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Old Feb 3rd, 2008, 02:36 PM   #1
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wireless cards for powerbook g3 pismo

want to use it wirelessly, but is there any alternative to using an airport card on a powerbook g3 pismo?
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Old Feb 3rd, 2008, 02:56 PM   #2
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quickly the answer is YES, there are some generic cards for wireless that will work in G3 powerbooks with os 9.1 or 9.2.
There is a website that gives lots of info on it and suggests some places that have what you want.
I dont have it looked up yet, but I ll check.
There are alternative PCI cards that work for wireless in Mac towers too in osx or 9
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Old Feb 3rd, 2008, 03:14 PM   #3
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i went this route on my mac mini g4 - and as a side benefit, it works well in the USB pcmcia slot on my Wallstreet (which is running 10.3.9)

http://www.ehmac.ca/anything-mac/605...ifi-cards.html
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i went this route on my mac mini g4 - and as a side benefit, it works well in the USB pcmcia slot on my Wallstreet (which is running 10.3.9)

http://www.ehmac.ca/anything-mac/605...ifi-cards.html
running 10.4.11 on the pismo, so all I would need is to get one of these USB wifi cards?
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^ in addition, will it matter what router I have?
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Old Feb 3rd, 2008, 05:17 PM   #6
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I'm looking at the following,

Canada Computers - Networking > Wireless Adapters : Belkin F5D7050 Wireless G USB Network Adapter standard 1.0, 1.1 and 2.0 USB slot.

Canada Computers - Networking > Wireless Adapters : Netgear WG111T-100NAR 108Mbps 802.11G Wireless, Super G USB 2.0 Adapter (Factory Refurbished).

Canada Computers - Networking > Wireless Adapters : Netgear WPN111NAR 108Mbps 802.11G Wireless, Rangemax MiMo USB 2.0 Adapter (Factory Refurbished).

Netgear shows that it uses USB 2, but the pimo has USB 1, which means I would have to get the plug in to make it compatible (sorry don't what it's called) and can anyone tell me the difference between the two?

will any of the above present any problem?
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i ended up buying the wua-1340. it has drivers for panther and tiger, none for leopard.

its my understanding that any usb2.0 device will clock 'down' to 1.1 w/o any issues.
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Netgear shows that it uses USB 2, but the pimo has USB 1, which means I would have to get the plug in to make it compatible (sorry don't what it's called) and can anyone tell me the difference between the two? will any of the above present any problem?
USB 2.0 devices are entirely compatible with USB, except for speed. Hence, a "G" speed wifi device will only be capable of "B" speed connections because USB is 12Mb/s. The main caveat is driver support. Any devices that use the Broadcom chipset are natively supported as Airport. Drivers exist for sich chipsets as the Intel Prism, ZyDas and RaLink chipsets. RaLink devices are pretty common these days, and are used in both DLink WUA-1340's and Belkin adapters.

However, this is not so much of a problem since many hotspots will only allow individual "B" speed connections, in order to service many users. With "B" speeds, you should be able to gain a connection rate of 400-600 kB/s, though in real life circumstances, I would say 250-300 kB/s is more likely. (One hotspot I use will only yield 120kB/s when they are busy.)

The Netgear adapters are quite often RIP devices, that is, they do not have a datapump or firmware on the device. Hence, they are normally "Windoze Only" because the driver also has to perform all of the functions of the adapter, unlike a real adapter that does these processes themselves. Many of the WG111 devices are like this, and will not even be recognized when connected to the USB port, as the driver is entirely proprietary. Some versions do have a real chipset, though your milage may vary.

Having been through this process, I would strongly advise purchasing an adapter at a place which has a generous return policy. The manufacturers do not change versions or models when they change the chipsets - it is done ad hoc. I assume that the "Windoze Wizard" program figures out which driver to install for a given device - this is not supported on any other platform, including Linux and OSX. If you plug the device in and it does not show up in the system profiler, then it is probably a RIP adapter, and would need to be returned. Otherwise, the chipset will be identified, and you can find the appropriate drivers.

The Pismo also has CardBus, and if you can find a Sonnet Aria adapter, that is probably a better solution as it gets over the limitations of the USB bus. And if you do not need portable operation, you can always use an Ethernet Wireless adapter (which needs to be plugged in to the wall), which will give you full speed regardless of any port limitations.
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Found Sonnet Aria Adapter on ebay for $50.

as for the wireless ethernet adapter, I found this
Canada Computers - Networking > Wireless Adapters : Linksys WUSB54G Wireless-G USB Network Adapter.

sorry, don't really know how this one works, what do you mean by this connecting to the wall? BTW saw this on ebay for around $20
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My Pismo has a CardBus card (Linksys WPC54G-CA). It has worked brilliantly for years. This Linksys card has the Broadcom chip which the original AirPort card had and is instantly recognized by the Pismo with no need for a driver. Some (later) Linksys cards with the same model number allegedly do not have the Broadcom chip and so supposedly won't work without a driver.

The key is the Broadcom chip. CardBus cards with that chip work just like the AirPort card--except they live in the PC card slot. The Sonnet Aria has the Broadcom chip as do some other CardBus cards. There is (was) a page devoted to this topic on the web somewhere. If you can find it, you'll see a long list of possible replacements for the AirPort card for your Pismo. I'll check my 'Pismo' folder later and get back to you if I can find further info.
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