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Old Aug 15th, 2011, 09:51 PM   #21
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I disagree that FCPX isn't meant for Pros. I do agree that the transition was handled badly and that a lot of pros aren't in a good place right now. I also agree that FCPX in it's current form can not be used by a some video pros. But I also believe this problem is temporary for a good many of them.
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Old Aug 16th, 2011, 12:52 PM   #22
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I disagree that FCPX isn't meant for Pros. I do agree that the transition was handled badly and that a lot of pros aren't in a good place right now. I also agree that FCPX in it's current form can not be used by a some video pros. But I also believe this problem is temporary for a good many of them.
Then what would Pro's use for professional editting?
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Old Aug 16th, 2011, 01:34 PM   #23
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Lots of video pro's are jumping ship (back) to Avid Media Composer.

@hayesk: We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, but I think it might also come down to your definition of pros. I'm talking about higher-end stuff, movie editing, TV editing, etc., not people doing wedding videos or lower budget stuff. People that need the features that FCPX doesn't yet support that don't have the time or ambition to wait around for a few years to see if FCPX gets them back or not. Even if it's a temporary problem this is not the sort of thing that you change once a year. For the bigger setups that are no longer able to use FCPX that have made the decision to go (back) to Avid I doubt they will come back to FCPX, ever. Too big of an investment in time, money, workflow, training, additional hardware, etc. LOTS of those same professionals are pretty upset about the whole situation too. Within the last few of years they've had pretty much their whole setups discontinued from beneath their feet. Xserves and Xserve RAID -- gone, Final Cut Server -- gone, Final Cut Pro -- gone, Shake -- gone, Color --gone. That's exactly what a lot of larger setups used to run.
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Lots of video pro's are jumping ship (back) to Avid Media Composer.
Agreed, but I'd say that many pros would/should only jump if they have something they Can't do in FCP7 right now and Avid will do it better.

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People that need the features that FCPX doesn't yet support that don't have the time or ambition to wait around for a few years to see if FCPX gets them back or not. Even if it's a temporary problem this is not the sort of thing that you change once a year. For the bigger setups that are no longer able to use FCPX that have made the decision to go (back) to Avid I doubt they will come back to FCPX, ever. Too big of an investment in time, money, workflow, training, additional hardware, etc. LOTS of those same professionals are pretty upset about the whole situation too. Within the last few of years they've had pretty much their whole setups discontinued from beneath their feet. Xserves and Xserve RAID -- gone, Final Cut Server -- gone, Final Cut Pro -- gone, Shake -- gone, Color --gone. That's exactly what a lot of larger setups used to run.
Again, if you have FCP7 and an XServe Raid already, why would you toss those to go to Avid? Unless you need something Avid offers, or need more server space, etc... Otherwise, I'd bet that a shop that has FCP7 with FCP Server and Shake/Color etc... already, would stick with those for a bit, rather than jump whole-hog to Avid, unless it's out of spite or something.
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The vast majority of FCP users are not bleeding-edge types who absolutely must have the latest and greatest feature-set. They're people cutting documentaries, news bits, art projects, vanilla television shows, etc. These folks might complain, but none will jump ship to Avid just because FCPX doesn't do what they (think) they want it to do. Their existing FCP installations will continue ticking along just fine and they'll continue to do their jobs and make a living. They can wait to upgrade when FCPX matures. Many of them will upgrade to FCPX now, because it *will* do everything they need it to do.

I was a digital video instructor, starting out on AVID Media Composer 3.5 on a PowerMac 8100/100. We moved up through another couple of AVID upgrades before finally, sick of AVID's ridiculous control issues and proprietary hardware, we jumped ship to FCP. That enabled our artist-run centre to use the Mac towers for FCP and any damn thing else we needed. The AVID - man, if you dared to install anything other than MC on the hard drive, it threw up its virtual hands and had a hissy fit. Hell, upgrading QuickTime by a .1 release was enough to shut you down for a full reinstall.

AVID has probably become less imposing since those early days... but I'd still rather have FCP, in any flavour, than have to deal with that company again.
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Old Aug 16th, 2011, 04:27 PM   #26
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What happens when thunderbolt external drives start to appear and you've got your tb port feeding your apple monitor? I'd rather take advantage of transfer speeds to a drive rather than waste the port on the monitor. Or are we going to see tb hubs?

Anyone know?
As I understood from the demo of Thunderbolt was that you can Daisy-chain devices so you don't need a hub you just connect each device to each other.

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