I’m wondering if any of the readers of this thread would be interested in some of the history of MLB. I know that you and I , Mark, talk quite a bit about baseball, just wondering if any other ehMacers are interested. I’ve been doing some research on the Browns lately and would be willing to post some of my stuff on the MLB if there are those interested in its history. My Braves would be a good example as would the Orioles,

I know that I would love to talk about baseball history ........... although I am Marc with a "c" .................. and not CubaMark. :D

I know that I would love to talk about baseball history ........... although I am Marc with a "c" .................. and not CubaMark. :D

Sorry about that Marc! My iPad seems to auto correct between posts, it is frustrating. It also drops whole posts for some unknown reason. Guess I will have to use my laptop . Might be time to give my grandson the iPad.

Sorry about that Marc! My iPad seems to auto correct between posts, it is frustrating. It also drops whole posts for some unknown reason. Guess I will have to use my laptop . Might be time to give my grandson the iPad.

No problem. While I lived in Athens, GA I saw many an Atlanta Braves game, especially when they went up against the NY Mets or SF Giants.

So now we know where Joeybats is going. Nice pickup and a signal the Mets are done.

So now we know where Joeybats is going. Nice pickup and a signal the Mets are done.

Sad, but all too true for the Mets. Just saw the headlines "Mets trade veteran slugger Jose Bautista to Phillies in time for playoff push" ............... a push for the Phillies and NOT the Mets. :(

Speaking of the Phillies, a great matchup this evening.

Scherzer WAS SP 16-6, 2.13 ERA, 0.89 WHIP

Nola PHI SP 15-3, 2.13 ERA, 0.97 WHIP

Speaking of the Phillies, a great matchup this evening.

Scherzer WAS SP 16-6, 2.13 ERA, 0.89 WHIP

Nola PHI SP 15-3, 2.13 ERA, 0.97 WHIP

Cy Young determiner?

Excellent article in the Washington Post....well worth the read and I wish I wrote it.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/baseball-cliches/?noredirect=on

Cy Young determiner?

Excellent article in the Washington Post....well worth the read and I wish I wrote it.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/baseball-cliches/?noredirect=on

Only Nola pitched well. Cry Young or Cy Young???????? Remember, only the good "cry young". :D

Excellent article in the Washington Post....well worth the read and I wish I wrote it.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/baseball-cliches/?noredirect=on

A very interesting article. Where are Yogi and Casey Stengel when we need them???

Marc if I voted it would be deGromm. There are 5 in the NL who would all be good choices and each leading in a different segment. I’m an ERA guy, deGromm has it for ERA but his win record will probably kill his chances. As wins are everything, Nola would be my choice if you take ERA out and judge by the rest of the criteria. Don’t the stars aligne that Sherz and Nola will pitch against each other again?

A very interesting article. Where are Yogi and Casey Stengel when we need them???

Wouldn’t Yogi and Casey be a cliche..........no, they are originals 😁😁😁

Wouldn’t Yogi and Casey be a cliche..........no, they are originals 😁😁😁

:lmao::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

True. As Casey would say "You could look it up." :D

Marc if I voted it would be deGromm. There are 5 in the NL who would all be good choices and each leading in a different segment. I’m an ERA guy, deGromm has it for ERA but his win record will probably kill his chances. As wins are everything, Nola would be my choice if you take ERA out and judge by the rest of the criteria. Don’t the stars aligne that Sherz and Nola will pitch against each other again?

We are in agreement here, Rp. He pitched another strong game yesterday ..... which the Mets lost today. :(

Why is it when there is a discussion at the mound, everyone covers their mouth with their glove?????

Why is it when there is a discussion at the mound, everyone covers their mouth with their glove?????

It’s to prevent opposition players from “seeing” hat is being said. All dugouts have TV screens today so the manager can pick up the discussion, and players on the field maybe able to lip read from talks on the mound. I’m not sure what series started this but I’ll check. Rumour has it that an opponent lip read the discussion and turned that to his advantage.

It’s to prevent opposition players from “seeing” hat is being said. All dugouts have TV screens today so the manager can pick up the discussion, and players on the field maybe able to lip read from talks on the mound. I’m not sure what series started this but I’ll check. Rumour has it that an opponent lip read the discussion and turned that to his advantage.

That is a reasonable explanation but still a bit useless in my opinion.

The manager tells his pitcher "Hang in there" ............ the catcher then tells the pitcher "strike him out" ........... the other infielders all say in unison "we are behind you". Can't have anyone know those thoughts, can they????????? :D

More likely it would be, “you haven’t thrown your breaking ball yet”, or “ if player X has a 10 ft lead toss over to first”, or my favourite was Williams order “ you have two strikes but this guy hits you all the time, so, fake a walk...toss 3 pitches then on the fourth fast ball down the pipe”. It worked and thus a famous strike out.

More likely it would be, “you haven’t thrown your breaking ball yet”, or “ if player X has a 10 ft lead toss over to first”, or my favourite was Williams order “ you have two strikes but this guy hits you all the time, so, fake a walk...toss 3 pitches then on the fourth fast ball down the pipe”. It worked and thus a famous strike out.

Logical. :clap:

Happ is pitching for the Yanks tonight. We shall see if he can continue his winning ways.

Well, the Yankees traded with the Giants to get Andrew McCutchen. This may actually help them. We shall see.

Well, the Yankees traded with the Giants to get Andrew McCutchen. This may actually help them. We shall see.

Well I knew Cutch was going just had the wrong NY team. The Giants have conceded the season and are only 8 out ... when you consider they have 3 series with. WC holders they caved too early. Also, that management by committee of the Mets has to go.....I’m sure my sources were correct that the Mets could have had him. The Yanks certainly have nerve....haven’t read what it will cost them as yet.

Well I knew Cutch was going just had the wrong NY team. The Giants have conceded the season and are only 8 out ... when you consider they have 3 series with. WC holders they caved too early. Also, that management by committee of the Mets has to go.....I’m sure my sources were correct that the Mets could have had him. The Yanks certainly have nerve....haven’t read what it will cost them as yet.

The Yankees gave up two minor league players and some cash. I have NOT given up on the Giants yet.

https://www.mlb.com/news/josh-donaldson-traded-to-indians/c-292746468

Sad. :( JD was one of my favorite Jays.

The Milwaukee Brewers just acquired Curtis Granderson from the Toronto Blue Jays. Gone is another one of my favorite Jays. :(

The Milwaukee Brewers just acquired Curtis Granderson from the Toronto Blue Jays. Gone is another one of my favorite Jays. :(

CG was a lock to be moved. JD was a harder call. But, my spidey sense tells me that the Jays management was not exactly forth coming with the issue with him. I also wouldn’t trade to a contender in my league if possible. There is more to this than meets the eye. Again they need to say goodbye to the Pres and GM committee. They Jays are in trouble and it starts at the top.

CG was a lock to be moved. JD was a harder call. But, my spidey sense tells me that the Jays management was not exactly forth coming with the issue with him. I also wouldn’t trade to a contender in my league if possible. There is more to this than meets the eye. Again they need to say goodbye to the Pres and GM committee. They Jays are in trouble and it starts at the top.

" They Jays are in trouble and it starts at the top." Sad, but all too true, mon ami. Still, yesterday's game had a great 9th inning if you were a Jays fan. :clap::clap::clap:

Sept. 28th, 1941, Ted Williams goes 6 for 8 in a season ending double header to finish the year with a .406 . Then, on Sept. 28th, 1960, Ted Williams, on his last at bat, hits a home run at Fenway Park in Boston.

Sadly, Syndergaard did this against my SF Giants. :(
9.0 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 11 SO, 1 BB

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2793941-how-the-nationals-completely-ruined-the-bryce-harper-era?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

An interesting article about the Washington Nats.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/article-the-blue-jays-awfulness-is-now-a-matter-of-fact/

Another interesting and sad article.

To me the unwritten gist of the two articles is the strength of the farm system. Let’s face it the Red Sox and Yanks have depth. Two teams with an outstanding farm system are Atlanta and, it was also the reason I picked them as my contending teams, the Padres. The Padres didn’t workout this year but wait till next year and beyond by one or so...lookout. The Braves never worried about brining guys up last year and look where they are...way ahead of schedule.

The Nats just don’t gel as a team....as for the Jays....it’s the front office. They are like the Leafs in some ways....no team can be successful I. The NHL without having an ex Leaf.....the Jays are going down that road.

To me the unwritten gist of the two articles is the strength of the farm system. Let’s face it the Red Sox and Yanks have depth. Two teams with an outstanding farm system are Atlanta and, it was also the reason I picked them as my contending teams, the Padres. The Padres didn’t workout this year but wait till next year and beyond by one or so...lookout. The Braves never worried about brining guys up last year and look where they are...way ahead of schedule.

The Nats just don’t gel as a team....as for the Jays....it’s the front office. They are like the Leafs in some ways....no team can be successful I. The NHL without having an ex Leaf.....the Jays are going down that road.

A valid point re the front office. It helped the SF Giants win the 2010/12/14 World Series.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/heres-what-mets-jacob-degrom-needs-in-order-to-break-doc-goodens-modern-day-era-record/

I remember Doc Gooden's 1985 ERA year. Amazing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Abbott

On September 4, 1993 while pitching for the New York Yankees, Jim Abbott pitched a no-hitter against the Cleveland Indians.

https://i.imgur.com/r0hdnxy.gifv

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Abbott

On September 4, 1993 while pitching for the New York Yankees, Jim Abbott pitched a no-hitter against the Cleveland Indians.

https://i.imgur.com/r0hdnxy.gifv

And he did this all the while missing one hand. :eek::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

I also recall that he had a 2–18 record in 1996, in that I was wondering if he would do worse than Roger Craig did when he pitched for the NY Mets in 1963 when he went 5 and 22 for the hapless Mets (he was 10 and 24 in the previous season).

An interesting baseball trivia question is who had the most loses in a season? The answer is Paul Derringer who was 0 and 2 with the Cards and then 7 and 25 with the Reds in the same year.

Then, of course, is Don Larsen.

Larsen’s .125 winning percentage (3–21) in the 1954 season is the lowest mark registered for the period from 1920 forward, and eighth lowest all-time.

Larsen would be traded to the New York Yankees at the conclusion of the 1954 season. Of course, his perfect game in the 1956 World Series is what Don Larsen is most remembered for in the world of baseball trivia. :clap::clap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPfWZe2T74M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roZUjcYj95k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mz3fRg_crE

In my view, deGrom has it as it is certainly a different era than when Gooden pitched. But you could put an asterisk on every number really.

In my view, deGrom has it as it is certainly a different era than when Gooden pitched. But you could put an asterisk on every number really.

Well, this is an issue that has been debated for many, many years. Talk of the "dead ball" era, talk of the changes to the balls, the bats, the mounds, the field dimensions, the length of the season, the designated hitter ................... and of course, steroids ( :ptptptptp ) , etc, have always raised these sorts of issues/discussions.

Still, it is interesting to discuss who should or should not get an asterisk. Paix, mon ami.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/blue-jays-reportedly-parting-ways-with-manager-john-gibbons-after-this-season/

Rp, you called this correctly. Kudos.

Mets vs Boston with both pitchers having an under 2.00 ERA and under 1.00 WHIP.

J. deGrom NYM SP
8-9, 1.71 ERA, 0.95 WHIP

C. Sale BOS SP
12-4, 1.96 ERA, 0.85 WHIP

Morning Marc, will be watching that one. My money will be on the Sox for this one. The Mets don’t score for DeGrom....it is a trend that I see continuing.

Morning Marc, will be watching that one. My money will be on the Sox for this one. The Mets don’t score for DeGrom....it is a trend that I see continuing.

Sadly, all too true. :(

Morning Marc, will be watching that one. My money will be on the Sox for this one. The Mets don’t score for DeGrom....it is a trend that I see continuing.

Well, the Mets are certainly not hitting/scoring for him today. :(

Well, deGrom did his part.

J. deGrom NYM P
7.0 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 12 SO, 1 BB

Well, deGrom did his part.

J. deGrom NYM P
7.0 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 12 SO, 1 BB

It is strange isn’t it. The Synder can walk 8 guys, get whacked for 10 hits and win, but DeGrom he gets zip. Cy Young winners usually have wins.....that might be his drawback to winning....the best pitcher in the MLB can’t steal a win.

It is strange isn’t it. The Synder can walk 8 guys, get whacked for 10 hits and win, but DeGrom he gets zip. Cy Young winners usually have wins.....that might be his drawback to winning....the best pitcher in the MLB can’t steal a win.

Again, sad, but all too true. :(

Little whispers has it that the Jays may be getting a huge break. The rumble is that Shapiro will be moving to the Mets. Sorry Met fans, but if you are a Jay fan you should be dancing in the streets if this comes to pass.

Little whispers has it that the Jays may be getting a huge break. The rumble is that Shapiro will be moving to the Mets. Sorry Met fans, but if you are a Jay fan you should be dancing in the streets if this comes to pass.

Yes, I heard of that rumor last week. We shall see.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/report-talk-mets-interest-blue-jays-president-shapiro-continues/

Not a good night for my teams -- the Giants, the Mets and the Jays. :(

Wow. Quite the blowout.

Angels 3 5 1
Athletics 21 22 0

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-odds-cubs-favorite-to-sign-soon-to-be-free-agent-slugger-this-offseason-oddsmakers-have-nationals-fifth/

An interesting possibility.

Jeff Banister is out as the manager of the Texas Rangers after four seasons and two AL West pennants. Of course, Texas currently sits in last place in the American League West with a 64-88 record. Still, a manager does not bat, field or pitch.

Sadly, my SF Giants were eliminated yesterday. So much for the luck of the even year, after winning the World Series in 2010, 2012 and 2014. Such is Life.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-odds-cubs-favorite-to-sign-soon-to-be-free-agent-slugger-this-offseason-oddsmakers-have-nationals-fifth/

An interesting possibility.

I haven’t checked the Nats payroll but I think it is more likely Harper is gone and the Nats might not put up too much of a fuss.

What is interesting is that the Giants would be a nice fit for him....but the Giants payroll at about 200 million needs some work. They could swing it but they would have to dump some salary and not sure who would be going. The Cubs have room and Harper is in The NL. Now a long shot would be the Mets....they have some dead salary but could use his bat. So who would go.....Conforto, Jackson and a few pitchers, maybe Bruce. Nimmo would be hands off. Then there’s Syndergaard......his name keeps cropping up.

Jeff Banister is out as the manager of the Texas Rangers after four seasons and two AL West pennants. Of course, Texas currently sits in last place in the American League West with a 64-88 record. Still, a manager does not bat, field or pitch.

He won’t be alone....Baltimore, Toronto, Royals, and maybe even the Giants. Managers on the cusp are in Pittsburgh, Cincinnati. Detroit will be an interesting situation as well.

I haven’t checked the Nats payroll but I think it is more likely Harper is gone and the Nats might not put up too much of a fuss.

What is interesting is that the Giants would be a nice fit for him....but the Giants payroll at about 200 million needs some work. They could swing it but they would have to dump some salary and not sure who would be going. The Cubs have room and Harper is in The NL. Now a long shot would be the Mets....they have some dead salary but could use his bat. So who would go.....Conforto, Jackson and a few pitchers, maybe Bruce. Nimmo would be hands off. Then there’s Syndergaard......his name keeps cropping up.

Interesting speculations, Rp. The Giants need to be healthy next year.

As for Harper ............... https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-odds-cubs-favorite-to-sign-soon-to-be-free-agent-slugger-this-offseason-oddsmakers-have-nationals-fifth/

He won’t be alone....Baltimore, Toronto, Royals, and maybe even the Giants. Managers on the cusp are in Pittsburgh, Cincinnati. Detroit will be an interesting situation as well.

No, the Giants will keep BB ................ he took them to the "big dance" three times this decade.

Jays win :) ............... Giants lose :( .............. Mets lose ........ with only one hit. :(

An interesting record was set tonight. Cleveland became the first team to have four pitchers on the team with 200 or more strikeouts in the same season.

Kluber , Clevinger, Carrasco & Bauer

https://www.mlb.com/giants/news/bobby-evans-steps-down-as-giants-gm/c-295863468

Such is Life. Hopefully, they will keep Bruce Bochy, the manager of the San Francisco Giants. We shall see.

https://www.mlb.com/giants/news/each-mlb-teams-all-time-ace-pitcher/c-295642832

Interesting, if you like stats as I do.

Well I think we could see the GM done. But Bochy is next...new GMs have a habit of replacing managers.

Well I think we could see the GM done. But Bochy is next...new GMs have a habit of replacing managers.

No!!!!!!! Say it ain't so, Rp. Say it ain't so. :-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQveng3Wxz8

Virtually all of those pitchers were in the era of complete games. Today’s pitchers hit 6 innings and done.

There is some talk that the Cubs may be thinking about a manager change........go figure that one.....it would be right up there with the Yanks .

Virtually all of those pitchers were in the era of complete games. Today’s pitchers hit 6 innings and done.

There is some talk that the Cubs may be thinking about a manager change........go figure that one.....it would be right up there with the Yanks .

So true. Now, a complete game is a rare situation. :(

https://www.mlb.com/giants/news/madison-bumgarner-lifts-giants-in-12th-inning/c-296055958

In the 1950s, the Brooklyn Dodgers used to use Don Newcomb as a pinch hitter .............. and even batted him cleanup when he was pitching one day.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jays beat Houston, 3-1

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/john-gibbons-blue-jays-1.4839158

I always liked him as the manager of the Jays.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/john-gibbons-blue-jays-1.4839158

I always liked him as the manager of the Jays.

Well I never really had him on my wish list. I always found him too conservative for my tastes. While he did manage them to an almost WS appearance ( a bit of bad luck vs a good team prevented it. ) I think he did a very good job this year. It would seem 2018 is the year of the injury and he put a credible team together and they played well under the circumstances.....if I were the GM ( and a new one is coming ) I would keep him another year or so but it’s not to be.

Well I never really had him on my wish list. I always found him too conservative for my tastes. While he did manage them to an almost WS appearance ( a bit of bad luck vs a good team prevented it. ) I think he did a very good job this year. It would seem 2018 is the year of the injury and he put a credible team together and they played well under the circumstances.....if I were the GM ( and a new one is coming ) I would keep him another year or so but it’s not to be.

Good points, Rp. We shall see.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/why-mets-jacob-degrom-has-taken-over-the-nl-cy-young-race-and-deserves-to-win-the-award/

I agree.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/john-gibbons-blue-jays-houston-astros-1.4840000?cmp=FB_Post_News

On this day in baseball history -- In 1954 during Game 1 of the World Series at the Polo Ground in NYC. THE CATCH, by Willie Mays .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dK6zPbkFnE

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-set-new-single-season-mlb-record-with-265th-home-run-of-2018-thanks-to-gleyber-torres/

And this is with Judge out for nearly two months.

Going down to the wire in the NL West. Hopefully the Giants can spoil it for the LA Dodgers. We shall see.

My SF Giants are getting pounded by the LA Dodgers. :( :( :(

The NY Mets gave him one run, but that was all he needed.

N. Syndergaard NYM P 9.0 IP, 5 H, 0 ER, 6 SO, 0 BB

The Rockies are heading to the NLDS after a marathon win over the Cubs at Wrigley Field. :(

The Rockies are heading to the NLDS after a marathon win over the Cubs at Wrigley Field. :(

As a Colorado Springs sports writer said: 'The Rox are incapable of doing it the easy way.'

As a Colorado Springs sports writer said: 'The Rox are incapable of doing it the easy way.'

True.

The Rockies are heading to the NLDS after a marathon win over the Cubs at Wrigley Field. :(

Well, in another thread I mentioned be afraid of the Rockies.....now we will see if that is true. Secretly or not so, MLB is wishing for a Yanks/Sox ALCS and a Dodger/don’t care NLCS.

As a Braves fan would love to see them and my season start choice Cleveland in the WS.

Chicago will be interesting to watch in the off season. Jays might be able to pickup a manager.

Well, in another thread I mentioned be afraid of the Rockies.....now we will see if that is true. Secretly or not so, MLB is wishing for a Yanks/Sox ALCS and a Dodger/don’t care NLCS.

As a Braves fan would love to see them and my season start choice Cleveland in the WS.

Chicago will be interesting to watch in the off season. Jays might be able to pickup a manager.

Also, true, Rp. We shall see.

Triple plays are real rally killers. I have seen one live at Shea Stadium in NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4GicZ9Tjf0

Triple plays are real rally killers. I have seen one live at Shea Stadium in NYC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4GicZ9Tjf0

I saw that Nats/Giants triple on MLB. I haven’t seen one live. The line out at first as a double is a killer, but to get 3 is unusual as in that game.

I saw that Nats/Giants triple on MLB. I haven’t seen one live. The line out at first as a double is a killer, but to get 3 is unusual as in that game.

True.

I saw the NY Mets pull off a triple play against the SF Giants ............... bases loaded with Willie Mays on deck. Boom, boom, boom and it was over and Mays had to lead off the next inning as the hitter (for the record, he did get a single at this at bat).

Watching the Yankees-A's game, with the Yanks blowing it open in the 6th inning.

Quite the catch!

Young Dodgers fan has perfect birthday after catching Manny Machado NLDS homer

https://sports.yahoo.com/young-dodgers-fan-makes-great-catch-manny-machados-nlds-homer-022031581.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

Quite the catch!

Young Dodgers fan has perfect birthday after catching Manny Machado NLDS homer

https://sports.yahoo.com/young-dodgers-fan-makes-great-catch-manny-machados-nlds-homer-022031581.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

:clap::clap::clap:

That was a nice catch. But I like this one.....

https://youtu.be/fxxGgv3cI5U

That was a nice catch. But I like this one.....

https://youtu.be/fxxGgv3cI5U

I like the catch where the ball girl in left field literally climbs up the wall in foul territory to make the catch.

Do or die for the Yankees tonight. We shall see.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-vs-red-sox-four-things-new-york-must-do-to-force-an-alds-game-5/

We shall see.

Marc, there is an old adage in hockey that states when you blowout a team today, you might need some of those goals tomorrow. Baseball might be the same. I think the Yanks are done.

I actually had to watch that Cleveland game twice to get my head around the wheels falling off so quickly........as for my Braves, never thought this was their year.

Marc, there is an old adage in hockey that states when you blowout a team today, you might need some of those goals tomorrow. Baseball might be the same. I think the Yanks are done.

I actually had to watch that Cleveland game twice to get my head around the wheels falling off so quickly........as for my Braves, never thought this was their year.

Re the Yanks, we shall see.

As for the Braves, I root for any team against the Dodgers. Go Brewers!!!!!!!

Interesting. Mookie Betts walks ............ goes to second on a wild pitch .............. goes to third on a wild pitch ............ scores on a passed ball.

A good game shaping up in LA. Should be a battle of the pitchers. We shall see.

Well, the LA Dodgers got their pitching on track ............ sort of ......... :(

Well, at least Boston won. I hope that they go all the way. We shall see.

Don’t think I’d wager on any of the teams going forward...been to strange a series so far. But MLB would love a Dodger/Red Sox final. The ratings would be huge in those markets. That said, Houston isn’t really that small a market I think. Should be fun to watch.

Don’t think I’d wager on any of the teams going forward...been to strange a series so far. But MLB would love a Dodger/Red Sox final. The ratings would be huge in those markets. That said, Houston isn’t really that small a market I think. Should be fun to watch.

Well, I have a $2 bet in ProLine on Boston.

Well, I have a $2 bet in ProLine on Boston.

Hope it pays.

Hope it pays.

We shall see.

Great pitching matchup tonight -- Verlander vs Price.

The Boston Red Sox defeated the Houston Astros 4-1 on Thursday night in Game 5 of the American League Championship Series to advance to the 2018 World Series. I hope that if they meet the Dodgers they crush them in four games. We shall see.

A lot of “what if’ers” will be talking about the West/Altuve no home run which tainted this series. The Sox are pretty formidable right now.

I normally watch the ALCS and the NLCS, then the Series. Not so this year for unknown reasons. Don't even know what teams are involved so I hope I can break out of this slump and watch the WS.

I normally watch the ALCS and the NLCS, then the Series. Not so this year for unknown reasons. Don't even know what teams are involved so I hope I can break out of this slump and watch the WS.

AL: Red Sox
NL: Dodgers or Brewers

..go Sox :D

BReligion

I normally watch the ALCS and the NLCS, then the Series. Not so this year for unknown reasons. Don't even know what teams are involved so I hope I can break out of this slump and watch the WS.

:eek::eek::eek:

AL: Red Sox
NL: Dodgers or Brewers

..go Sox :D

BReligion

:clap::clap::clap:

Well, the Brewers power their way to a game 7. I hope that they win. We shall see.

Should be an interesting World Series this year. We shall see.

Should be an interesting World Series this year. We shall see.

I think what will determine this series is actually the ball park the clinching game is played in.......

I think what will determine this series is actually the ball park the clinching game is played in.......

Well, let's hope for a celebration at Fenway in Boston.

The World Series starts tonight. Sadly, none of my teams are in the Fall Classic. Such is Life. Still, as a Giants fan, I shall be rooting for Boston to crush LA.

The World Series starts tonight. Sadly, none of my teams are in the Fall Classic. Such is Life. Still, as a Giants fan, I shall be rooting for Boston to crush LA.

Well the first game will be a pitchers duel that is for sure.....so that means an 8-1 game right?:lmao::lmao:

I would like to see the Dodgers win over Boston....its been awhile. As a Braves fan I don't have that born in hatred of the Dodgers that a Giants fan would have. New York must have seemed like Baseball Heaven in the late 40s and early 50s with the Giants, Dodgers, and the Yanks. I read somewhere that every WS from the 40s to the 60s I think had a New York Team in it.....impressive.

Well the first game will be a pitchers duel that is for sure.....so that means an 8-1 game right?:lmao::lmao:

I would like to see the Dodgers win over Boston....its been awhile. As a Braves fan I don't have that born in hatred of the Dodgers that a Giants fan would have. New York must have seemed like Baseball Heaven in the late 40s and early 50s with the Giants, Dodgers, and the Yanks. I read somewhere that every WS from the 40s to the 60s I think had a New York Team in it.....impressive.

We shall see who wins tonight.

Yes, when I was growing up, there always seemed to have a NYC team in the World Series.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/world-series-102-years-before-red-sox-vs-dodgers-it-was-babe-ruth-and-boston-vs-brooklyn/

A bit of baseball trivia.

Go Boston!!!!!!!!! One down and three to go.

Blue Jays hire Charlie Montoyo as new manager. Who???

Blue Jays hire Charlie Montoyo as new manager. Who???

He is Carlos Montoyo Diaz, he was with Tampa Bay in their AAA club, and their 3rd base coach and finally bench coach. He is an “old school” guy who might be a good choice for them. I think he should have been TBs manager...I like teams that promote from within, but the Jays grabbed him....I think he’ll be okay....not my choice but a good one.

p.s. maybe they should have waited until after the WS.....much rumbles on the Dodger management fumbles in the 2 games so far.

He is Carlos Montoyo Diaz, he was with Tampa Bay in their AAA club, and their 3rd base coach and finally bench coach. He is an “old school” guy who might be a good choice for them. I think he should have been TBs manager...I like teams that promote from within, but the Jays grabbed him....I think he’ll be okay....not my choice but a good one.

p.s. maybe they should have waited until after the WS.....much rumbles on the Dodger management fumbles in the 2 games so far.

Well, we shall see. If the players do not perform well, it does not matter who is at the helm.

Would love to see Boston crush the Dodgers tonight. We shall see.

2018 Game 3: Dodgers beat Red Sox 3-2 in 18 innings.
1916 Game 2: (Brooklyn) Dodgers beat Red Sox 2-1 in 14 innings.

Bug humbar. :(

Morning Marc.....a bit tired after watching some of the game...could use double coffee this morning. Fox must be pulling their hair out over the length of the game.....not a game for those who only watch baseball during the Series I think.

Wouldn’t want to manage today’s game......I’m surprised they didn’t have the hot dog vendors pitching last night.

That wasn't a game. It was two games.

Morning Marc.....a bit tired after watching some of the game...could use double coffee this morning. Fox must be pulling their hair out over the length of the game.....not a game for those who only watch baseball during the Series I think.

Wouldn’t want to manage today’s game......I’m surprised they didn’t have the hot dog vendors pitching last night.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

That wasn't a game. It was two games.

True. :)

Quite the exciting last few innings of the game last night. Stayed up until 115AM to see it all. Three down and one to go for Boston.

BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

One would wonder if Roberts is in trouble.....I know he had a good record but many think he mismanaged the pitching in a couple of the games. Which brings us to Clayton K......going into a contract year he doesn’t have a great post season record...which is key to big money.

Now that they have a new manager, the Jays will be interesting to watch .... will they be more like Astros or more like the Yanks.........

One would wonder if Roberts is in trouble.....I know he had a good record but many think he mismanaged the pitching in a couple of the games. Which brings us to Clayton K......going into a contract year he doesn’t have a great post season record...which is key to big money.

Now that they have a new manager, the Jays will be interesting to watch .... will they be more like Astros or more like the Yanks.........

Re Roberts, his bullpen failed him, but I don't see him being fired.

Re Roberts, his bullpen failed him, but I don't see him being fired.

Interesting article on baseball from The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/10/red-sox-world-series-2018-mlb/574162/

Interesting article on baseball from The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/10/red-sox-world-series-2018-mlb/574162/

Interesting points re the slow pace of play and metrics. Add to this baseball pools that look for a player stats over who wins/loses. :(

Personally, I only watched the last game in total.

San Francisco Giants Legend and Hall of Famer Willie McCovey passed away peacefully this afternoon at the age of 80 after losing his battle with ongoing health issues. Sad, he was one of my favorite Giants players.

San Francisco Giants Legend and Hall of Famer Willie McCovey passed away peacefully this afternoon at the age of 80 after losing his battle with ongoing health issues. Sad, he was one of my favorite Giants players.

Sad indeed. He was a “great player” who was actually a great player. While I never watched much of the Giants in his hallmark years, they must have been a fabulous team with the two Willies.......

Sad indeed. He was a “great player” who was actually a great player. While I never watched much of the Giants in his hallmark years, they must have been a fabulous team with the two Willies.......

Yes, and add Orlando Cepeda to that lineup and it was awesome.

https://www.mlb.com/giants/news/what-willie-mccovey-meant-to-san-francisco/c-300082670

Some interesting video clips of Big Mac.

Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers reach new contract to keep three-time Cy Young winner in Los Angeles through 2021

MLB trade rumor buy or sell: Indians shopping veterans, including Corey Kluber -- Would the Indians really part with the likes of Kluber, Carrasco and Encarnacion?

MLB trade rumor buy or sell: Indians shopping veterans, including Corey Kluber -- Would the Indians really part with the likes of Kluber, Carrasco and Encarnacion?

Yup! I’m thinking they are in rebuild mode....watch for more movements in Cleveland.

Yup! I’m thinking they are in rebuild mode....watch for more movements in Cleveland.

We shall see.

Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers reach new contract to keep three-time Cy Young winner in Los Angeles through 2021

Keyshaw would be a tough call. Huge money but ......... on the plus side he does influence the younger Giants pitchers....so....but toooooo much money for limited output over the last two years.

Keyshaw would be a tough call. Huge money but ......... on the plus side he does influence the younger Giants pitchers....so....but toooooo much money for limited output over the last two years.

Not sure of his influence over the younger Giants pitchers. Did you mean Dodgers?

Not sure of his influence over the younger Giants pitchers. Did you mean Dodgers?

Mea Culpa, I meant Dodgers. In my mind I had him traded to the Giants...

Mea Culpa, I meant Dodgers. In my mind I had him traded to the Giants...

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the-yankees-have-cast-a-wide-net-for-pitching-and-theyre-already-discussing-kluber-other-big-names/

Interesting speculations.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/the-yankees-have-cast-a-wide-net-for-pitching-and-theyre-already-discussing-kluber-other-big-names/

Interesting speculations.

Well the Jays want Happ.....NY was a good fit for him.....I don’t get why the Yanks signed Sabathia for another year.....must have tonnes of money in the vault if they would want Happ as well.

Well the Jays want Happ.....NY was a good fit for him.....I don’t get why the Yanks signed Sabathia for another year.....must have tonnes of money in the vault if they would want Happ as well.

I think that they are hoping to squeeze one more good year out of CC. We shall see.

I think that they are hoping to squeeze one more good year out of CC. We shall see.

So the question is....if you could only have one leftie (between the two ) which would you take?

So the question is....if you could only have one leftie (between the two ) which would you take?

I would go with Happ.

https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/mays-willie?fbclid=IwAR335dyxXMQ62tCBVlKDp7JI1eX2olzKk6 OKWhJDvz1vGFkt0FzYRHRJw8g

My all time favorite baseball player.

https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/mays-willie?fbclid=IwAR335dyxXMQ62tCBVlKDp7JI1eX2olzKk6 OKWhJDvz1vGFkt0FzYRHRJw8g

My all time favorite baseball player.

I don't think you could have chosen a better player to have as your favourite. Mine would seem kind of obscure when compared to Mays.... my fav has and will always be the Wizard of Oz! Loved seeing him play and the skill he had....not to mention the back flips.

I don't think you could have chosen a better player to have as your favourite. Mine would seem kind of obscure when compared to Mays.... my fav has and will always be the Wizard of Oz! Loved seeing him play and the skill he had....not to mention the back flips.

He was a good player, Rp ................. just not a truly great player. Paix, mon ami.

He was a good player, Rp ................. just not a truly great player. Paix, mon ami.

Can’t argue with that. While I didn’t get to see him play until later in his career ( where we lived we didn’t get many games on TV.....mostly Yankee games on CBS ) it would be fair to say he might have been the greatest player in my life time.

Can’t argue with that. While I didn’t get to see him play until later in his career ( where we lived we didn’t get many games on TV.....mostly Yankee games on CBS ) it would be fair to say he might have been the greatest player in my life time.

Interesting. Joe Dimagio was a bit before my time, but I was able to see Ted Williams play in Yankee Stadium, along with Micky Mantle, and Stan Musial play against the Giants in the Polo Grounds. Saw Jackie Robinson play once against the Giants at Ebbets Field. Saw Hank Aaron play against the NY Mets a few times in Atlanta. As for hitters, I would have to say that they were the best I ever saw play in live action and not on TV.

Ran across this interesting shot of Ty Cobb of the Detroit Tigers in 1911.

Quite the uniforms back in the day.

Ran across this interesting shot of Ty Cobb of the Detroit Tigers in 1911.

Quite the uniforms back in the day.

Cool. Notice his hand grip on the bat .............. up a couple of inches, which he used to his advantage by using a heavier bat than normal but slapping at the ball ..... thus getting his record setting hits ........... until Pete Rose broke his record.

Blake Snell of the Tampa Bay Rays and Jacob deGrom of the New York Mets were named the best pitcher in their respective league when they were announced as the 2018 Cy Young Award winners on Wednesday.

Snell won the vote ahead of Justin Verlander of the Houston Astros and Corey Kluber of the Cleveland Indians to win the American League trophy.

DeGrom beat out Max Scherzer of the Washington Nationals and Aaron Nola of the Philadelphia Phillies on the National League side.

I would have voted for DeGrom. I think I might have stayed with Verlander, Kluber would have been my AL second choice.

Got to say, although the kiss of death, I was happy for Snitker as Manager of the Year. He was a long term team guy and I applaud the Braves for their loyalty from within......few are going that way today.

Sinc, Cobb would have made a mockery of the shift ..... the only goal a hitter should have is getting on base...I Don care if it is a slap, walk, or hit batsman...you don’t win if you don’t get on. Today we have too much emphasis on the home run and not enough on base movement.

I would have voted for DeGrom. I think I might have stayed with Verlander, Kluber would have been my AL second choice.

Got to say, although the kiss of death, I was happy for Snitker as Manager of the Year. He was a long term team guy and I applaud the Braves for their loyalty from within......few are going that way today.

Same here re the Cy Young awards. Great minds think alike. :D:clap:

Sinc, Cobb would have made a mockery of the shift ..... the only goal a hitter should have is getting on base...I Don care if it is a slap, walk, or hit batsman...you don’t win if you don’t get on. Today we have too much emphasis on the home run and not enough on base movement.

All too true, Rp. As Wee Willie Keeler once said "Hit em where they ain't". :clap:

Brewers' star Christian Yelich wins 2018 NL MVP honors

Red Sox's Mookie Betts, Brewers' Christian Yelich win 2018 MLB MVP honors

I don't do baseball but just came across an older Apple related mishap some might be interested in if not already mentioned:
Arizona Diamondbacks coach fined for wearing Apple Watch in dugout
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/08/apple-watch-diamondbacks/

I wonder what the fine would be for a battery operated (electronic) Timex watch, or are they allowed???


- Patrick
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I don't do baseball but just came across an older Apple related mishap some might be interested in if not already mentioned:
Arizona Diamondbacks coach fined for wearing Apple Watch in dugout
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/08/apple-watch-diamondbacks/

I wonder what the fine would be for a battery operated (electronic) Timex watch, or are they allowed???


- Patrick
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:eek::eek::eek:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/noah-syndergaard-reportedly-receiving-significant-trade-interest-but-mets-say-the-cost-would-be-steep/

I don't do baseball but just came across an older Apple related mishap some might be interested in if not already mentioned:
Arizona Diamondbacks coach fined for wearing Apple Watch in dugout
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/08/apple-watch-diamondbacks/

I wonder what the fine would be for a battery operated (electronic) Timex watch, or are they allowed???


- Patrick
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MLB has a list of allowed devices in the dugouts to try to prevent cheating (high tech "sign stealing" i guess you could call it.). Apple watch isn't on the allowed list so the Diamondbacks coach was fined. Smartphones and most tech are banned from the dugout.

Sign stealing is part of the game... if you can decode the signals a catcher is passing to the pitcher because you are a base runner on second watching, that's perfectly fine. What you aren't allowed to do is have the guy in the press box or someone in the stands watching, getting the signals the signals then using an electronic device to pass them to the dugout then relay on to the players.

BReligion

Sign stealing is part of the game...


That reminds me of the old Disney cartoon films series: "Goofy Plays Baseball", "Goofy Plays Football" etc, all of which highlighted and made fun of some electronic gadgets and other signaling devices and methods. I guess it was a cat and mouse game whether they got caught or not.



- Patrick
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That reminds me of the old Disney cartoon films series: "Goofy Plays Baseball", "Goofy Plays Football" etc, all of which highlighted and made fun of some electronic gadgets and other signaling devices and methods. I guess it was a cat and mouse game whether they got caught or not.



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What I don't understand is why everyone covers their mouth with their glove when there is a meeting on the mound. :confused:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/cardinals-in-position-to-make-mega-offer-to-bryce-harper-or-manny-machado-team-president-says/

An interesting speculation.

What I don't understand is why everyone covers their mouth with their glove when there is a meeting on the mound.


Maybe to prevent anyone from lip-reading what they are saying????

Or they might have really bad breath from all the crap they chew and they are protecting the listener???




- Patrick
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Maybe to prevent anyone from lip-reading what they are saying????

Or they might have really bad breath from all the crap they chew and they are protecting the listener???




- Patrick
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:clap::lmao:

Strike this guy out ................ big secret. :D

"The Yankees have acquired left-handed starting pitcher James Paxton from the Mariners, the team announced on Monday. Top pitching prospect Justus Sheffield, outfielder Don Thompson-Williams and right-handed pitcher Erik Swanson were shipped back to the Mariners in the deal

Paxton, 30, is a very talented pitcher with a history of injury issues. Since 2014, Paxton has made 13, 13, 20, 24 and 28 starts, respectively, per season. Last season was close to his first full-time campaign, at least. He pitched to a 3.76 ERA, 1.10 WHIP and 208 strikeouts in 160 1/3 innings. He also had two complete games and a shutout, which was a no-hitter.
The Yankees have acquired left-handed starting pitcher James Paxton from the Mariners, the team announced on Monday. Top pitching prospect Justus Sheffield, outfielder Don Thompson-Williams and right-handed pitcher Erik Swanson were shipped back to the Mariners in the deal

Paxton, 30, is a very talented pitcher with a history of injury issues. Since 2014, Paxton has made 13, 13, 20, 24 and 28 starts, respectively, per season. Last season was close to his first full-time campaign, at least. He pitched to a 3.76 ERA, 1.10 WHIP and 208 strikeouts in 160 1/3 innings. He also had two complete games and a shutout, which was a no-hitter. "

"The Yankees have acquired left-handed starting pitcher James Paxton from the Mariners, the team announced on Monday. Top pitching prospect Justus Sheffield, outfielder Don Thompson-Williams and right-handed pitcher Erik Swanson were shipped back to the Mariners in the deal

Paxton, 30, is a very talented pitcher with a history of injury issues. Since 2014, Paxton has made 13, 13, 20, 24 and 28 starts, respectively, per season. Last season was close to his first full-time campaign, at least. He pitched to a 3.76 ERA, 1.10 WHIP and 208 strikeouts in 160 1/3 innings. He also had two complete games and a shutout, which was a no-hitter.
The Yankees have acquired left-handed starting pitcher James Paxton from the Mariners, the team announced on Monday. Top pitching prospect Justus Sheffield, outfielder Don Thompson-Williams and right-handed pitcher Erik Swanson were shipped back to the Mariners in the deal

Paxton, 30, is a very talented pitcher with a history of injury issues. Since 2014, Paxton has made 13, 13, 20, 24 and 28 starts, respectively, per season. Last season was close to his first full-time campaign, at least. He pitched to a 3.76 ERA, 1.10 WHIP and 208 strikeouts in 160 1/3 innings. He also had two complete games and a shutout, which was a no-hitter. "

So, I wonder if the Yanks have given up on signing Happ?

:clap::lmao:

Strike this guy out ................ big secret. :D

No secrets here (Language warning for those offended by the F word)…

W9665weLclE


But in all seriousness with only 6 visits per game now, they relay a lot more in those mound visits then they used to.

BReligion

Man, have theses guys never seen a football game....they teal from each other all the time. Next thing you know they will have radio ear pieces to communicate with each other.....

So, I wonder if the Yanks have given up on signing Happ?

I hope not. I like Happ.

Man, have theses guys never seen a football game....they teal from each other all the time. Next thing you know they will have radio ear pieces to communicate with each other.....

They already do. The QBs have a small head set under their helmets to hear plays sent in from the coach.

They already do. The QBs have a small head set under their helmets to hear plays sent in from the coach.

I was meaning there use in baseball.

I was meaning there use in baseball.

:confused::o Oops. No head phones that I know of, Rp. Still, I think that covering one's mouth is silly.

Man, have theses guys never seen a football game....they teal from each other all the time. Next thing you know they will have radio ear pieces to communicate with each other.....

I heard rumor of MLB considering just that sadly. Putting an earpiece on the pitcher and have the dugout relay the call straight to the pitcher. Really Really hope they don't ever do that. That will completely kill the role of the backcather to that simply of the a glorified backstop.

BReligion

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-bryce-harper-at-first-base-the-yankees-have-discussed-the-possibility-of-signing-the-star-free-agent-slugger/

Another interesting rumor.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mets-reportedly-seriously-considering-noah-syndergaard-trade-will-they-pull-off-a-deal/

More rumors.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mets-reportedly-seriously-considering-noah-syndergaard-trade-will-they-pull-off-a-deal/

More rumors.

I still say he will become a Giant!

I still say he will become a Giant!

Hope so. :clap::clap::clap:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-free-agency-braves-josh-donaldson-agree-to-one-year-23-million-deal/

Rp, what do you think of this signing? I wish he was back with the Jays, or have been signed by the Giants or Mets.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-free-agency-braves-josh-donaldson-agree-to-one-year-23-million-deal/

Rp, what do you think of this signing? I wish he was back with the Jays, or have been signed by the Giants or Mets.

Well, I wonder where their GM came from.......... all kidding aside it isn’t a contract I’d offer. The Braves will have some money issues in the very near future. Somebody there is moving and they don’t know it yet.

Well, I wonder where their GM came from.......... all kidding aside it isn’t a contract I’d offer. The Braves will have some money issues in the very near future. Somebody there is moving and they don’t know it yet.

A good estimate of the situation, Rp. We shall see.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/giants-reportedly-are-willing-to-discuss-a-madison-bumgarner-trade-brewers-and-phillies-are-interested/

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/giants-reportedly-are-willing-to-discuss-a-madison-bumgarner-trade-brewers-and-phillies-are-interested/

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Their farm system may not be worth the price of trading him.....they aren’t Atlanta nor are they the Padres......I think it’s a poor opportunity cost.

Their farm system may not be worth the price of trading him.....they aren’t Atlanta nor are they the Padres......I think it’s a poor opportunity cost.

So very true.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/nationals-sound-like-theyve-moved-on-from-bryce-harper-mark-lerner-calls-300m-offer-best-we-can-do/

Interesting. Wonder who will want him???

Not many teams can eat that much money. I think the Dodgers are likely.....Yanks could but not sure they want to go there. He’s young but at $350 million you could own a team....... he may just stay with the Nationals ...... what impacts this is Machado...... both those guys are big money but we have to look at need. The Yanks would probably lean toward Machado over Harper......also the Yanks need a leftie, Happ won’t be cheap, sooooooo.

Harper, might be on the Phillies radar, but I still think the Dodgers or...........the Giants. He is a big market guy.

Not many teams can eat that much money. I think the Dodgers are likely.....Yanks could but not sure they want to go there. He’s young but at $350 million you could own a team....... he may just stay with the Nationals ...... what impacts this is Machado...... both those guys are big money but we have to look at need. The Yanks would probably lean toward Machado over Harper......also the Yanks need a leftie, Happ won’t be cheap, sooooooo.

Harper, might be on the Phillies radar, but I still think the Dodgers or...........the Giants. He is a big market guy.

Rp, the winter meetings are going to be interesting. We shall see.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/why-trading-madison-bumgarner-and-other-massive-contracts-would-make-sense-for-the-giants/

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not Mad Bum ...................

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/why-trading-madison-bumgarner-and-other-massive-contracts-would-make-sense-for-the-giants/

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not Mad Bum ...................

This is interesting. He’s not that old and he is still a good pitcher but because he is in the NL he can hit......and he’s not a bad hitter. This would be tough if I was the GM of the Giants....... I don’t think I’d trade him.

This is interesting. He’s not that old and he is still a good pitcher but because he is in the NL he can hit......and he’s not a bad hitter. This would be tough if I was the GM of the Giants....... I don’t think I’d trade him.

I agree. Build around him. We shall see.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/corey-kluber-trade-rumors-dodgers-indians-talks-intensifying-at-mlb-winter-meetings/

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-winter-meetings-rumors-updates-yankees-cashman-seem-uninterested-in-harper-phillies-braves-eyeing-happ/

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-winter-meetings-rumors-updates-dodgers-talking-yasiel-puig-trade-rays-twins-vying-for-nelson-cruz/

More interesting rumors.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/blue-jays-release-troy-tulowitzki-with-two-years-and-38-million-remaining-on-his-contract/

Sad, I liked him.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/andrew-mccutchen-phillies-agree-to-three-year-50-million-deal-reports-say/

I liked him as well, but he did not produce for my Giants.

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/jays-trade-russell-martin-to-dodgers-1.4975126?fbclid=IwAR21gbinV_W-knXrjAkbooPAd39qTt8RbA9SHWEuciqjpil5gCqxtfLn7w8

Sadly, yet another one of my favorite Jays is gone.

Or is it because the Dodgers got him. Actually it was a great pick up for them as the Jays will eat most of his salary. Almost as good as the Tut deal.

Not sure I’d keep Stroman if I was the Jays brain trust.....

Or is it because the Dodgers got him. Actually it was a great pick up for them as the Jays will eat most of his salary. Almost as good as the Tut deal.

Not sure I’d keep Stroman if I was the Jays brain trust.....

Crappy for the Jays ............. they pay for someone who is on another team. :confused::confused::eek::ptptptptp

Marc, they are becoming the Mets....

Marc, they are becoming the Mets....

:confused::eek::-(:-(:-(

Yankees legend Mariano Rivera, MLB's all-time leader in saves, voted baseball's first unanimous Hall of Fame inductee

Rivera, a 13-time all-star who recorded 652 career saves for New York, was selected by all 425 Baseball Writers' Association of America members who cast ballots in this year's voting. Rivera appeared in 96 postseason games, recording 42 more saves across 19 years and helping the Yankees to World Series titles in 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2009.

Edgar Martinez, Mike Mussina and Roy Halladay were also voted in Tuesday.

Good for Halliday, Rivera was a no brainer. However you could build a serial winning team from those not in the HOF. That said MLB’s is pretty tough to get in. Personally I think Belle, Garvey and Rose should be in.

I find HOFs in general are too easy to get in if your team wins but great players are ignored if they haven’t won a championship. What I always wanted to see is a fixed number of players in....say 100. If you want to add a player in someone has to come out. You could increase the number per era. So one a year in each decade. So for this decade that number would be 110.... recognizing that some years no one deserves to get in. That would be interesting....

Good for Halliday, Rivera was a no brainer. However you could build a serial winning team from those not in the HOF. That said MLB’s is pretty tough to get in. Personally I think Belle, Garvey and Rose should be in.

I find HOFs in general are too easy to get in if your team wins but great players are ignored if they haven’t won a championship. What I always wanted to see is a fixed number of players in....say 100. If you want to add a player in someone has to come out. You could increase the number per era. So one a year in each decade. So for this decade that number would be 110.... recognizing that some years no one deserves to get in. That would be interesting....

An interesting idea.

Yogi Berra was sound asleep at 2am when the phone rang. The caller, Whitey Ford, said, “Hi Yogi, hope I didn’t wake you.” Yogi answered, “ It’s ok, I had to get up to answer the phone anyway.”

Yogi Berra was sound asleep at 2am when the phone rang. The caller, Whitey Ford, said, “Hi Yogi, hope I didn’t wake you.” Yogi answered, “ It’s ok, I had to get up to answer the phone anyway.”

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Classic Yogi. :clap:

Rp, two interesting rule changes are being considered by MLBPA. Your thoughts?

The Major League Baseball Players Association is reportedly pushing to add a designated hitter to National League rosters as soon as this season,
and they are pushing for a three-batter minimum for pitchers to speed up the game.

I saw this. It seems the Commish doesn’t see that the TV breaks are what slows the game. However the DH has always been an issue. Putting one in the NL, at least to me, destroys the charm of the league. In fact instead of adding a DH to the NL, I would dump the DH in the AL.

A minimum 3 batter rule would eliminate left handed pitching. A better rule would be to have a minimum of 3 pitchers warmup before the game and during for immediate insert. We have seen a trend to this with the concept of opening pitchers. My father always thought this was a good idea...he was years ahead of his time.

20 second pitch clock, okay but as I’ve always said once you are in the batters box you don’t step out...that would save time for sure.

I agree with the trade dead line....in fact the longer you can meld with a new team the better.

Expansion of rosters, the MLBPA would love this...maybe a compromise to the DH in the NL.

Reduction of mount visits.....not sure, I didn’t think the older rules were the issue....just speed the clock on them.

I am against putting a man on second base in extra innings...

I’m surprised they haven’t changed the number of foul balls.... I don’t see someone whacking 12 out of play as exciting, however if you bent one foul on your 3rd strike you are out.....

And back to the TV commercial breaks.

The game by its very nature has a couple of hours of 'dead' time. Between batters or while the pitcher is getting his signals straight, do image over or split screen commercials. Save the breaks for between innings and keep them very short, exactly the length of time it takes for the defense to take the field.

Given the 16:9 aspect ratio of modern screens split screen (preferably silent) commercials are a major league no-brainer.

eMacMan, I’ve seen this with football games and it does the job without stopping the game.....I agree.

"In fact instead of adding a DH to the NL, I would dump the DH in the AL." I agree, Rp.

"We have seen a trend to this with the concept of opening pitchers. My father always thought this was a good idea...he was years ahead of his time." Yes, very interesting concept. A starter comes in during the 4/5th inning to "save" the game and get the W.

And back to the TV commercial breaks.

The game by its very nature has a couple of hours of 'dead' time. Between batters or while the pitcher is getting his signals straight, do image over or split screen commercials. Save the breaks for between innings and keep them very short, exactly the length of time it takes for the defense to take the field.

Given the 16:9 aspect ratio of modern screens split screen (preferably silent) commercials are a major league no-brainer.

Very good idea. :clap::clap:

Just heard that Hall of Fame slugger Frank Robinson has passed away at the age of 83.

I saw him play against the Mets in the NL and the Yankees in the AL when he was with the Reds and then the Orioles.

Other than being a great hitter, Robinson, in 1975, became player-manager of the Indians and in doing so became the first African-American manager in major-league history. At one point, he was also the manager of my team, the SF Giants.

He shall be missed.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-agents-for-bryce-harper-manny-machado-still-seeking-300m-deals-inside-marlins-phillies-trade/

Way too much money.

Here's a wee bit of history and fun for the thread.

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I actually recall that episode of Mr. Ed.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-giants-are-serious-about-bryce-harper-pirates-sign-melky-cabrera-to-minor-league-deal/

Interesting. Anything to get them back into the World Series is fine with me.

40 days until opening day. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/aaron-judge-batting-leadoff-yankees-aaron-boone-will-consider-the-lineup-change-in-2019/

Interesting.

Haven’t read any new news lately but I still think the Yanks will grab Machado to cover for the ailing DiDi and the Phillies will grab Harper....

Haven’t read any new news lately but I still think the Yanks will grab Machado to cover for the ailing DiDi and the Phillies will grab Harper....

We shall see. Taking a long time, however. As well, I hear that this is a possibility of a players strike comes the All Star break. We shall see.

This was just announced. 2019 will be Bruce Bochy’s final season as the manager of the SF Giants. :(

https://www.mlb.com/giants/news/bruce-bochy-will-retire-after-2019-season/c-304113650?fbclid=IwAR3TXhi_XVNM3WdqbODcDQTXvQ01CH2 RkXQSZJl4eCioErd9Bh42Hv7JEoU

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Breaking news.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/19/manny-machado-to-padres-in-surprise-end-to-endless-saga/?fbclid=IwAR2f4wBnys03LTexbZL9JKnf6G2rpUger9Z7F6gw aPD2wWHBFAl_d1hbfko

Marc, a friend of mine who you would say "knows" told me this was in the works. Personally I still had him going to the Yanks.....that said, the Yanks must have a line on someone or they have someone. DiDi will be tough to replace and I can't see them not having that situation in place.

This leaves Harper, and as I've said for a while, I still think he is going to the Phillies.

San D was on my list last year and I think they still might be there this year. I will have to see how they go in the Spring Training sessions. They have such a great farm system and have some tremendous prospects coming up....they could be this year's Atlanta.

San D will be excited I think......

Marc, a friend of mine who you would say "knows" told me this was in the works. Personally I still had him going to the Yanks.....that said, the Yanks must have a line on someone or they have someone. DiDi will be tough to replace and I can't see them not having that situation in place.

This leaves Harper, and as I've said for a while, I still think he is going to the Phillies.

San D was on my list last year and I think they still might be there this year. I will have to see how they go in the Spring Training sessions. They have such a great farm system and have some tremendous prospects coming up....they could be this year's Atlanta.

San D will be excited I think......

Still, I am hoping for a healthy SF Giants team this year ................ who go all the way to victory in the World Series. We shall see.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-rumors-dodgers-back-in-the-mix-club-officials-spotted-in-las-vegas-over-the-weekend/

Please keep him out of the NL West.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-rumors-dodgers-back-in-the-mix-club-officials-spotted-in-las-vegas-over-the-weekend/

Please keep him out of the NL West.

May be interesting. Giants and Dodgers are probably looking at a high price short term deal. The Phillies might up the ante with both money and term. I’m still thinking the Phillies but who knows. If the Dodgers and Giants come in with, say a 5 year, he can do the free agent trick again and he will be only 31....not too old for a baseball guy.

May be interesting. Giants and Dodgers are probably looking at a high price short term deal. The Phillies might up the ante with both money and term. I’m still thinking the Phillies but who knows. If the Dodgers and Giants come in with, say a 5 year, he can do the free agent trick again and he will be only 31....not too old for a baseball guy.

I just want to see a healthy Giants team this year ........... with their regulars having career seasons .................. and some of the subs having a great year as well. We shall see.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-bryce-harper-giants-meet-again-as-phillies-chances-take-a-hit-didi-gregorius-likely-out-past-june/

Wow!!!!!!!!!!

You’d be able to almost buy a team with what his contract will be.....

You’d be able to almost buy a team with what his contract will be.....

Sadly, all too true. I still wonder if he is worth this sort of money. I don't think so.

Bryce Harper is leaving the Nationals for the Philadelphia Phillies, ending months of suspense

I was waiting for your post. Should be interesting in that division.

I was waiting for your post. Should be interesting in that division.

True. Harper's Phillies contract is largest in history of North American sports
The outfielder agreed to a record-setting 13-year, $330 million contract with Philadelphia. In a way, I am glad the SF Giants did not get him for that amount.

Interesting possibilities.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-justin-verlander-not-close-to-thinking-about-retirement-astros-and-phillies-in-on-dallas-keuchel/

Interesting possibilities.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-rumors-justin-verlander-not-close-to-thinking-about-retirement-astros-and-phillies-in-on-dallas-keuchel/

I think of the two the Phillies have the best shot.

I think of the two the Phillies have the best shot.

We shall see.

I read an article on CNN.com that in a couple of years, Mike Trout will get a $400 free agency contract. Again, we shall see.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2824203-hall-of-fame-sp-tom-seaver-diagnosed-with-dementia-will-retire-from-public-life?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

So sad. One of my favorite Mets.

The Yankees, Houston and Boston are have 7-1 odds of winning the World Series, with the Jays at 91-1 .............. and my Giants at 126-1. Mets are at 23-1, so one of my teams might make it all the way. We shall see.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/19/mike-trout-on-verge-of-jaw-dropping-430-million-angels-deal/?fbclid=IwAR1vISP0_tS7ZMxrhnT4h_NkmwSS9cwGlsQQw4_-y7_cUGGDFHbXv6lHyZ8

No one is worth this sort of money, regardless of the sport.

You have to sell lot of fish tacos and tube steaks to cover that expense!

You have to sell lot of fish tacos and tube steaks to cover that expense!

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No one is worth this sort of money, regardless of the sport.

Talked about this the other day at work.... I totally get agents and the lifestyle and all that other crap... but..

Do you know how amazing it would be if I were able to make my own salary (which isn't even a real fraction of what these guys are talking) to flippin play Baseball every day?!

BReligion

Talked about this the other day at work.... I totally get agents and the lifestyle and all that other crap... but..

Do you know how amazing it would be if I were able to make my own salary (which isn't even a real fraction of what these guys are talking) to flippin play Baseball every day?!

BReligion

Playing baseball .............. YES!!!! I wanted to play alongside of my favorite player, Willie Mays, one of the best players of all time. His top salary, in today's value, would be less than some third-string outfielders are earning. Still, in a way we are all paying for their salaries in that even if we don't have the money or location to go to a base ball game, we pay extra for the products that advertise on sports channels on TV.

Good one.