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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 01:32 PM   #1
 
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And then I found THIS!

Hello all,

I started a thread a while back asking about putting forms on an iWeb .Mac hosted web site for a business I was planning to start up.

Then I found this buried deep in the fine print...

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Business Issues Portion:
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.Mac has been designed for personal use and is not intended to be used to host e-commerce businesses for marketing, promotions and sales (including, without limitation, software distribution) over the Internet. Also, .Mac accounts are not intended to be used for FTP access and downloading. The features, accounts and services which make up .Mac are limited in terms of the bandwidth for network traffic and disk utilization for storage allocated to them, as described in the .Mac feature pages. Exceeding any applicable limitation of bandwidth or capacity (for example, iDisk or e-mail account space) is prohibited. If there is excess usage on your account or any sub-account, Apple reserves the right to temporarily disable access to information available from your account through a URL, or to "bounce" emails back to senders. Repeated violations may result in termination of your account.
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In addition to the .Mac account limitations on bandwidth and disk utilization, certain commercial or business uses are prohibited, including the following:
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* Soliciting for advertisers or sponsors
* Posting sponsorships and third-party advertisements and banners
* Sending unsolicited advertising, promotional materials or commercial solicitations to third parties, including other .Mac users
* Reselling, renting or subleasing .Mac space under any circumstance
* Using or providing to any third person or entity, whether or not for a fee, any directory of or information regarding .Mac users other than for personal, non-commercial purposes
* Disseminating multi-level marketing schemes, pyramid schemes, or commercial chain letters

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So...

Anyone thinking about starting a business wen site through Apple you might as well forget it until they change the rules.

I just thought I would post this so nobody would blow the money on .Mac and then get their site shut down.

Cheers

Randi Scott
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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 01:54 PM   #2
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Hello all,

I started a thread a while back asking about putting forms on an iWeb .Mac hosted web site for a business I was planning to start up.

Then I found this buried deep in the fine print...

~~~

Business Issues Portion:
*
.Mac has been designed for personal use and is not intended to be used to host e-commerce businesses for marketing, promotions and sales (including, without limitation, software distribution) over the Internet. Also, .Mac accounts are not intended to be used for FTP access and downloading. The features, accounts and services which make up .Mac are limited in terms of the bandwidth for network traffic and disk utilization for storage allocated to them, as described in the .Mac feature pages. Exceeding any applicable limitation of bandwidth or capacity (for example, iDisk or e-mail account space) is prohibited. If there is excess usage on your account or any sub-account, Apple reserves the right to temporarily disable access to information available from your account through a URL, or to "bounce" emails back to senders. Repeated violations may result in termination of your account.
*
In addition to the .Mac account limitations on bandwidth and disk utilization, certain commercial or business uses are prohibited, including the following:
*
* Soliciting for advertisers or sponsors
* Posting sponsorships and third-party advertisements and banners
* Sending unsolicited advertising, promotional materials or commercial solicitations to third parties, including other .Mac users
* Reselling, renting or subleasing .Mac space under any circumstance
* Using or providing to any third person or entity, whether or not for a fee, any directory of or information regarding .Mac users other than for personal, non-commercial purposes
* Disseminating multi-level marketing schemes, pyramid schemes, or commercial chain letters

~~~

So...

Anyone thinking about starting a business wen site through Apple you might as well forget it until they change the rules.

I just thought I would post this so nobody would blow the money on .Mac and then get their site shut down.

Cheers

Randi Scott
Duh! .Mac has been presented as a personal system since its inception.

Besides you can do much better for the money. For example, from Infologistix, web hosting, email hosting, domain hosting I get a Wordpress blog, forums, and an unlimited number of email accounts (as opposed to simply addresses) for spouse, kids, friends, etc., unique/killable email for each course/session I teach, etc., etc..... on my personal domain, with total control for $99Cdn/year. That's not the cheapest by a long shot but Buddy is local and I get SERVICE. It is their small business package, but works beauty for family use. A package like this includes some e-commerce support, so it has been very worthwhile for the family (if only for the separate private email addresses for the individuals) and has allowed me complete freedom to dabble in small businesses that may well come and go. I pay something less than $15Cdn for my domain, again not the cheapest but semi-local. That's $114Cdn for much more than .Mac offers - and on my own domain, to boot - with the advantage that I can call Buddy up at home if necessary or 'run into' him at the local watering hole.

Shop it around, and you can do better.
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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 02:09 PM   #3
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I use 1and1.com, everything is a snap to use, great customer service too.
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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 02:19 PM   #4
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Hi,

Thanks Randi. I didn't know about that. I was considering .mac in the future, but that pretty much kills it for me.

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I want some of the great features of .mac but I also want to sell my products online. I might have to use .mac for the main part of my site and use godaddy for the commerce section.
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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 05:24 PM   #6
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I read that, and I fail to see where it says you can't have a business. All it says it not use it for mass mailing, advertising 3rd party crap, spamming and MLM practices. Which, BTW, is sort of breached by the new iWeb which has built in Google adsense capability, which produces a lot of spam ads.
Unless you are a spammer, this does not apply to you. I have had a small business on dotmac since its inception.
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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 05:56 PM   #7
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I read that, and I fail to see where it says you can't have a business. All it says it not use it for mass mailing, advertising 3rd party crap, spamming and MLM practices. Which, BTW, is sort of breached by the new iWeb which has built in Google adsense capability, which produces a lot of spam ads.
Unless you are a spammer, this does not apply to you. I have had a small business on dotmac since its inception.
I would have to agree. I went to one of the Apple seminars at the Apple store, and the guy was basically trying to sell .mac to me to use as my business website host.

I think the rule is you can use it for what you want, they just don't want their servers to be sending out spam.

They also have a business version you can buy, you just need to ask about it.
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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 06:28 PM   #8
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Duh! .Mac has been presented as a personal system since its inception.
Apple has profiled many businesses and lots use .Mac:

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http://www.apple.com/business/profiles/gallo
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www.drgallo.com

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http://www.apple.com/business/profiles/cleveland
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http://www.apple.com/business/profiles/octone

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http://www.apple.com/business/profiles/harlin
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Old Aug 17th, 2007, 07:31 PM   #9
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* Posting sponsorships and third-party advertisements and banners
Hmm. Aren't they supporting Google Adwords now? Wouldn't that be a third-party advertisement?

I assume they need to update it.
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