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Old Mar 25th, 2009, 02:03 AM   #1
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Question About 17" MBP...

Hey all...

I'm contemplating purchasing the 17" Macbook Pro. I have a 15" first gen (the core duo, 1.83) MBP, but unfortunately United smashed it on a flight I had last week, and it now has a pretty little crack across the entire screen.

Anyway, Here is my deal..
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I'm looking for a solid computer that can do a wide range of things. Here are my main uses:

- CS4
- Word/Excel/Powerpoint
- Photos
- Browsing
- Media (mostly watching movies)

I do quite a bit of mobile computing, traveling with it weekly if not daily.

I am NOT looking for something to replace my desktop - I have a HTPC, a desktop, a netbook, old MBP, and a windows laptop. I love apples and use my old mbp like crazy, which is why I'm looking for the upgrade before this screen becomes unuseable.

I REALLY like the idea of an 8 hour battery - but I am VERY skeptical. My current battery gets exactly 22 minutes of charge (although 550+ charges in 2 years since replacement), so the idea of a $200 battery replacement kind of sucks.

My first question is... what is your ACTUAL battery time on your 17" MBP? With wifi, normal screen, normal programs etc? I read that apple based their 8 hours on text editing/browsing, but other reports were for 4 hours...

The 8 hour battery is a major seller for me... pushing me to the 17" over the 15". I don't really mind the extra size, but I don't really need it either.

My next question would be if the $47.00 is worth it for the matte screen? I am using a matte screen now, and prefer it over the older MBs I've seen, but haven't had a new MBP in a regular environment. Do you regret your matte upgrade?

I suppose my only other question is should I be waiting for snow lepoard? Waiting for any kinks to be removed, a new version, etc? What is the ETA?

Thanks! Anything else I should know would be greatly appreciate!
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Old Mar 26th, 2009, 12:51 PM   #2
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anyone? :-)
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i'm not sure how many people here have the new 17" MBP....it's fairly new.


I'm skeptical of the 8 hour battery claim as well.
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Old Mar 26th, 2009, 01:38 PM   #4
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The battery on the MBP 17-inch will last between 7-8 hours on minimal settings; heavy duty work, movie watching, and you can forget about that time frame. Minimal settings include a dimmed display, hardware you don't need turned off (i.e; Bluetooth), and no disc in the optical drive that's constantly being read from or written to. The battery will need to be replaced at least once in its life (if you keep it several years), and the battery is not swappable by the end user unlike any other battery in any other Mac portable, save the MacBook Air, which also does not sport a user-exchangeable battery.
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Here's hoping that your insurance, or United's, covers the replacement.
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Snow Leopard is due out Shipping ~late Q2, early Q3 2009. It's a race between Snow Leopard and Windows 7. But really....its out when its out...

If you go new, before SL release, apple usually offers a deal to folks who have purchased a week or so before the release to upgrade to the new OS for less than a regular upgrade.

It's a pretty good market for second hand Mac though, but if you have the (insurance) money, way less risky to buy new.

I have a MB and MBP, love them both. If you do work with video or lots of digital media, go with MBP, if not, consider MB...as for battery life, the better battery in the MBP is not removable -- what do you do 3 years from now when your battery is dead? Removable batteries may be smaller, but you can replace them. I know quite a few people who bought a second battery swap in when travelling. Things to ponder....
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i'm not sure how many people here have the new 17" MBP....it's fairly new.
I'm skeptical of the 8 hour battery claim as well.
Ahhh, ic, It didn't click to me that it was so new. I hate being the guinea pig!

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The battery on the MBP 17-inch will last between 7-8 hours on minimal settings; heavy duty work, movie watching, and you can forget about that time frame. Minimal settings include a dimmed display, hardware you don't need turned off (i.e; Bluetooth), and no disc in the optical drive that's constantly being read from or written to. The battery will need to be replaced at least once in its life (if you keep it several years), and the battery is not swappable by the end user unlike any other battery in any other Mac portable, save the MacBook Air, which also does not sport a user-exchangeable battery.
I hear you - it says 1000 charges, which would mean everyday for three years a full 8 hour discharge...or at least that is what they are claiming right... That being said, with 8 hours of battery you probably wouldn't need an extra one. I do plan on traveling on a world trip, and was planning on taking a MBP, so the 8 hours would be a godsend in Africa or egypt!

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Here's hoping that your insurance, or United's, covers the replacement.
I am not expecting anything from united, and my insurance has a deductible that would kill the deal. I sent an email to united but haven't heard back from them yet.

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Snow Leopard is due out Shipping ~late Q2, early Q3 2009. It's a race between Snow Leopard and Windows 7. But really....its out when its out...

If you go new, before SL release, apple usually offers a deal to folks who have purchased 6 months or so before the release to upgrade to the new OS for $10 or so.

It's a pretty good market for second hand Mac though, but if you have the (insurance) money, way less risky to buy new.

I have a MB and MBP, love them both. If you do work with video or lots of digital media, go with MBP, if not, consider MB...as for battery life, the better battery in the MBP is not removable -- what do you do 3 years from now when your battery is dead? Removable batteries may be smaller, but you can replace them. I know quite a few people who bought a second battery swap in when traveling. Things to ponder....
I very much appreciate the info! It might be better to just wait for snow leopard then - From what I am reading now after your post, they are only did it for 30 days before! That isn't worth the risk I suppose. I realize that I could get a used one, but I figured if you're gunna drop 2500 on a used one, may as well do 3000 on a new one.

I do Website Design/Photo Manipulation, so its important to have some power. I also really want the battery life, so if the 17" are the only ones that have it, it pushes me to the Pros.

I guess no one has one of the 17's yet and can give a report on their battery life?

Also, this may be a stupid question, but do you guys think the matte screen would have any effect on battery life?
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My impression is that Apple is working on reducing the power drawn by its dispays - matte screen or not. I don't think it would make a difference.

Also, if your awaiting 6months+ for Snow Leopard, that gives you time to find out about the battery life of the 17". Check forums in the US - more people, more guinea pigs.
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If you go new, before SL release, apple usually offers a deal to folks who have purchased 6 months or so before the release to upgrade to the new OS for $10 or so.

This is not true. With the release of 10.5, Apple offered the $10 upgrades to those who had purchased their computers from Oct 1th, 2007 onwards. Leopard was released on October 26th, 2007.
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This is not true. With the release of 10.5, Apple offered the $10 upgrades to those who had purchased their computers from Oct 1th, 2007 onwards. Leopard was released on October 26th, 2007.

sorry...my recollection was that it was a few months...not a few weeks...next time i'll do my research!
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