UN, to make decisions on how best to govern people and economies.

Beej
Jan 21st, 2020, 07:19 AM
Post-secondary funding model will be tied to performance measures, says minister
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/alberta-moves-to-outcomes-based-approach-to-post-secondary-funding

Nicolaides said 15 per cent of each school’s operational funding will be tied to performance measures to start, moving up to a maximum of 40 per cent by the 2022-23 academic year. Besides employment and income rates, international and domestic enrolment and administrative expense ratios are other performance measures the province says it might use. Funding agreements will be in place for three years instead of being renewed annually.

Makes sense. Apparently post-secondary funding was previously based on a whim, or maybe some hand waving and rhetorical flourishes.

eMacMan
Jan 21st, 2020, 11:50 AM
Post-secondary funding model will be tied to performance measures, says minister
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/alberta-moves-to-outcomes-based-approach-to-post-secondary-funding

Makes sense. Apparently post-secondary funding was previously based on a whim, or maybe some hand waving and rhetorical flourishes.

Actually after reading the article it makes almost no sense. Complete lack of definition as to what 'performance' means, but said definition is pretty much at the whim of the guvment.

Beej
Jan 22nd, 2020, 10:51 AM
said definition is pretty much at the whim of the guvment.

Yes, the provincial government intends to define performance standards for the provincial funding.

eMacMan
Jan 22nd, 2020, 12:50 PM
Yes, the provincial government intends to define performance standards for the provincial funding.

Which is OK if one is so totally brain dead that they would trust any provincial government.
Also wise to remember that in 4 years the Conmen may have done such an incredibly crappy job that the NDP will be able to rise from the ashes, and will then be defining performance standards.

Beej
Jan 22nd, 2020, 01:07 PM
Which is OK if one is so totally brain dead that they would trust any provincial government.
Also wise to remember that in 4 years the Conmen may have done such an incredibly crappy job that the NDP will be able to rise from the ashes, and will then be defining performance standards.


As opposed to the government having no performance standards. You're complaining about having performance standards instead of not having performance standards.

Trust issues are there regardless of party or standards. The same goes for incompetence -- always an issue.

FeXL
Jan 22nd, 2020, 01:52 PM
The same goes for incompetence -- always an issue.

Gov't incompetence: A feature, not a bug!

FeXL
Jan 29th, 2020, 11:10 AM
Huh. Where is the frustration & anger levelled at the Red Rachel for the exact same thing? Guess they were far too focussed on hiring 60,000 new voters, I mean, gov't employees. Look how that worked out...

'Extremely frustrated and angry:' Zero wage increases for teachers, nurses in arbitration rulings (https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/extremely-frustrated-and-angry-zero-wage-increases-for-teachers-nurses-in-arbitration-rulings)

Teachers and nurses will not be receiving any new wage increases after arbitration rulings came down Friday.

The rulings come after the Alberta Teachers’ Association and the United Nurses of Alberta were hoping for wage increases and the province sought a two to five per cent rollback.

“These independent public sector wage arbitration outcomes reflect the current economic realities in the province. The decisions align with the crucial need to fix Alberta’s spending problem and ensure the long-term sustainability of high-quality services for Albertans,” said Finance Minister Travis Toews in a news release Friday.

“Correcting wages over time is a critical part of our government’s commitment to get our fiscal house in order. Even with these decisions, fiscal restraint and discipline must continue as we enter into new collective bargaining negotiations in 2020.”

Regular readers will know that my lovely bride is a teacher. Years ago, under Klein, she more or less quietly took her 5% rollback because it made sense to her. This time? She's willing to go along with no increase but a rollback is not acceptable, especially with the little 4 year spending & hiring spree by the Commies. Downsize gov't, get their house in order, then we'll talk.

Macfury
Jan 29th, 2020, 11:22 AM
Huh. Where is the frustration & anger levelled at the Red Rachel for the exact same thing? Guess they were far too focussed on hiring 60,000 new voters, I mean, gov't employees. Look how that worked out...

'Extremely frustrated and angry:' Zero wage increases for teachers, nurses in arbitration rulings (https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/extremely-frustrated-and-angry-zero-wage-increases-for-teachers-nurses-in-arbitration-rulings)



Regular readers will know that my lovely bride is a teacher. Years ago, under Klein, she more or less quietly took her 5% rollback because it made sense to her. This time? She's willing to go along with no increase but a rollback is not acceptable, especially with the little 4 year spending & hiring spree by the Commies. Downsize gov't, get their house in order, then we'll talk.


Freddie will be happy! That's a 0% pay cut over 40 years!

eMacMan
Jan 29th, 2020, 11:47 AM
Freddie will be happy! That's a 0% pay cut over 40 years!

Freddie Math is an awfully convoluted subject, but I do wonder if 0 is considered a real number in that world?

Beej
Feb 1st, 2020, 11:35 AM
Wacky artist has wacky sense of entitlement (my headline)
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-ucp-branding-alberta-as-a-place-with-no-arts-and-culture/wcm/e3b3dace-b490-496d-8482-986b5ffd5689
You turn on your radio, there’s no music. You go to read a book, there are none on your shelf. There are no museums, no theatre, no colourful sporting events, no concert halls, no dance recitals. Even your favourite cereal comes from a blank white box.

This is the arts-free Alberta the UCP government seems to want.

Art only exists due to government funding in her world of, likely, sh*t art. Here's another gem for how self-important this type of rent seeker is:
The arts are as much a public utility as roads, infrastructure, and other public services.
She had trouble listing real public utilities and just blurted out three overlapping things (e.g. roads are a subset of infrastructure). Didn't want to mentioned water, I guess.

Macfury
Feb 1st, 2020, 11:45 AM
Wacky artist has wacky sense of entitlement (my headline)
https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-ucp-branding-alberta-as-a-place-with-no-arts-and-culture/wcm/e3b3dace-b490-496d-8482-986b5ffd5689


Art only exists due to government funding in her world of, likely, sh*t art. Here's another gem for how self-important this type of rent seeker is:

She had trouble listing real public utilities and just blurted out three overlapping things (e.g. roads are a subset of infrastructure). Didn't want to mentioned water, I guess.

It's amazing how government creates fashionable clothing and furniture as well...

The stuff she's painting in the photo is really poor.

Beej
Feb 1st, 2020, 12:02 PM
It's amazing how government creates fashionable clothing and furniture as well...


:lmao: Fashion just stops without a government grant. I wish. Humans probably spend a larger share of their total resources on peacocking than peacocks do.

FeXL
Feb 1st, 2020, 02:34 PM
If the only thing keeping these artists' heads above water is gov't funding, perhaps they should seek another line of work.

Regarding her comment about blank cereal boxes, No Name brand seems to do just fine with a solid yellow background and plain black typeface. Frankly, after looking at some of the crap "art" on packaging, it's refreshing to just be able to clearly read what the hell is in the box...

Beej
Feb 1st, 2020, 02:41 PM
If the only thing keeping these artists' heads above water is gov't funding, perhaps they should seek another line of work.

Regarding her comment about blank cereal boxes, No Name brand seems to do just fine with a solid yellow background and plain black typeface. Frankly, after looking at some of the crap "art" on packaging, it's refreshing to just be able to clearly read what the hell is in the box...

Philistine! How dare you question the value of cereal marketing art, which is akin to water and electricity. beejacon

FeXL
Feb 1st, 2020, 05:34 PM
Philistine! How dare you question the value of cereal marketing art, which is akin to water and electricity. beejacon

Why, yes. Yes, it is. Especially electricity generated by bird and bat choppers...

FeXL
Feb 29th, 2020, 01:00 PM
Alberta demands to be removed from federal carbon tax in wake of court decision (https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/alberta-demands-to-be-removed-from-federal-carbon-tax-in-wake-of-court-decision)

The Alberta government is demanding that the federal carbon tax no longer apply to the province after the Alberta Court of Appeal ruled the tax unconstitutional because it infringes on provincial jurisdiction.

Alberta Justice Minister Doug Schweitzer is also asking the federal government to “work out a process for the reimbursement to Albertans of taxes paid,” in a letter sent Wednesday morning to federal Justice Minister David Lametti.

“If you do not respond accordingly to our demands, the Government of Alberta will be forced to consider additional legal recourse to ensure that this unlawful tax on Albertans is removed and fully reimbursed,” the letter reads.

Whatevs.

The only way we'll be free of this millstone is to declare UDI & leave the bastards.

FeXL
Mar 13th, 2020, 11:15 AM
Maclean’s called Alberta's blockade buster a racist, so we're helping him sue — will you support him? (https://www.rebelnews.com/donation_clear_the_blockades/)

Remember a few weeks ago when some masked eco-terrorists blocked a railroad near Edmonton?

Police just stood there and did nothing to remove it. So a handful of peaceful Good Samaritans simply drove up with a big truck and carted away the garbage that was blocking the railroad.

It was wonderful — normal, law-abiding Albertans peacefully solving a problem that all the politicians and police wouldn’t.

But not to Maclean’s magazine. They published a crazy rant about racist white supremacist vigilantes — and illustrated it with a picture of one of those Good Samaritans, Chase Chomey.

But I know Chase. He’s not a racist or white supremacist or a vigilante at all. He’s just a guy who peacefully cleared garbage that was dangerously put on the railroad tracks.

eMacMan
Apr 20th, 2020, 12:32 AM
Kenney and his Conmen are beginning to remind me of Adolph and Joseph. Bill 10 is beyond obscene it is frightening, far more terrifying than Corona. Notice it was conveniently buried in the local press by: "Corona, The Sky is Falling" articles.

Had Albertans desired an anti-democratic province, they could have just given Red Rachael a second chance. Looks like anti-democracy walks hand in hand with anti-social distancing.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-carpay-albertas-bill-10-is-an-affront-to-the-rule-of-law