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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 02:01 AM   #1
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All-in-one printer recommendation?

Hello fellow ehmacers,

A friend of mine is looking for an all-in-one solution for a printer for his small business. I don't have much experience with these units so I thought I'd put out the ask for recomendations from some fellow mac users here who have a stronger degree of familiarity.

His needs are relatively modest. I don't picture him having high yield demands. Here are some thoughts regarding his needs:
- Colour capability would be nice.
- Fax capability would be nice.
- The cost of ink/toner replacements are a consideration.
- Double-sided printing would be nice (at minimum you'd be able to "manually" accomplish good quality double-sided pages).
- Ease of use (it's a family business and his parents [non-computer users] need to be able to copy something or send a fax).
- All around reliabilty and decent printing performance a must.

I don't imagine he wants to spend a lot of money on this unit, so expect the solution for him would be an ink jet. But I will entertain recommendations for laser printers should you have a strong opinion re: their value/performance/quality/long-term toner savings etc...

Many thanks for chiming in with your opinions!!! It is much appreciated.
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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 02:12 AM   #2
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All I've got to say is DO NOT... get a Brother All-In-One.... nothing but hell with them! We paid a few hundred dollars for ours n it's just problem after problem, it freezes a lot, leaks ink on papers, does an irritating "cleaning" every so often that lasts a long time ( longer than I'd like to wait), n many other irritations!! I'm not the only one to have problems with them, I know 3 other people who hate them too bc of similar issues.

Oh... I've had an HP all-in-one... a cheaper model($130) and it's suited me well for about 1.5yrs... just now it's starting to die on me. I don't mind bc I got many of full-screen colour photos off it n sold them =)
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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 02:16 AM   #3
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Epson RX680 will suit his needs and within budget:

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scan, fax, color printer, double side printing, hook up to digital camera directly... i want to buy one too
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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 02:59 AM   #4
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I like either Epson or HP I have a lexmark portable photo print that is ok. The Hp os a all in one. The Epson is a single function but has conked out on me a month a go but it was 5 years old. My parents have a single function Hp and they bought it in 2000 and it is going strong. Knok on wood.
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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 06:28 AM   #6
 
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The cost of ink/toner replacements are a consideration.

I don't imagine he wants to spend a lot of money on this unit, so expect the solution for him would be an ink jet.
Do NOT get an inkjet all-in-one. You will not get the speed, dependability, cost-effectiveness that a small business needs. Spending $200 on a cheap inkjet unit is like throwing money away. A good quality printer, scanner, fax is an investment. Tell your friend he has to think long-term costs (inkjet is the worst offender for long-term costs), durability (inkjet printers have the worst long-term durability track-record), speed (inkjet printers are the slowest printers on the market).

The ONLY reason to ever consider an inkjet printer is:
1) Need photo quality printing (in which case have a small, cheap inkjet JUST for that, and a laser for everything else)
2) Low up-front costs, with no cares for long-term costs (doesn't sound like a smart business investment)

Take a look at models like these:
Manual-duplexing: MFC-9420CN | Multi-function centres | Brother Canada
Auto-Duplexing: MFC-9840CDW | Multi-function centres | Brother Canada

Xerox: (duplexing)
Phaser 6180MFP Colour Multifunction: Colour Laser Printer Specifications

HP:
HP Color LaserJet 2800 All-in-One series Products and Services

These are the low-end models I'm suggesting if up-front costs are a big issue.

Stay away from inkjet multi-functions!
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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 11:33 AM   #7
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For a small business, I would definitely only consider a laser printer as my main unit.
Even for my home, I just bought a low cost Brother Laser for $130.- that does black and white printing, scanning and copying and has a feed tray to do up to 30 or so copies automatically.

There are a lot of choices and I think we need to know a bit more about the requirements and the actual budget.
You say
- Colour capability would be nice.
- Fax capability would be nice.
- The cost of ink/toner replacements are a consideration.
- Double-sided printing would be nice (at minimum you'd be able to "manually" accomplish good quality double-sided pages).
- Ease of use (it's a family business and his parents [non-computer users] need to be able to copy something or send a fax).
- All around reliabilty and decent printing performance a must.

Perhaps a good solution would be to get two printers, a laser one for b/w printing, scanning and copying (assuming these are the tasks performed more often) and a inkjet for colour and faxing.
That way you also have a back up if there is a problem with one of the printers - depends what happens to the business if a printer fails - can the business run without it or does everything come to a grinding halt.

@ Gabriel - Which brother all-in-one do you have? I bought the cheapest MFC-120C for less than $50 on sale about two years ago when I needed a scanner. Cheapest scanner then was $130, so this Brother was a lot cheaper. My Epson 880 gave up the ghost after many years of faithful service, so I use the Brother now as a printer as well and have had no problems.
The only issue is the paper feed. The paper needs to make a 180 degree turn inside the printer and I can therefore not use heavier cardboard-like paper like I could with the Epson.

@ the RX680 - I'm looking for an "all-in-one" that prints on CDs and DVDs, and the RX680 was one of the contenders. However, the reviews I have seen so far rate this printer pretty poorly when it comes to print quality and ink consumption.
HP and Canon don't seem much better - aqnyone have recommendations for an 'all-in-one' that prints on CDs? And is has to be less than $150.-.
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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 01:20 PM   #8
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Thanks for all who have taken the time to provide some feedback.

I think that I should elaborate a little further on a couple of things.

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Epson RX680 will suit his needs and within budget:

scan, fax, color printer, double side printing, hook up to digital camera directly... i want to buy one too
I checked out this link, and it does seem like a cool ink-jet... but I don't see the faxing capability. Am I missing it? or perhaps it doesn't indeed have the fax option?

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Do NOT get an inkjet all-in-one.
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There are a lot of choices and I think we need to know a bit more about the requirements and the actual budget
I hear you on the concerns re: cost of ink-jets long term.

Perhaps I need to elaborate a little further as suggested by KRS.

My friend runs a restaurant (not the type of "small-business" that generates a lot of print material). So his printing needs are limited to menu, wine list and invoices for catering type things and perhaps some general occasional correspondence. He has recently installed a mac for generating documents.

I don't think they will be generating a lot of paper, just occasional wine list or menu print runs and the one-off requirements of printing the occasional document.

The size of the printer is also an issue. Their office is a small cramped room in the basement and the printer would have to fit on their desk. I mention this because although the laser machines that guytoronto mentioned do look sweet, they also appear to be large enough in size that they would be ruled out as an option by the family. Are there lasers that are no more than about two feet tall? This also generally rules out krs's suggestion that he consider two printers. I understand the rationale, but it really is a cramped little low-ceilinged room. A desk, a love-seat, a chair and a person... the room is full.

I am also concerned that the cost of these lasers are more than makes sense for a unit that can print a menu. (A $1000 printer to print some menus seems steep to me). So let's keep the cost of the unit below $500 and ideally lower than that.

So, to narrow things down a bit:

- Colour would be ideal (you can make nicer looking menus/wine lists with colour ink and nice paper).
- I think that fax capability would be ideal (we would not be able to teach his parents to use the mac to send a fax).
- Because we are talking about generating menus and wine lists: the capability to generate good double sided prints is highly-desireable.
- Ease of use for sending a fax or copying a document is also important (parents).

Well, I know I really should have written more last night before I went to bed when I originally posted, but I didn't want to make you folks read a book. In hindsight, I realize that I should have provided some more details. I was a little naοve to not be as precise as I could.

Many thanks for the opinions already registered.

I am sure if any of you helping out in the deliberations on this are ever in the Kensington Market in Toronto and have worked up a thirst, a glass of wine or pint of beer could easily be arranged in appreciation of your assistance. (They are very nice people).
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Old Dec 8th, 2007, 01:57 PM   #9
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Now that you have elaborated, I will 'second' guytoronto's advice and reafirm staying away from inkjets.

A low cost B&W laser all-in-one, such as this HP (or similar) is more than capable of handling the location and usage you described.

--Forget the colour menus...get fancy reusable sleeves or covers.
--The laser will last longer and is ultra fast for printing (or copying) many menus.
--No ink to dryout or runout and a laser can print hundreds more pages between cartridge changes.
-- inkjet pages, printed on standard paper have issues with wetness which causes buckling and unevenness.
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If you don't need the color, my girl friend has a DCP-7020 laser/scanner/photocopier that works just fine with Leopard. It is cheap on ink too.
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