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Old May 16th, 2004, 11:38 PM   #1
 
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OK. I've been at this site for over a year and trust most of your opinions on macs. I'm having real trouble unloading my powerbook, unlike last time, and I'd like to know why.

What do you think this system is worth?

Keep in mind that it is perfect mechanically and perfect physically almost perfect (except for a few recent scratches on the bottom) and is 6 months old with 6 months left with applecare (and it comes with a laptop bag)

Be brutally honest. Also, keep in mind(for comments on what I should do) that I'm *trying* to keep up with upgrades for running the CAD and 3D graphics programs for school and my "last" computer will be the G5. (this 128mb video card in the 17" 1.5 is making my mouth water)

ok. That's it. Here are the specs.

17" 1.33_GHz PowerPC G4
512_MB DDR SDRAM
80_GB Ultra ATA Hard Disk
DVD-R/CD-RW Superdrive burns CD-RW AND DVD-R discs
Mac OS X 10.3.3
Apple applications include Mail, iChat AV, Keynote, Safari, Sherlock, Address Book, QuickTime Pro, and Developer Tools
Currently running and installed applications on the drive: Maya 5, Vectorworks 10, Adobe CS Suite, Powercadd, Macromedia MX suite, Microsoft Office etc...(for understanding of current performance level...not for sale)
17 inch active-matrix display, 1440x900 pixels resolution
PC Card Slot
Built-in AirPort Extreme 54Mbs 802.11g wireless networking
Built-in Bluetooth
Built-in 10/100/Gigabit Ethernet
Battery
Battery charger
Full-sized keyboard with 78 keys, including 12 function key, 4 arrow keys (inverted "T" arrangement), and embedded keypad, ILLUMINATED with ambient light sensor
Solid-state trackpad
ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 with AGP 4x and 64 MB of video RAM
2 built-in stereo speakers
DVI port for external monitor support
Firewire 400 port
Firewire 800 port
USB 2.0 port
S-video out port
56k internal modem with FAX capability
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Old May 17th, 2004, 10:04 AM   #2
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How much has a apple dealer offered you in on a trade? This way you save some of the gst and pst, if you are in Ontario for example...
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Old May 17th, 2004, 10:58 AM   #3
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Pamela, my feeling is you should stick with this machine. The updates to the powerbook line were pretty minor this time round. Even given the type of work that you are doing, is it worth the hassle of selling and buying and setting up just to get a barely perceptible improvement in OpenGL performance and a marginal improvement in clock speed? Most pros out there don't have equipment like yours never mind students.

I honestly think you would be disappointed with the new 17" Powerbook.

Your next major upgrade should be to the G5 Powerbooks when they come out, probably later this year or early next.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 11:10 AM   #4
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I'm inclined to agree witth Troutmaskreplica, Pamela. As a matter of fact, if you use any memory intensive applications, such as Photoshop, Maya (what do designers use for CG mockups [or "visualizations"], anyway?) or MacCAD, you'd probably want to get more than 512MB of RAM for your current Powerbook.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 11:20 AM   #5
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Ouch! That's a good point, Macaholic. Upgrade that ram right away. Nothing will give you a bigger speed bump.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 11:30 AM   #6
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I'd say it's worth about $2700 - $3000. Let's face it, you can get a 15-inch 1.5 G4 Powerbook new from Apple with the features of your Powerbook for $3299. Your Powerbook has a bit bigger screen, but is slightly slower CPU and older graphics chip.

I'm with the last two posters. Keep it, upgrade the RAM, and possibly look at getting the AppleCare extension.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 12:00 PM   #7
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My co-worker just paid 3300 for a perfect version of the same machine with extra applecare included.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 12:01 PM   #8
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I think you should get at least $3000.00 for it, considering you can pick one of these up from a retailer new for $3500.00

I know that with tax that comes up to a lot more than $3500, but you have to take into account the peace of mind a person gets from buying something new from a reputable retailer, I'm sure you are a perfectly honest person to deal with but a private seller will never be as secure a place to buy a computer as a Certified Apple Dealer. Also a new machine will have a full year warranty on it, comes with the most up to date software. and not have any scratches on the bottom. Not to mention the joy of cracking open a brand new box and unwrapping all those goodies inside.

You also have to keep in mind that the 1.5Ghz is only $3699 from apple and for $140 more you can get a faster harddrive and a better vidcard which is actually a pretty good deal, most people interested in buying a 17" powerbook will most likely be a power user and will want the most bang for his/her buck.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 12:03 PM   #9
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I also forgot to mention that a lot of people trade in their old macs when they buy new ones, which is another advantage of buying from a retailer.
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Old May 17th, 2004, 12:23 PM   #10
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I'm leaning toward $2800 tops, as well, like Kosh.
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