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Old Aug 24th, 2006, 03:34 PM   #1
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New job- need to learn ASP, PHP and more

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In a week, I'm about to go in for a second interview for a web/print designer position. The company web site works on ASP, PHP and a few others on a PC platform. I'm going to try to convince them to give me a Mac and do the the same tasks. I know the front end quite well, but have little experience with the back end. (modified a basic Poll script in PERL, but I can't remeber the program)
Is this possible, what programs should I use?
Has anyone else been in a similar situation?
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Old Aug 24th, 2006, 03:59 PM   #2
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here's a great quick resource for ASP
http://www.w3schools.com/

ASP isn't hard to learn, you can pick it up quick, since I had to learn it on my own as well. Though I haven't quite touched on PHP, it seems that PHP is little bit more complicated than ASP.

Good luck on your quest
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acc30, I found the opposite. PHP seems to be a better web language where you can get things done faster and with less processor load.

ASP is almost always a pain - we have to charge a premium to customers who want .asp...
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Old Aug 24th, 2006, 04:49 PM   #4
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In a week, I'm about to go in for a second interview for a web/print designer position. The company web site works on ASP, PHP and a few others on a PC platform. I'm going to try to convince them to give me a Mac and do the the same tasks. I know the front end quite well, but have little experience with the back end. (modified a basic Poll script in PERL, but I can't remeber the program)
Is this possible, what programs should I use?
Has anyone else been in a similar situation?
You won't have a choice what programs you use, unless you're getting a contract for a turn-key solution.

I highly recommend that you do some - no make that A LOT - of reading before you go to that interview. Google is your friend.

PHP can be written in any text-based word processor. I haven't used ASP, but I'm pretty sure it can be as well.

They might be using something like DreamWeaver for their web site and the PHP/ASP stuff is extra.

But in any case, if I was interviewing you and saw the question you posted here, you wouldn't get the job and I'm even wondering why you're applying for it.

Anyway, good luck, Margaret
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Old Aug 24th, 2006, 08:58 PM   #5
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But in any case, if I was interviewing you and saw the question you posted here, you wouldn't get the job and I'm even wondering why you're applying for it.
So quick to judge...
Knowledge of ASP and PHP was an extra thing and not required. After seeing their site, which was heavy in the sever side function, but, very badly designed, I'm going the extra step and learning some basics. The interviewer was very impressed with me and wanted me to come for the SECOND interview.
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Old Aug 24th, 2006, 09:11 PM   #6
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and I was wondering because of your tag line ....
"I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me."

just kidding

never learned php but will be soon, seems pretty beneficial. congrats on the second interview.

as for what programs to use, from what I've seen margaret is correct - old school word processor.
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Old Aug 24th, 2006, 11:40 PM   #7
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Hi all
I do a fair bbit of PHP, MySql, Css Html scripting.
Although it can be done in any text editor and just saved with a .php extension, i find it easier to do it in the same web editor i use for web pages and css sheets.

This is because, sometimes i mix up bits of html and PHP within the same script, such as having the output of a php script be html tags wrapped around the php script output then echoed out to the screen. If you have this in a web editor like dream weaver it really speeds up production.

I think Zend also has a PHp editor that is all color coded for syntax.

I think eMacs and VI text editors also have color syntax helpers.
For me it just makes sense to do everything in one editor such as Dreamweaver,
You can install the PHP engine, installl MySql for Database integration, turn on web file sharing in the sharing control panel on any mac and test all your PHP and HTML, javascript, CSS etc to see how your finished pages turn out.

Also, you would not use both ASP and PHP on one site.

Why on earth would they want to hire someone who does both PHP and ASP, usually only one type of scritping should be used by a company, it would only make sense Although one might might have an advantage over the other, I cant imagine why a a company would invest two very similer platforms, one of which is free-opensurce and one of which cost big money from Microsoft.
Im pretty sure you will do just one at a time.And if you have a choice, stick to PHP since it runs easily on a Mac and the price is right.
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acc30, I found the opposite. PHP seems to be a better web language where you can get things done faster and with less processor load.

ASP is almost always a pain - we have to charge a premium to customers who want .asp...
My friends adviced me to use PHP too, but my work uses ASP, so I had to pick that up. I haven't touched on PHP yet, so I can't compare from experience, though from what I hear, it is a better web language.

I do plan on using PHP on my new site, but as of now, the job doesn't require me to it. And as winwintoo pointed out, you don't use both ASP and PHP on one site.
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you might want to look into MySQL as well. it's unlikely you'll be able to scratch the surface before your next interview, but MySQL is the cat's meow.
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There is nothing wrong with using ASP if you are competent.
What I have often seen happen is that some MS programmer is asked to take over a website. They will use the "easy" MS tools to "make things" on a website. Code, integration and security are usually compromised and the end product not up to web standards.
I do like some aspects of .asp (and it's many variants), but overall it's marred by lazy programmers.
PHP is not without issues but it is more accessible.

I still like ColdFusion (but not the JAVA layer it runs on) as a fast webdev language.
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