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Old Dec 27th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #1
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I need to upgrade my powerbook g3

Hello,

I just received this mac powerbook g3 from my uncle. It is a very old laptop. I want to upgrade this laptop( buying a larger hardrive, ram, etc). I am not that familiar with my mac very much. If there is any other information you need regarding my powerbook, just post it,

The RAM in this laptop is only 192 (SDR)
It's hardrive capacity is around 6 GB
and it is 400MHZ

I wish to change all the things above. Hopefully get an internal hardrive of maybe 40-60 GB, and maybe the ram to about 256 or 512 mb. And i want to know if i can upgrade the processor. I am currently located in Montreal. I am new to the Mac Community. i would like to know where i can upgrade my laptop. I wish to go to an apple store nereby and ask them to upgrade it for me. I just want to know the price it will cost me to upgrade this powerbook, whether it would be less than 400$. How much each of these parts would cost me? and is it worth for me to upgrade this powerbook?

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Old Dec 27th, 2007, 10:39 PM   #2
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First, you need to figure out if you have this model:

apple-history.com

or this one, with FireWire:

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The latter is far preferable! It is the much-desired "Pismo" model.

In any case, you can make all these upgrades yourself, if you're careful. RAM and hard drives are readily available. If you have a screwdriver, and can practise grounding techniques, you'll be fine. The processor upgrade though, while not more difficult, is far more expensive, and limited. If you want a faster laptop, buy one more reasonably than upgrading this one.

Here are all the instructions, with pictures, for performing these upgrades:

PowerBook G3 Lombard Disassembly: PowerBook Parts

PowerBook G3 Pismo Disassembly: PowerBook Parts

You should place a "wanted" ad in the classifieds here on ehMac for the parts you need:
http://www.ehmac.ca/vbclassified.php

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Old Dec 27th, 2007, 11:02 PM   #3
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Old Dec 27th, 2007, 11:08 PM   #4
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Hello,

I just received this mac powerbook g3 from my uncle.
He must not like you very much.

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It is a very old laptop.
Yes it is.

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I want to upgrade this laptop( buying a larger hardrive, ram, etc).
No, you don't really. Allow me to explain.

As one of the other (helpful) posters mentioned, upgrades are possible and you may be able to do them yourself. What I don't think he mentioned was that if your time is valuable, by the time you've expended the money and effort to bring this computer up to the point where it's barely adequate to surf the net, you will have out-"spent" what it costs to buy a solid, modern, used or refurbished Mac that is a lot closer to the current (really wonderful) "Mac experience."

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I am new to the Mac Community. i would like to know where i can upgrade my laptop. I wish to go to an apple store nereby and ask them to upgrade it for me.
If you brought this into an Apple (corporate) store and asked them to upgrade it, they would just laugh at you. This computer is around 10 years old!!

I don't mean to sound negative, and I'm sure your uncle meant well (and it's certainly a nice-looking model you've got). But seriously, save yourself time and ultimately money and find yourself a good used (1GHz or better) iBook G4 or first-gen MacBook. If you're just starting out in the Mac community, don't begin by being a second-class citizen. Don't hobble yourself with obsolete technology and myriad workarounds and other headaches. Get in on AT LEAST the ground floor of where most Mac users are, meaning OS X 10.3.9 or higher, and in terms of portables a G4 iBook or higher.

I love old computers, and if I had that one I'd load it up with OS 9 and a few great old OS 9 games and apps -- maybe an old copy of MS Word -- and I'd have a fine time with it. But that's because I can *afford* to appreciate old technology by virtue of having a modern, up-to-date computer for real work.

That Powerbook your uncle gave you is a fine gift as a hobby machine -- strictly for playing around -- but it SUCKS as a real computer by today's standards. If you need a real (Mac) computer, I encourage you to get one. They're not terribly expensive and are really high-quality, easy-to-use, fun machines that will really change your attitude about computers in general.
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Old Dec 27th, 2007, 11:18 PM   #5
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Fugedaboudit.

You want to spend $400.!!!!!!

For $650 or less.

You get a MacMini Core2 with 1 gig of RAM 80 gig drive Combo drive Airport, Bluetooth Leopard iLife8 that within some practical limits let you do any work on any platform at just about any level you care to name.
You'll be blown away..

You will have nothing but frustrations with the G3.....it was a great machine 10 years ago, even not bad 6 years ago.

Now it's a museum piece.

Save your money.
Better yet I'll bet you can get $150 out of the Powerbook on ebay for parts.



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You can upgrade the RAM and the internal hard drive.

You can get a module that will fit in the drive bay with a second hard drive.

You can also upgrade the processor to a G4.

You can get a Macsense wireless card for the card slot.

If you know what you are looking for and you are in no hurry,
Then it might be possible to slowly upgrade it with parts bought on eBay.

I've tried to upgrade my old Lombard in the past but got frustrated and gave up,
I have since sold my old Lombard and bought a MacMini (and an iBook 1.33).

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Old Dec 28th, 2007, 09:58 AM   #7
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I obtained a Pismo via ehMac a few years ago. Over the next few years, I replaced the daughterboard/CPU, replaced the PRAM battery, eventually replaced the lithium battery and found an additional one, since it takes two, added an original Airport Card, upgraded the RAM to 1GB... It had some use as a 'family' computer, and it is now an interim machine (bring on January 14, 2008) but it's perfectly fine as a surfing computer for a few months, between really fast contemporary Apple computers. And there isn't a shortage of legacy computers here.

From the been there, done that dept.:
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Old Dec 28th, 2007, 10:54 AM   #8
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Don't let anyone tell you otherwise the G3 Powerbooks are great machines!
For the non power user they're great!

Upgrade the ram and put in a bigger HD and look for a Broadcom PC card for wireless! Then surf away!

If you want to do more then give Macdoc a call and get a mini or iMac!

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Old Dec 28th, 2007, 01:58 PM   #9
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Thank you for all you replies,

I am considering upgrading my powerbook by myself ( thank you for the instructions however)

I think i will change my HD and my RAM. but will keep the processor the same. My laptop is fast enough, according to me. I am not a poweruser, i just want a laptop that will be able to hold all my files, pics, and videos. i think the 400MGZ is good enough for now. Is there anything else i will need to know before i upgrade

ie which type of hard drive should i get? where is the best place to get it? How big should my HD be? How big should the ram be?Do i neccesarily have to buy a SDRAM or could it be DDR2? etc

any pointers would be greatly helpful and appreciated

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Old Dec 28th, 2007, 02:17 PM   #10
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*Sid*, it would be helpful to know which model you have. This will help: are there 2 FireWire ports at the back?



The FireWire ports in this picture are in the middle (1, 2) with the Y symbol just to the right of them.

By the way, the sound on the Pismo is one of its great features. I've found nearly every mac laptop released after to have tinny, incomplete sound.
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