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Old Oct 9th, 2004, 09:56 PM   #1
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This has been front an centre on MacFixit - anyone have problems here?? ( I think it might have been discussed before but figured it was worth a retread.

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Security Update 2004-09-30 (#4): Safari connectivity; Mail; printing; general instability

We continue to cover reports of problems with Security Update 2004-09-30. Interestingly, the vast majority of these reports continue to be Safari-related, even though the Update did not update or replace any files related to Safari. (As we noted on Monday, the Update affects AFP Server, CUPS, NetInfo Manager, postfix, QuickTime, and ServerAdmin.)

Safari connectivity; solutions Readers continue to report issues with Safari being unable to connect to sites since installing the Update. Specifically, Safari will "time out" when trying to connect to a site. Often simply trying to connect to the site again will result in success. Whether or not these issues are directly related to Security Update 2004-09-30 or just coincidental, they seem to be affecting a good number of users. Yesterday we provided a list of techniques that some user have found useful in "fixing" Safari time out/reconnect issues; a number of readers responded with additional suggestions:


In a similar vein as renewing DHCP leases (noted yesterday), several readers have found success in switching to a different Network Location and then back, or -- on step further -- deleting the current Network Location and then recreating it.
J. Ronchetto found that the Web Proxy option was enabled in the Proxies tab of his active Network Port Configuration in Network preferences. Disabling it fixed the problem.
Jamie Peloquin found that after installing the update, the "DHCP with Manual IP" option in the TCP/IP tab of Network preferences didn't work. Switching to Manual and then entering the router's IP address (and the appropriate IP address for the computer itself) fixed the problem.
John Strayhorn, who access the Internet via AirPort, fixed the problem by turning AirPort off and then on again.
Sean Popke found a solution, via the Apple Discussions forums, involving the lookupd cache:

"I cleared the cache and so far I haven't had the problem since. Here's the text from the discussion that states how to clear the cache:

To cut a long explanation short, the problem maybe with DNS resolution. I would like to go into details of testing, and isolating the problem but that will take too long. If you are comfortable with Terminal then...flush the lookupd cache The lookupd daemon maintains a cache on your hard drive of recently accessed information of all sorts (not just for domain names). If the cache becomes corrupt, this can cause DNS-related symptoms. The solution here is to flush the cache. To do so, launch Terminal and type the following: lookupd -flushcache

"Note: The lookupd -statistics command provides a summary of lookupd information. Use this command before and after a flushcache command to confirm that the cache has actually been emptied. If the cache did empty, the number in the Total Memory line of the output (for example, # Total Memory: 57884) should be substantially lower."

Ken Hoyle simply urges people to try an alternate browser, such as Firefox: "I abandoned Safari a long time ago and have never had a problem with Firefox It is lean, fast and very compatible with all sites including financial institutions and NetBank."
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Old Oct 9th, 2004, 10:13 PM   #2
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Safari has been acting up a bit - switching sites unexpectedly in tabbed browsing. Annoying, but I can put up with it until the next update.

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After installing the update, my M-Audio Delta 1010 PCI interface doesn't work properly. I contacted M-Audio and they suggested re-installing their software after deleting it via the terminal.

Before re-installation launching Logic would freeze the machine, also had kernel panics during start-up. After installing their SW again, no more panics or freezes, but the 1010 just spits out 8 channels of noise when you launch Logic or the Sound control panel.

I usually wait a week or so before doing any updates.

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I avoided this one and checked tonight and am still going to avoid it.
My trick for reducing headaches is to do a CCC just before the update.
That way if anything is spooky I can dump the updated version.

BTW we would highly recommend Onyx prior to updates as well.
At the very least repair permissions......and as you say - wait a week.......or more.

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Hey Macdoc, I updated about 20 machines on my network last week and all are fine except for one. I installed the package using ARD and set all machines to reboot. On reboot that one machine can no longer be accessed via ARD. Settings are correct, prefs have been trashed, but still no go.
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I updated My PB 17" and my Cube ( both OS10.3). Now it can take 3 tries to log on to ebay and other sites and then it is slooowww. My DP 867 is running no updates and OS 10.2 no problems. I was going to sell the 867 but it's such a work house I am going to leave it on the network as a backup for times like this.
Now the BIG Question???? how do I fix my PB 17 and Cube. Wait for the next Update ?????? and hope Apple fixes the problems!!!!!!!!!

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Well put the problem to good use and try a few other browsers to see
a) if you like them
b) if they suffer the same problems

I favour Shiira for a number of reasons and there are a number of others that are popular.



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I avoided updating but finally caved in Friday evening - no problems whatsoever to report, thank goodness...
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Went the problem first started. I tried Internet Exploper and Firefox both developed the same problem after time, slow connection, and time outs. Then I thought it might be the router (D-Link 624) I updated the firmware on the router same problem, I check both Macs for virses (no virses and same problem) I connected directly to my cable modem (Cogeco) same problem. I tested the upload and download speeds throughput of my cable modem with a test site (no problem Very fast.) I thought it was a plot of Cogeco to sell their new super fast internet service.
I reconnected my (unupdated) DP 867 to the network (it was for sale) to burn some DVDs No problem connecting to the internet at all. After reading MacDoc post (Thanks MacDoc) the problem is clean, the Apple Update. Now I need a fix.
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Run a full Onyx 1.4.7 on automate setting to clear all the caches.

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