: Schiller: No new Mac Pro, Display in 2017


CubaMark
Apr 4th, 2017, 11:52 AM
I think this is unprecedented... Apple VP Phil Schiller talking this openly about product plans? When did that ever happen?

Apple to ditch the current Mac Pro design (https://www.axios.com/apple-to-ditch-the-current-mac-pro-design-but-replacement-wont-arrive--2343465726.html)

Apple has decided to move away from the current, cylinder-shaped design used on its Mac Pro desktop, but creating a replacement will take until next year, executives said on Monday.

In a rare admission of a misstep, executives conceded the unusual design limited Apple's ability to offer meaningful upgrades and failed to meet many pro users' needs. Top executives said the company has begun work on a new desktop and a professional monitor.

"You won't see any of these products this year," Senior Vice President Phil Schiller told a handful of reporters in a discussion at Apple's offices in Cupertino. "It's important to do something great. That will take longer than this year to do."

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In the interim, Apple plans to introduce new versions of the iMac with components more geared to professionals later this year. Also, later on Tuesday, it will announce a modest performance update to the existing Mac Pro in an attempt to tide over those who rely on Apple's highest-end machine. The updated configurations will add more processor cores and improved graphics performance.

Among the other points discussed:

Apple reiterated its commitment both to the Mac and to professional users as well as to continuing to develop pro software such as Final Cut and Logic. "The Mac has an important, long future at Apple," Schiller said. "We have every intention to keep investing in the Mac."

Schiller apologized for the slowness of upgrades with the Mac Pro. "We're sorry for what happened with the Mac Pro. We are going to come out with something great to replace it."

The company has no plans for touchscreen Macs, or for machines powered solely by the kind of ARM processors used in the iPhone and iPad. However, executives left open the possibility ARM chips could play a broader role as companion processors, something that showed up first with the T1 processor that powers the Touch Bar in the new MacBook Pro.

(Axios (https://www.axios.com/apple-to-ditch-the-current-mac-pro-design-but-replacement-wont-arrive--2343465726.html))

monokitty
Apr 4th, 2017, 11:56 AM
I think this is unprecedented...

Damage control.

wonderings
Apr 4th, 2017, 12:09 PM
The previous Mac Pro/G5 tower was my favourite design. It was a perfect blend of design and function. I remember getting my Dual G5 tower and marvelling at the inside, so spacious, clean and well laid out. Swapping or adding hard drives was insanely easy and RAM was easy to get at. Even The PowerMac G4's were a better design and easier to get into and work on then any PC I had ever used or been inside of.

With the direction Apple has been heading lately I do not have high hopes up for anything amazing outside of some boosted specs. I would be more then happy to be wrong of course and see the Apple of old, with great innovation balancing function and form and actually making my life better with useful and well thought out updates.

HowEver
Apr 4th, 2017, 12:56 PM
The daringfireball.net version of this story is far more informative and useful.

Daring Fireball: The Mac Pro Lives (http://daringfireball.net/2017/04/the_mac_pro_lives)

eMacMan
Apr 4th, 2017, 01:34 PM
I wonder how the resale value of the current garbage can model is holding up? It was like they took 90% of the things I disliked about the home market Macs and incorporated them into the pro model.

gwillikers
Apr 4th, 2017, 10:57 PM
I have to admit that I breathed a sigh of relief upon hearing this news. I never wanted to switch entirely to Windows, but was considering it. Fingers crossed that they come up with something great. But I do realize that "modular" and "upgradable" can be two entirely different things. hmm

Still, over 4 years of no new Mac Pro updates is a hell of a long time to expect Mac enthusiasts to wait.

hexdiy
Apr 5th, 2017, 12:25 AM
I surely hope Apple will match the capabilities and expandability of the Cray supercomputer this time around...

Technology is ready for it, Apple holds a ton of of patents, Moore's law has reached its apex, and no one in the professional world will mind aestetics. Go once again, Apple, go!

http://www.cray.com/sites/default/files/products_category_image_xc_series_02.png

Up against a powerhouse...

hexdiy
Apr 5th, 2017, 01:05 AM
I have to admit that I breathed a sigh of relief upon hearing this news. I never wanted to switch entirely to Windows, but was considering it. Fingers crossed that they come up with something great. But I do realize that "modular" and "upgradable" can be two entirely different things. hmm

Still, over 4 years of no new Mac Pro updates is a hell of a long time to expect Mac enthusiasts to wait.

Admitted, gwillikers.
However, you might want to consider OEMDEN.COM, piker alpha and DOSDUDE1 to upgrade your existing hardware.

Hope this helps!

gwillikers
Apr 5th, 2017, 02:22 AM
Admitted, gwillikers.
However, you might want to consider OEMDEN.COM, piker alpha and DOSDUDE1 to upgrade your existing hardware.

Hope this helps!

Already done. I'm running Sierra 10.12.4 on my Mac Pro 4,1 with the 5,1 firmware hack.

I do worry about my machine dying in the interim though. Hurry up Apple!

Macfury
Apr 5th, 2017, 08:14 AM
I use my Mac Pro for pro functions but have been able to get away with remaining comfortably behind the curve. Happily using a 3,1 with Photoshop CS5. I have been eyeing a top 5,1 model, which I thought would be my final real Mac Pro because I never wanted an octopus of critical components spilling across my desk from that garbage can shape. I was already imagining a future where I was buying a hackintosh placed inside a Mac Pro tower case to run the latest OS.

This news has temporarily suspended my image of a future hackintosh, but I have no faith at all in Apple under Tim Cook to deliver anything worthwhile.

I have to admit that I breathed a sigh of relief upon hearing this news. I never wanted to switch entirely to Windows, but was considering it. Fingers crossed that they come up with something great. But I do realize that "modular" and "upgradable" can be two entirely different things. hmm

Still, over 4 years of no new Mac Pro updates is a hell of a long time to expect Mac enthusiasts to wait.

Arkay
Apr 5th, 2017, 12:10 PM
This news has temporarily suspended my image of a future hackintosh, but I have no faith at all in Apple under Tim Cook to deliver anything worthwhile.

Me neither. It's past time Cook and Ives were shown the no-outside-doorknob minimalist exit. Of course it would never happen.

The first hour or so of the May 5 netcast of MacBreak Weekly (youtube.com/watch?v=XjLHEm804Og) goes into a Mac Pro trash-can-diving autopsy of Apple’s history-making mea culpa.

Those on the usual panel pointed out that the five reporters invited to Apple's "summit" meeting in its efforts to contain the damage included no one from the world of print — no one from the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal, no Walt Mossberg or David Pogue types.

gwillikers
Apr 5th, 2017, 09:07 PM
The first hour or so of the May 5 netcast of MacBreak Weekly (youtube.com/watch?v=XjLHEm804Og) goes into a Mac Pro trash-can-diving autopsy of Apple’s history-making mea culpa.

I think I'll listen to that podcast episode.
But I have to laugh, because there's a nasty bug in iTunes version 12.6.0.100 which doesn't allow the downloading of individual podcasts. Pushing the "get" button does nothing. Tons of people are affected by this bug, and Apple is well aware of it. Until they issue a fix, there is a temporary work around.

Strange times at Apple. :confused: