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Old Jan 12th, 2012, 02:16 AM   #21
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If you've never used ANY of the Canadian approved taxation software, I think you'll be amazed with the speed and the various "savings" and options available when using any, and I'd suggest that even the slowest is, at a minimum at least a few thousand times faster, and more accurate that you could do compared to any sort of paper type of calculation.

If you want an off-line free version to try out, download and try some such as the Canadian "Freeway for Mac" and just give it a try.

As an alternative if you're just looking for speed for your tax submission only, which I sure wouldn't recommend just to save some time - and IF they even still allow it, is to do do what a fellow I knew some years ago and starting his new business.

He just picked up the tax package from the post office, wrote his name and particular required info etc. on the basic applicable submission form, and put in ALL his applicable receipts or duplicates etc. into the return envelope and sent it off for them to sort out and calculate.

His reasoning was that they would be doing the same sort of thing with any sort of confirmation check anyway.

But just try out some of the suggestions provided, and most are free to at least try, and then decide.

But ALL computer methods are way faster and more efficient than any paper/pen methods. And the Canadian Government Tax department actually wants most users to use their approved software submission options. And doing so helps save your paid tax money.

But at this present time of year, it no computer taxation software has been approved for use:
"There is no software or Web application certified for use with the 2012 NETFILE Program (2011 tax return) at this time. ..."
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But freeway for Mac does have a beta version to try if you want.
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Old Jan 12th, 2012, 09:05 AM   #22
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All nicely answered Sonal, thanks.

Aside from the convenience of NETFILE, though, do you actually save any time preparing your return?
I do. As you say, the lengthy part of doing a tax return is still gathering the information. But there is some time saved in not having to actually do or check the math, even though it's not particularly complicated math. Also, I only ever have to enter each number once--any place it gets copied is done automatically.

For me in particular, since I'm self-employed and electronically file my own T4, contribute to my RRSPs online, etc., it has a slight advantage in that my T4 and some of the other information I need to enter are all things I can look up on or from my computer anyway--I don't have to wait for all the slips and forms to be mailed to me.

Since you can start and stop, one way in which this might be easier in your situation is that as each piece of information comes in, you could enter it. Saves you having to gather everything later.
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Old Jan 12th, 2012, 09:34 AM   #23
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Personally I'd prefer to spend a bit more time on any tax preparation and possibly save MANY $$$ when doing so before using any NETFILE type submission.

IE: A small bit of extra time spent doing and checking any available options, which are almost instantaneous, can often save you a large amount of $$$$.
I'm sure this is true for some people, but I suspect that for most people in Canada, their taxes are pretty simple--there are not many options to be checked, and many of them won't save the average Canadian very much.

If you've never done a tax return by hand, I suggest you give it a try.

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But at this present time of year, it no computer taxation software has been approved for use:
"There is no software or Web application certified for use with the 2012 NETFILE Program (2011 tax return) at this time. ..."
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Well, seeing as employers still have another day or two to remit December's payroll taxes, and neither T4s nor T5s are due until February 28th, that's not exactly a pressing issue yet.
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Old Jan 12th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #24
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All the feedback has been very informative. I'm now inclined to test the tax program waters. Freeway For Mac sounds like a good place to start. And how can I go wrong if it's "at a minimum at least a few thousand times faster"?
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Old Jan 12th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #25
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I've used Taxtron for years. (It used to be Griftax). I began using it when Intuit cancelled their Mac tax program.

I like to be able to access past returns on my own computer.

I have found Taxtron's technical support very responsive whenever I've run into problems.

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I've used Taxtron for years. (It used to be Griftax). I began using it when Intuit cancelled their Mac tax program.

I like to be able to access past returns on my own computer.

I have found Taxtron's technical support very responsive whenever I've run into problems.

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I just PDF them and keep my past returns on my computer.
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I have found Taxtron's technical support very responsive whenever I've run into problems.

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I just PDF them and keep my past returns on my computer.
Yeah, I do the same thing. I save the tax files as PDF (either the software gives the option or you just select print and their's an option to save as PDF). I also keep a copy of the .TAX file and the netfile confirmation.

I've done tax returns manually (a few years back) and using the software, and I think the software saves you a couple of hours. Basically the software just gets you to input the info from your T4 and other tax info forms into clones of the forms in the software. Other than that you give it your charitable donations info, rrsp info, etc. The software places this in the proper places on the form and does all the calculations.
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I use Mail to set up an appointment with our accountant, iCal to track the appointment, and Quicken under Parallels to prepare a cheque to pay the bill.
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