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Old Mar 14th, 2009, 06:34 PM   #1
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G4 MDD and Midi input

Hi all, I have a G4 MDD dual 1ghz and I would like to set it up beside our digital piano to record the music that is created. I have a midi to serial connector from my pc days but the G4 has no serial port, I also have a midi to usb cable from a laptop setup I had. I would like the serial port to be the way but I am not sure of the cards in the G4 nor if I can get a serial card for it. Any thoughts on this?
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Hi all, I have a G4 MDD dual 1ghz and I would like to set it up beside our digital piano to record the music that is created. I have a midi to serial connector from my pc days but the G4 has no serial port, I also have a midi to usb cable from a laptop setup I had. I would like the serial port to be the way but I am not sure of the cards in the G4 nor if I can get a serial card for it. Any thoughts on this?
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there are PCI midi cards for mac :

M-AUDIO - Audiophile 2496 - 4-In/4-Out Audio Card with MIDI and Digital I/O

I have that PCI card that might work, but i no longer have the breakout cable. Not sure if you could use your serial to midi adapter with it. If you'd like to make an offer on it PM me.
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Hi all, I have a G4 MDD dual 1ghz and I would like to set it up beside our digital piano to record the music that is created. I have a midi to serial connector from my pc days but the G4 has no serial port, I also have a midi to usb cable from a laptop setup I had. I would like the serial port to be the way but I am not sure of the cards in the G4 nor if I can get a serial card for it. Any thoughts on this?
Does your electric piano only have a serial port, No midi port?

Using a midi port from the piano would be a lot easier to find a solution,
Are you using OSX or OS 9x?

If it's a serial port on the electric piano, Then you are going to need
a GeeThree Stealth serial port That's if the port on the piano can use a Mac serial cable.

I don't know if they can still be found for the G4 though,
You may have to do a search.

That's the elegant way of doing it for a Mac serial solution,
However... Is it a PC serial or Mac serial that you need?
(It'd be better if I knew which kind of serial it was, Mac or PC)

You may also get a Keyspan adapter cable that will convert serial to USB,
You'll have to do a search for one, I found this one for PC
I think I have one for the Mac somewhere in a junk box for OS 9x



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there are PCI midi cards for mac :

M-AUDIO - Audiophile 2496 - 4-In/4-Out Audio Card with MIDI and Digital I/O

I have that PCI card that might work, but i no longer have the breakout cable. Not sure if you could use your serial to midi adapter with it. If you'd like to make an offer on it PM me.
I have a card similar to that but it only has the onboard composite in/out jacks.
I like this card you have but may just price out a new one thanks.
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Does your electric piano only have a serial port, No midi port?

Using a midi port from the piano would be a lot easier to find a solution,
Are you using OSX or OS 9x?

If it's a serial port on the electric piano, Then you are going to need
a GeeThree Stealth serial port That's if the port on the piano can use a Mac serial cable.

I don't know if they can still be found for the G4 though,
You may have to do a search.

That's the elegant way of doing it for a Mac serial solution,
However... Is it a PC serial or Mac serial that you need?
(It'd be better if I knew which kind of serial it was, Mac or PC)

You may also get a Keyspan adapter cable that will convert serial to USB,
You'll have to do a search for one, I found this one for PC
I think I have one for the Mac somewhere in a junk box for OS 9x


I guess I didn't explain clearly, I have a midi to serial adapter/connector and plugging this cable into the midi ports of the piano I have no serial port on the G4 to plug into.
I also have a midi to usb adapter/connector to plug this into the piano midi and into the G4 may work but I am told that the midi to serial is best.

Now, to clear things up I have found that it is not a serial connector but it is a joystick size connector, something you find on a sound card. I now recall plugging this midi cable into the joystick port on my pc ( years ago ).

So, do I now look for a sound card for the G4 or go with the usb? I remember having troubles with the midi/usb cable and the pc recognizing the piano which is why I went to the other cable. Will a standard Creative or M-Audio PCI sound card just plug into a Mac or do I need a special Mac PCI card.
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I guess I didn't explain clearly, I have a midi to serial adapter/connector and plugging this cable into the midi ports of the piano I have no serial port on the G4 to plug into.
I also have a midi to usb adapter/connector to plug this into the piano midi and into the G4 may work but I am told that the midi to serial is best.

Now, to clear things up I have found that it is not a serial connector but it is a joystick size connector, something you find on a sound card. I now recall plugging this midi cable into the joystick port on my pc ( years ago ).

So, do I now look for a sound card for the G4 or go with the usb? I remember having troubles with the midi/usb cable and the pc recognizing the piano which is why I went to the other cable. Will a standard Creative or M-Audio PCI sound card just plug into a Mac or do I need a special Mac PCI card.
With the USB - Midi adapter you'll have no problem using OSX with it on your G4,
Should be plug and play using the Audio MIDI Setup app in your utilities folder.
(The link will explain basic setup with midi and OSX, The version of OSX is irrelevant)

Not worth fiddling with the old serial/joystick style port,
Unless you have a PC with that port, Then go for it.


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best buy for a g4 might be an M-audio audiphile 2496 card, which is low cost + offers 2 in 2out audio + 1 in 1out Midi interface



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yah, those old 2496 cards are super-cheap on craigslist/kijiji etc. i'd buy used.

also, the old echo mia or gina (breakout box) might work for you as well. Everyone dumped them when pci-e came around, so pci options are cheap and plentiful.

i had an echo layla back in the day, and it worked great.
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yeah but finding an echo mia card would be hard compared to m-audio!!!
they are pretty much equivelant in i/o + sound i think..

and echo mia has no midi unless its the "echo mia midi"
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