: Lest we forget


Dr.G.
Nov 9th, 2018, 05:45 PM
One hundred years ago this Sunday. Church bells shall ring out at 11AM on Sunday all over the world. Lest we forget.

A pre-Remembrance Day video. When I was a child, it was called Armistice Day. Then it became Veterans Day in the US. Sadly, although it is a long three day weekend, many in the US will be out shopping. :-(

On November 11, 1999 Terry Kelly was in a Shoppers Drug Mart store in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. At 10:55 AM an announcement came over the store's PA asking customers who would still be on the premises at 11:00 AM to give two minutes of silence in respect to the veterans who have sacrificed so much for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bXG...JxZ8Tq-XZP064Y

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/bells-of-peace-armistice-remembrance-day-legion-churches-1.4897434?cmp=FB_Post_News&fbclid=IwAR1vzstlt4uhs83WseIuzczc3e89gBbZ62-Amp1D6ZxdnD-cjoiNllx0vBM

Dr.G.
Nov 9th, 2018, 05:48 PM
Lest we forget.

Dr.G.
Nov 9th, 2018, 06:15 PM
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-last-100-days-world-war-one-globe-pages/

Beej
Nov 9th, 2018, 09:20 PM
Good posts. Thanks G.

Dr.G.
Nov 9th, 2018, 09:34 PM
Good posts. Thanks G.

Merci, mon ami. Paix.

Dr.G.
Nov 9th, 2018, 10:36 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/chris-andrews-beaumont-hamel-song-one-more-will-stand-1.3606972?fbclid=IwAR2PeRjrfOxGRFQd-WkwMDOxTRBTtDbyHu4bQuC6hxJ8xJSvQX3mRpG4VZI

Newfoundland was a country back in WWI and, on a per capita basis, lost more men than any other country.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/danger-tree-sculpture-marks-100-anniversary-beaumont-hamel-grenfell-college-1.3545058

Dr.G.
Nov 9th, 2018, 10:58 PM
"From the wood called Rouge Bouquet
delicate cloud of bugle notesThat softly say:
“Farewell!Farewell!Comrades true, born anew,
peace to you!Your souls shall be where the heroes are
And your memory shine like the morning-star.
Brave and dear,Shield us here.Farewell!”"

Joyce Kilmer

He enlisted in the New York National Guard and was deployed to France with the 69th Infantry Regiment (the famous "Fighting 69th") in 1917. He was killed by a sniper's bullet at the Second Battle of the Marne in 1918 at the age of 31.

CubaMark
Nov 10th, 2018, 12:58 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qafv0mtv8eswiry/Two_Albins.jpg?raw=1

SINC
Nov 10th, 2018, 04:19 AM
Remembering my parents, Lt. Finlay and Pvt. Mae Sinclair, both WWII veterans.

eMacMan
Nov 10th, 2018, 10:39 AM
I still recall those Armistice Day assemblies. Teachers trying to get perhaps two hundred students who had been sitting on hard metal chairs to remain still and keep quiet for an entire minute.

I also remember the World War I vets speaking with tears in their eyes, not really wanting to be there, but none the less trying to convey some of the horrors they had endured. All in the vain hope that somehow we could live up to their promise to never let it happen again.

It is for them that I post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VD84SLW8I

Rps
Nov 10th, 2018, 01:03 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/chris-andrews-beaumont-hamel-song-one-more-will-stand-1.3606972?fbclid=IwAR2PeRjrfOxGRFQd-WkwMDOxTRBTtDbyHu4bQuC6hxJ8xJSvQX3mRpG4VZI

Newfoundland was a country back in WWI and, on a per capita basis, lost more men than any other country.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/danger-tree-sculpture-marks-100-anniversary-beaumont-hamel-grenfell-college-1.3545058

Marc, I have a number of friends from the Rock and they told me that there probably wasn’t a single family who didn’t loose someone in War.

FeXL
Nov 10th, 2018, 02:37 PM
I want to shake this truck driver's hand.

American trucker treats busload of Canadian veterans to dinner (https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/american-trucker-treats-busload-of-canadian-veterans-to-dinner-1.4171268)

An American trucker passing through Ottawa treated a busload of Canadian veterans to dinner to honour their service.

The gesture happened on September 11 at Robbie’s Spaghetti House, where 17 veterans from the Perley and Rideau Veterans Health Centre were enjoying a night out.

Trucker John Meiring was at the same restaurant when he noticed the group, who arrived in a bus with “Vets on Wheels” on the front. He had an idea, so he approached their table

“He said, ‘I want to pay for the meals for all the veterans.’ I said, ‘Are you kidding?’” recalled Phil Lepage, a veteran of the Korean War, to CTV Ottawa’s Joel Haslam.

Thank you, sir.

pm-r
Nov 10th, 2018, 03:17 PM
I want to shake this truck driver's hand.


+1!!!

It just shows that any day can be made to celebrate and honor veterans for a Veterans Day… nice… and well done…




- Patrick
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Dr.G.
Nov 10th, 2018, 03:26 PM
Marc, I have a number of friends from the Rock and they told me that there probably wasn’t a single family who didn’t loose someone in War.

Sad, but true, Rp. After WWI, some NL small rural communities lost all their young men. :(:-(

CubaMark
Nov 10th, 2018, 06:38 PM
If there are some folks out there who are doing research on their family members who served in the Canadian military, a few notes:

If the service member died during World War I, their service file is publicly available via the Libraries & Archives Canada website (https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/personnel-records/Pages/personnel-records.aspx).

World War II files are here (https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/second-world-war/Pages/introduction.aspx).

If the service member survived WWII and has since passed away, the service file can be requested via this webpage (https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/transparency/atippr/Pages/Access-information-military-files.aspx#tab2). You will need to show proof of your relationship to the service member, and proof in some form that they have passed (death certificate, published obituary, even a photo of the headstone).

LAC has done an incredible job, scanning the service files of those who served. Read about the project here (https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/Pages/digitization-cef-service-files.aspx). The project blog is here (https://thediscoverblog.com/category/digitization-2/), the last post indicating that the digitization project was completed in August.

LAC also holds other records, including chaplains, nurses, war brides, etc. Lots to keep you occupied in your personal research effort.

Dr.G.
Nov 10th, 2018, 06:56 PM
Good to see PM Trudeau showing his respects at Vimy Ridge.

Dr.G.
Nov 10th, 2018, 06:58 PM
Lest we forget the non-humans who also served.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Ami

Dr.G.
Nov 10th, 2018, 07:09 PM
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-black-on-the-battlefield-canadas-forgotten-first-world-war-battalion/

CubaMark
Nov 10th, 2018, 07:55 PM
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-black-on-the-battlefield-canadas-forgotten-first-world-war-battalion/

Self-organizing, volunteering to go fight in a war where they weren't really wanted, and did it without weapons - only shovels and construction tools. Big Damn Heroes, the lot of 'em.

:clap:

Dr.G.
Nov 10th, 2018, 08:42 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-saturday-vimy-1.4900636?fbclid=IwAR01X9QP_GBydhUxrT_LrJXEAXyKrMT UIOblsZ_toNQ7ynoWKMTcAQLPc58

pm-r
Nov 10th, 2018, 08:42 PM
Self-organizing, volunteering to go fight in a war where they weren't really wanted, and did it without weapons - only shovels and construction tools. Big Damn Heroes, the lot of 'em.

:clap:


+1!! I didn't realize that Canada was so bigoted back then… shameful…



- Patrick
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Dr.G.
Nov 10th, 2018, 08:47 PM
Self-organizing, volunteering to go fight in a war where they weren't really wanted, and did it without weapons - only shovels and construction tools. Big Damn Heroes, the lot of 'em.

:clap:

All too true, Mark.

Dr.G.
Nov 10th, 2018, 09:31 PM
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/george-price-first-world-war-last-soldier-killed-1.4898387?fbclid=IwAR2bYa0QgdL2wFL-9j4dwhkRfbEzctiOZSI88TEiIl-BdMP9gCBD-4W-xDY

So sad.

CubaMark
Nov 10th, 2018, 10:41 PM
+1!! I didn't realize that Canada was so bigoted back then… shameful…

I've been looking into the history of the internment camps in Nova Scotia / Canada during the First World War. Famously, Leon Trotsky was imprisoned (for less than a month) in the camp located in Amherst, NS.

I've come across various news clippings from the period that revealed a sentiment across some sectors of the NS population, that any immigrant from an "enemy country" should be thrown into the internment camp alongside prisoners of war. That would include, for example, my great-grandparents who came over from the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It would include my great-uncle, who died fighting for Canada with the 4th Canadian Mounted Rifles (2nd Central Ontario Regiment). Some of those calls came from miners who worked alongside another great-uncle in Springhill:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jdbuylkgqe418it/1915-Miners-on-Strike-over-Alien-Labour.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tcjtmj2p8n5h8e/1917-Intern-All-Persons-of-Enemy-Nationality-in-Nova-Scotia-Demanded.jpg?raw=1

Dr.G.
Nov 11th, 2018, 12:27 PM
A sunny but very windy day at the Lunenburg War Memorial.

"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them."

Dr.G.
Nov 11th, 2018, 12:30 PM
The "Guns of August" finally fall silent. The artillery activity it illustrates was recorded on the American front near the River Moselle, one minute before and one minute after the war ended.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/07/eerie-recording-reveals-moment-the-guns-fell-silent-at-the-end-of-ww1-8114109/?fbclid=IwAR2HBRuiEsR0wj0Bc3qvKAyIDOENM8fmT6rlueoG TpibuKjk4ZP4PYyyDIc

FeXL
Nov 11th, 2018, 12:47 PM
'A story of incredibly bad timing': Canadian last to die before armistice (https://www.timescolonist.com/a-story-of-incredibly-bad-timing-canadian-last-to-die-before-armistice-1.23491282)

Moments before the armistice ending the First World War took effect on Nov. 11, 1918, a sniper's bullet sliced the morning air.

It struck a Canadian soldier in the chest as he emerged from the doorway of a house in a small Belgian village. Pvt. George Lawrence Price died minutes later at 10:58 a.m. — a mere two minutes before hostilities ceased.

Dr.G.
Nov 11th, 2018, 01:10 PM
'A story of incredibly bad timing': Canadian last to die before armistice (https://www.timescolonist.com/a-story-of-incredibly-bad-timing-canadian-last-to-die-before-armistice-1.23491282)

Yes, so very sad. :-(

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/george-price-first-world-war-last-soldier-killed-1.4898387?fbclid=IwAR2bYa0QgdL2wFL-9j4dwhkRfbEzctiOZSI88TEiIl-BdMP9gCBD-4W-xDY

Dr.G.
Nov 11th, 2018, 06:08 PM
A unique story.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/will-r-bird-nova-scotia-vimy-ghost-1.4880039?fbclid=IwAR0QMyWpTV39LDsfbjCsRNApNbjNqIo Qec2REGd-wbzl8JQGai3_dLbEFKo

Dr.G.
Nov 11th, 2018, 06:09 PM
I've been looking into the history of the internment camps in Nova Scotia / Canada during the First World War. Famously, Leon Trotsky was imprisoned (for less than a month) in the camp located in Amherst, NS.

I've come across various news clippings from the period that revealed a sentiment across some sectors of the NS population, that any immigrant from an "enemy country" should be thrown into the internment camp alongside prisoners of war. That would include, for example, my great-grandparents who came over from the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It would include my great-uncle, who died fighting for Canada with the 4th Canadian Mounted Rifles (2nd Central Ontario Regiment). Some of those calls came from miners who worked alongside another great-uncle in Springhill:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jdbuylkgqe418it/1915-Miners-on-Strike-over-Alien-Labour.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tcjtmj2p8n5h8e/1917-Intern-All-Persons-of-Enemy-Nationality-in-Nova-Scotia-Demanded.jpg?raw=1

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/amherst-prisoner-of-war-camp-first-world-war-bill-casey-mp-1.4899753?fbclid=IwAR3F9uD-yuS1R8VUIlC7NO2dD7b624FOw-FCXTYFEFL_qv2yDWmFkV4Hg48

Dr.G.
Nov 11th, 2018, 07:38 PM
A story of courage.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/world-war-1-military-veterans-remembrance-1.4895850?fbclid=IwAR15KdLiIslsK8Q5t4m_Q6QHgO9M70f 91_wUXPNBQD7txA0dU783lrqOUVM

hexdiy
Nov 11th, 2018, 08:08 PM
Lest we forget,

the brave young men of all warring parties who were none too keen on dying or killing for a gouvernment they had not voted for, and which in many cases, suppressed them brutally. Or in any case forbade them a higher education in their mother tongue.

How many Flemish youngsters have died totally in vain in Flanders fields because of commands yelled to them in French, a language they did not understand, has not been documented even after a century...
The same probably goes for many unfortunate colonials like the Maoris, Vietnamese (Indochine) or African troops of the era.

This has resulted in an Anti-war movement in Flanders which till this day has a monument called the Yser Tower, carrying the words "No More War" in 4 languages,
built by Flemish WW I veterans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yser_Tower

http://www.museumaandeijzer.be/ijzertoren/sites/museum_ijzer.localhost/files/dsc09592.jpg

The original 1930 monument was blown up in 1946 by persons yet unknown; probably French- speaking political opponents, possibly the Belgian secret service acting on orders from unknown origin. Or Belgian resistance fighters from WW II. The country was in turmoil in 1946...
.
It just carried the words: "PAX". Part of it still stands and is known as "the PAX Portal"

Yet the monument was rebuilt and stands more gloriously than ever.

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/09/45/4a/63/yser-tower.jpg

Lest we forget,

the clumsiness of the Russian emperor during WW I which inaugurated the Russian revolution because of general famine.
However well-meant this revolution initially may have been, it has alas proven to be one of the most murderous events of the 20th century, especially since the notorious criminal Stalin had taken over; he has been as murderous as Hitler...

Lest we forget,

the turmoil of WW I has given Ataturk in Turkey (the then Ottoman Empire) an excuse to terminate 1.5 million Armenians- and other minorities. Yet another- not too well known- genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

Lest we forget,

the stringency of the 11 November Versailles treaty was the cause of death for 300.000 innocent German/Austrian citizens because of ensuing poverty and famine...

Lest we forget,

the folly of this Versailles treaty ( probably designed by the then- French prime minister Clémeaunceau AKA "Le Tigre")has directly inaugurated WW II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Clemenceau


Let us bear in mind that general Ludendorff and ex-corporal (!) Adolf Hitler had already tried an NSDAP Putch in 1923 to take over München (!).
To a very deadly result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

"Mein Kampf" was written in prison because of this attempted takeover...

Please let us keep a keen historic perspective, ladies and gentlemen.

Forgive, but never forget.

La Paix, mes amis!

Oh, if you were wondering what the acronym "AVVVVK" on the the monument stands for:
"Alles voor Vlaanderen, Vlaanderen voor Kristus"
or:
"All for Flanders, Flanders for Christ".

Flanders was a very Catholic country/ region at the time.
I would prefer a Namasté to you at this time.
The friendly intention, however, stays the same...

CubaMark
Nov 11th, 2018, 08:39 PM
Thanks, hexdiy. :clap:

eMacMan
Nov 11th, 2018, 08:50 PM
Good Post hexdiy

SINC
Nov 11th, 2018, 09:49 PM
Thanks, hexdiy. :clap:

Likewise! :clap: