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Old May 8th, 2004, 05:43 PM   #1
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i'm probly going to attend McMaster for Biomedical Engineering this fall. and i attended their open hosue today to see if i can gather some last minute first hand information./ i asked around about the computer requirements but nothing seems to be able to come up with definitive answers. i need to know this since i'm planning to get my first ever mac for this...and i just need to make sure that there won't be any problems.

here's a list of softwares that MES (McMaster Engineering Society) listed on their site as being reccommended for first year Eng. but i dunno anything beyond that, except that some girl mentioned MatLab being important. is THIS the OS X version of it?? there's only one math software called matlab right? lol.

as for that MES list, here's the list:

-Microsoft Office 2000 So much more than just word processing
-Norton/McAfee Anti-Virus You WILL get viruses otherwise!
-AutoCAD Engineering 1C04
-Borland Turbo C++ (DOS) Engineering 1D04
-Maple 7 Mathematics 1NN3 (Calculus 2)
-Adobe Photoshop 6 Picture editing software
-Corel Draw 10 Microsoft Paint times a million
-Fax software No need for a fax machine

i'm guessing they can be replaced by these??

-Office Mac 2004
-no antivirus
-AutoCAD?? what's the substitute for mac here???
-Borland Turbo C++ for mac?? does it exist? or maybe xCode or other compilers??
-Maple 7?? what can i sue to replace this??
-Photoshop - no biggie
-Corel Draw - no biggie

so yea...what can i use to replace AutoCad, Borland Turbo C++ and Maple???

i would really appreciate some mcmaster engineers giving some input for this. especially anybody who might be in biomedical engineering. but i'd be greateful for any and all comment/advice/suggestions.

thx guys. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Well the developers tools have C++ (as you already seem to know.

Maple 7 exists for the Mac. here is a link ...

Maple 7 Mac install

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Old May 8th, 2004, 08:23 PM   #3
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Most of those have Mac equivalants , you could try codewarrior to sub for the borland compiler
I dont see why they would care how you comnpile programs, as long as they work on a PC, and I believe Codewarrior compiles both PC and Mac.
i dont know of any AutoCad software equiv for Mac, it may work under virtual PC, everything else is no problem.
I used to use Minitab, which is a Maple variant for a few math courses.
Why do you need Photoshop for Biomedical Engineering? I cant imagine using it enough to warrent the purchase of some of these programs.
I am almost 100% sure that all of these programs will be available in student labs at school for you to use-though it may be crowded and less comfrtable than at home, but the cost of buying software just for a few assignments in one course makes you think carefully.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 08:41 PM   #4
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who said anything about buying... [img]graemlins/heybaby.gif[/img] j/k..if i use them frequent enough, i'll probly buy it.

i dunno, but it's listed on the site. maybe it's to give eye-candy to presentations and stuff. engineering doesn't mean it's all numbers and concepts...there's design involved too. as a mac user you should know that. lol.

yea, i might try autoCAD with VPC. or maybe ArchiCAD or Ashlar-Vellum's products.

and the newest version of Maple is 9.5 if i'm not mistaken, right?? wonder why they list 7. or maybe it hasn't been updated for a while.

and i also found that MatLab is available for mac. [img]smile.gif[/img]

anybody here in eng in mac like to comment on how the computer life there is..?
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Old May 8th, 2004, 10:15 PM   #5
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I wouldn't worry about your computer. First year Engineering is about learning fundamental principles. A good scientific calculator should be all you really need. Specialized software may be important in later years, but you can worry about that when the time comes.

Word comes in handy for typing reports. Excel is handy for doing calculations that are impractical on a calculator. Don't get hung up worrying about all the other stuff now.
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Old May 8th, 2004, 10:52 PM   #6
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it's just that i'm getting that new comp now and i'd rather know now if i'm gonna get into problems later.

btw, the software i've listed is for Year 1 as per their Eng society site.
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You should to see if Mac has an Engineering computer lab with the software installed. This would solve some of your problems with the PC only apps. As I mentioned before, ask the student who are in first year at Mac if they really use all the apps and what they do. Nop point spending a pile of dollars if you don't need to

You qualify for the education versions of the software listed so they will be significantly cheaper - buy it. [img]smile.gif[/img]

If you must use the PC only version of a software title (e.g. Autocad) then you should consider buying an inexpensive used PC
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Unfortunately, for any Engineering program, Auto CAD is an essential program to have.

That being said, since AutoCAD does not have a Mac version yet and all of the other Mac CAD programs are lousy at best. Therefore, I hate to say it, but you have no other option but to go with a PC.

I wouldn't even recommend you using AutoCAD with Virtual PC. It is too slow and you will not get the performance you had hoped for.

Yet I can't help but wonder why Universities are still teaching on AutoCAD. It is a dated program - something like Quark vs. InDesign. My entire design team has switched mainly to SolidWorks. A very powerful 3D CAD software. If there is a course for SolidWorks at McMaster, I strongly suggest you look into taking that.
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any more suggestions to replacing Borland C++ Command line compiler/coders and AutoCAD??

thx.
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how 'bout this: http://www.ashlar.com/
some poeple also mention ArchiCAD.

and it seems almost a not good enoughr eason to avoid getting a mac just because of AutoCAD. the school labs do have AutoCAD...so i can use those. i never like school labs, but i guess that's an option.

when working with AutoCAD, is it just for our purposes, or will the files ever be required to be submitted? and if they do have to be submitted, will replacements like ashlar vellum's be compatible for submission??
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