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Old May 2nd, 2011, 01:36 PM   #1
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Post Quite the 180º turn from arguments of old that "Macs are too proprietary"

Very interesting, PC Magazine has an article entitled, "What Will It Take to Really Challenge Apple?"

They open the article with the line, "Apple is successful because it has complete control over its hardware, software, and services. To be competitive, other vendors need to do this, too."

But... but... isn't this a weakness of Mac products, that they are too proprietary?

Article goes on to say, "Apple's real magic is in the software and services it ties to its devices. But its advantage actually goes even deeper. Apple controls the hardware, software, services and ecosystem that it ultimately delivers to its customers."

I've been saying this for year when I was in Mac sales. It's a standard phrase I used so often, I have it etched in my brain permanently. "Apple is the only company in the whole computer business who makes the whole widget. From the carefully crafted hardware, to the easy to use, stable software that runs the computer, to some of the awesome creative applications that come pre-installed, Apple makes and controls the whole out-of-box customer experience to make a truly awesome product from head to toe."

The old model of cheap "IBM Compatible" PC's is long over, but some people are debating that the same thing is now happening with Google making the software for phones, and licensing it out to other hardware vendors.

Time will tell, but I think this time, simply the better product will win.
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Yup. I got into macs for this same reason. There were times where using macs made me annoyed because there wasn't as much software available as window, but the mac user experience out weighed that argument.

The mac experience has been getting better and better, even with Apples tremendous growth. The quality of their computers, OS, and 3rd party software kills anything else on the market as far as I am concerned.

Until something drastic changes, I will always be a Mac guy...
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I had pretty much this exact conversation the other day at dinner when a friend of a friend was asking why updating windows always broke on their hardware. Apple has a really good handle on QA because of this exact reason ... they control everything. Windows, on the other hand, is made to work with a bazillion pieces of hardware with drives written by 3rd parties, etc. These days it's still even quite rare to require 3rd party drivers for hardware, OSX provides the majority of this stuff for you. Windows tries (to some degree) but that's the point of most of those failures. Who knows how the 3rd party guys wrote the drivers .. and as far as "windows certified" drivers ... that never really caught on, even with Microsoft's own hardware!
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So here's an earnest question: Given the explanations we hear for the growing popularity of Macs (vs. Windows boxes), how do you explain the success of Android (vs. iPhones)?
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Very interesting, PC Magazine has an article entitled, "What Will It Take to Really Challenge Apple?"

They open the article with the line, "Apple is successful because it has complete control over its hardware, software, and services. To be competitive, other vendors need to do this, too."

But... but... isn't this a weakness of Mac products, that they are too proprietary?

Article goes on to say, "Apple's real magic is in the software and services it ties to its devices. But its advantage actually goes even deeper. Apple controls the hardware, software, services and ecosystem that it ultimately delivers to its customers."

I've been saying this for year when I was in Mac sales. It's a standard phrase I used so often, I have it etched in my brain permanently. "Apple is the only company in the whole computer business who makes the whole widget. From the carefully crafted hardware, to the easy to use, stable software that runs the computer, to some of the awesome creative applications that come pre-installed, Apple makes and controls the whole out-of-box customer experience to make a truly awesome product from head to toe."

The old model of cheap "IBM Compatible" PC's is long over, but some people are debating that the same thing is now happening with Google making the software for phones, and licensing it out to other hardware vendors.

Time will tell, but I think this time, simply the better product will win.
I may like apple's model of hardware/software etc., but I hardly think the old model is long over.

Microsoft is -still- selling huge numbers of it's OSs, and will likely for some time, and certainly, google's android is kicking serious butt despite apple's dominance. Android is poised to outgrow iOS if it hasn't already. It isn't going to be about better.



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So here's an earnest question: Given the explanations we hear for the growing popularity of Macs (vs. Windows boxes), how do you explain the success of Android (vs. iPhones)?
Because it's not Microsoft.
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So here's an earnest question: Given the explanations we hear for the growing popularity of Macs (vs. Windows boxes), how do you explain the success of Android (vs. iPhones)?
Because people are basically cheap, and it's much easier to pirate your apps on Android.
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So here's an earnest question: Given the explanations we hear for the growing popularity of Macs (vs. Windows boxes), how do you explain the success of Android (vs. iPhones)?
iOS is available on one phone and one tablet. Android is available on any number of both. That alone will make the difference in sheer numbers. Android is also open, which makes a big difference for some people as well, they want open as opposed to the walled garden approach.
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What are the latest market share number's for Android OS based devices versus iOS devices?
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