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Old Jul 13th, 2011, 05:14 PM   #1
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I've been using mostly Firefox for years but since I switched to Macs, I've been using Safari on and off. I've been using it exclusively for the last week or so and have a couple of questions I hope someone can shed some light on.

When I close and reopen Safari, which it seems I must do to get it to release the large amounts of memory it's been using, or after a reboot, it opens only the Home Page. I would like it to reopen all tabs from last time. Is there a way to do this?

I know I can reopen all windows from last session but of course, this means I then have two windows open and when I did that a few minutes ago, it only opened the Home Page, forcing me to reopen about 20 pages one by one.

The second issue is that when I reopen Safari, all the pages are at the default size. I have a 27" iMac and I have to command click + to get the pages to a readable size for my old eyes. Firefox reopens everything just the way it was. How can I get Safari to do this too?

I know I can simply not use Safari but it does some things I like that Firefox does not do.
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Old Jul 13th, 2011, 08:12 PM   #2
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Go to https://extensions.apple.com/ and select the "SafariRestore" extension
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If you find a solution to the memory release issue, let me know. I have the habit of actually using tabs (why else would you have 'em as a feature?). My bookmarks bar has folders that auto-open between 20 and 30 tabs at a go -> the sites I check daily. But Safari just does not like to release memory and becomes completely unusable in short order.

I'm trying to remember to deal with one group at a time, quit and relaunch Safari before going on to the next group, but it's a pain in the ***. I've also separated out a number of sites (BoingBoing, LifeHacker, Mac.iLounge, iFans) into a separate folder, as the javascript on those sites is frequently poorly coded and causes Safari lockups.

Anyone have experience with (a) resolving Safari's inability to release memory or (b) another browser that can do this? I've tried 'em all briefly, but keep coming back to Safari, which after all these years is the most 'comfortable'.
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Thanks! That's quite helpful. However, while it restores all of the tabs, it reopens them at default size. I'm still wondering if there is way to have it reopen the tabs at the zoomed in size.

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If you find a solution to the memory release issue, let me know. I have the habit of actually using tabs (why else would you have 'em as a feature?). My bookmarks bar has folders that auto-open between 20 and 30 tabs at a go -> the sites I check daily. But Safari just does not like to release memory and becomes completely unusable in short order.

I'm trying to remember to deal with one group at a time, quit and relaunch Safari before going on to the next group, but it's a pain in the ***. I've also separated out a number of sites (BoingBoing, LifeHacker, Mac.iLounge, iFans) into a separate folder, as the javascript on those sites is frequently poorly coded and causes Safari lockups.

Anyone have experience with (a) resolving Safari's inability to release memory or (b) another browser that can do this? I've tried 'em all briefly, but keep coming back to Safari, which after all these years is the most 'comfortable'.
Well, there's Chrome. I don't know if it releases memory or it just doesn't need as much, but it seems better in that regard. It never seems to use nearly as much as Firefox or Safari.

I tried it for a while, but liked it less than Firefox and well, it's Google.
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Never did see any real need for tabs. I use my bookmark bar to open, read, then close that window and carry on. Having more than three windows or tabs open at a time is, well, just plain silly. Maybe it's just me?
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Never did see any real need for tabs. I use my bookmark bar to open, read, then close that window and carry on. Having more than three windows or tabs open at a time is, well, just plain silly. Maybe it's just me?
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Never did see any real need for tabs. I use my bookmark bar to open, read, then close that window and carry on. Having more than three windows or tabs open at a time is, well, just plain silly. Maybe it's just me?
We all have our ways of doing things, Don

Here's how I frequently use tabs: I'll open a news site, and go through the front page and sections I'm interested in, Command-clicking on the stories I want to read. By the time I'm at the end of the page, I've got a dozen stories loaded and waiting for me to read (or more often, save as PDFs for later reading). I guess this is kind of like what some people do with Instapaper, but different.

But the basic issue here is that Safari is incapable of releasing the memory it holds for tabbed windows (apparently). And man, does Safari ever hate Javascript! Some sites (aforementioned) give me the Spinning Beach Ball of Death - I can pop over to Activity Monitor and watch the amount of real memory for Safari being gobbled up... by the time it gets over 1 gigabyte Safari is rendered inert.... somewhere around 1.6 gigabytes I give up hope of recovery, and just force-quit...
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Hey CM, to each his own. I did use the observation in reference to myself. I could never operate the way you do, nor could you stand my method. One thing for sure, I know what I read, save what I need and never get peed at the software when overloading it.
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Well, there's Chrome. I don't know if it releases memory or it just doesn't need as much, but it seems better in that regard. It never seems to use nearly as much as Firefox or Safari.

I tried it for a while, but liked it less than Firefox and well, it's Google.
Well, I tried Chromium and it does not work like Safari does. Case in point: I visit around 20 websites everyday (EhMac being one of those). In Safari, I have all these bookmarked in a folder called "Daily"; and I just navigate to that folder and click on "Open in Tabs", which then opens all 20 websites in tabs.

In Chromium, I do the same thing; and I only get 8 tabs open. The other 12 websites are not loaded at all.

So, back to Safari for me.

I have not tried this in Chrome; but Chromium is supposed to be Chrome without Google's negatives.

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