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Old Jun 17th, 2004, 11:52 AM   #1
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hey all,

i know this question get bandied about in just about every g5 thread, but how much of a difference is there in the 1.6 g5 and either of the rev 1.8 duals?

i have a feeling that the 1.6 is a suitable machine for me, yet more and more a lot of folks claim that they wouldn't buy a single processor g5 these days, and that the mac world is basically a dual world.

my primary uses:
graphic design, often with huge files sometimes getting up to the 1 gig level.

music: i'd like to be able to run Garage Band well, as well as possibly a heavier app like Pro Tools.


so would a 1.6 do it all for me at a good speed pace?

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Old Jun 17th, 2004, 11:56 AM   #2
 
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I dont like to encourage people to do the waiting game but I think in your case, it could be the solution. G5 iMac should be announced very soon and they probably be your best bet, unless you can get a 1.6 at a very good discounted price.

Dual procs only make a difference if the application use them. So in PS, I would guess it would only be usefull for filter render and thats about it.
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Old Jun 17th, 2004, 01:15 PM   #3
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If your primary use is graphics with large files, then you should probably go for the dual machine. As a professional user, time is money, so the difference in price is actually quite small when deffered over the life of the machine. BTW, I just got my 1.6 gig single, but my photoshop files are never anywhere near the size of yours.
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Old Jun 17th, 2004, 01:23 PM   #4
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thanks guys.

andreww:
some files can get that big, but certainly not everyday. how are things (ie photoshop) running on your 1.6?

anyone run garage band with multiple tracks (to me, that means 8!) on a 1.6?
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Old Jun 17th, 2004, 06:31 PM   #5
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I'm curious, what are you doing to get PS files up to 1 gig?

I've done 36x60" banners, even an 8' long banner, never got anywhere near that size.
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Old Jun 17th, 2004, 09:21 PM   #6
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Personally, I'd NEVER buy a single G5, but that's just me. MacOS X is written for duals, even if a single app isn't written for duals MacOS X is and if you're using two apps at the same time, they're likely running on different CPUs.

The only reason I'd recommend a single, is budget concerns.
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Well, i just bought a G5-1.6, and having come from a AlPB G4-867 with heavy GarageBand and Absynth 2.0 use, the G5 1.6 is a massive speed increase. I couldn't do more than about 8 tracks on GarageBand on the G4-867, but I can easily to 12 now, and with tons of effects. However, it's my personal opinion that Garageband 1.1 needs serious performance tweaks, and much like the other iApp 1.0's, we'll see a v2.0 with a huge increase in performance.

I also picked-up Soundtrack 1.2 today, and it's NOT the hog like GarageBand is, which leads me to believe GB needs serious tweaking. It really all boils down to limiting bottlenecks - pile-in the RAM, upgrade the HDs or get FW800 drives, and keep the updates coming.

I'm immensely pleased with my 1.6.

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I would tend to agree that you should get as much machine as you can especially if you're doing heavy duty photoshop work. Time is money.

The biggest bottleneck in photoshop though is lack of ram and slow disk access. If you're on a budget and can't afford a ton of ram and a disk array and a dual processor go for the single and spend the extra cash on ram and a dual disk array, it will probably serve you better than a dual with no upgrades.

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Dual procs only make a difference if the application use them. So in PS, I would guess it would only be usefull for filter render and thats about it.
I thought this was true under OS 9, but my understanding is that OS X is now fully multithreaded. If that's the case, anything running under OS X (Classic probably runs in a single thread) will benefit from an extra processor.

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I thought this was true under OS 9, but my understanding is that OS X is now fully multithreaded. If that's the case, anything running under OS X (Classic probably runs in a single thread) will benefit from an extra processor.

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The app itself, if it doesn't have multiple threads will only run on one CPU, but OS X's processes will run on multiple CPUs. So even with one app running there is a partial advantage to dual CPUs. And you can't run anything on a Mac without an OS, so both CPUs will be used even if you are running an app that only uses one CPU. Also a lot of Apple's own applications (iApps) are written to take advantage of dual CPUs.
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