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Old Feb 4th, 2012, 12:53 PM   #61
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Most of these arguments ignore that the lawyer suing Apple WON.
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Old Feb 4th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #62
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Most of these arguments ignore that the lawyer suing Apple WON.
Except he didn't. Apple settled out of court.
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Old Feb 4th, 2012, 01:08 PM   #63
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Except he didn't. Apple settled out of court.
Which makes one wonder what REALLY happened.

On the surface it sounds as if Apple couldn't possibly have lost - in fact, if the case was as described I would have expected the judge to throw it out before it even comes to a trial.
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Which makes one wonder what REALLY happened.

On the surface it sounds as if Apple couldn't possibly have lost - in fact, if the case was as described I would have expected the judge to throw it out before it even comes to a trial.
Settling would likely be cheaper than taking the PR hit.
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Old Feb 4th, 2012, 01:57 PM   #65
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When I read the original article again, the lady who had her iPhone stoled out of her hand should have bought this cell phone instead - see very end.

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As to the lawyer - I don't see how this could have become a PR issue - Apple and others who do this just leave themselves wide open for someone else to try the same bs.
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Settling would likely be cheaper than taking the PR hit.
Since when does Apple care about PR hits? I mean...rly? That's just hilarious.
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Old Feb 4th, 2012, 06:05 PM   #67
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How is that not a win for the lawyer?

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Except he didn't. Apple settled out of court.
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Old Feb 5th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #68
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The article says the lawyer was given a $2300 credit for the Mac store. It doesn't say how they arrived at that settlement though. It could be stemming just from the fact that Apple serviced the mac after it was stolen, not for anything else. As well, notice his legal fees were only $345. He got his money back and less than one hour of his time to file this lawsuit. However, when you subtract the fees for filing a lawsuit (minimum $175 for court fees in Ontario just to file plus another $50 or so to serve Apple), he basically got his money back for the computer.

So, in essence, he got compensated for Apple not doing anything about servicing his stolen macbook, that's it. He didn't really win but he didn't lose either. Actually, he kinda did lose when you figure he had his back window smashed out, which he would most likely pay the deductible for through his insurance plus the fact I guarantee it took more than one hour of his time to file this suit (as I don't know of any lawyers here in Toronto who charge less than $375 an hour for their time).

Now that I read the article over again, I have to agree that he should have been compensated for this in full. Apple needs to seize stolen laptops right off the bat, at least notifying the original owners or the police when they come across something that's potentially been stolen.
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Now that I read the article over again, I have to agree that he should have been compensated for this in full. Apple needs to seize stolen laptops right off the bat, at least notifying the original owners or the police when they come across something that's potentially been stolen.
Why?

Apple is not a law enforcement agency. They have no authority to seize a damn thing, regardless of it's history. Furthermore, seizing stolen property, or refusing to service it because it's stolen, puts Apple employees and other customers at risk from violent criminals.

Aside from being illegal, I'm fairly certain that Apple's insurer would nix the idea.

The most Apple could do would be to accept the computer for repair, and contact the authorities instead of actually repairing it. With millions of devices sold, managing the stolen/not stolen status of a device is rather daunting.
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No, they don't have the legal authority to do it but there should be the moral and ethical authority to do it.

My dog was microchipped when we first got him. The practice, with most reputable or respected vets is to now scan the dog first before even looking at them, just to see if the dog was ever reported missing or stolen. There was a dog here in Toronto who was stolen when he was tied outside of a shop and the owner got him back because the thieves took the dog to a vet to get him checked out (goodness knows why but it worked out for the owner).

So if you can do it for a dog, why not an Apple product like an iphone or computer?
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