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Old Jul 4th, 2006, 12:53 PM   #1
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Firewire Camcorders or Not...

After busting my 8 year old analoge Camcorder, I'm in the market for a new one..

Now I use iMovie alot and knowing that if a camcorder has firewire on it you can import the clips right into imove, and imovie will even seperate each scene for you, which is a great time saver.

Firewire has lost the fight over connectivity, even Mac seems to be abondoning it with it new USB 2 ipods and so..and most of the good camcorders out there like the one I'm eyeing JVC Everio 20 Gigs use USB 2.

So what camera's out there are still useing firewire is my question..and another thing I think is waiting for a Digicam with a minumum 4 Mp buit-in still, Hitachi has a DVD one with 4MP built in, but the price right now is a bit over a grand, so I'm thinking of waiting a year or so...this way I get 2 in 1, which is cool when travelling.

So my question is should I go with the Firewire aspect or with the 2 in 1 aspect...
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Old Jul 4th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #2
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Firewire is still by far the best option. FW will give you the greatest compatibility. I was actually working with a collegue at work at trying to get his camcorder talking via USB on his PC. It took him hours to import video via USB using proprietary softwar that came with the camcorder. When I connected the camcorder to his PC via Firewire, the capture just worked.

Beware that USB may be a PC only option. The USB option requires drivers which may not exist for the Mac.

I am still a fan of MiniDV as a storage medium. What will you do once the drive is full on the hard drive based units? Packing a few extra tapes is MUCH easier.
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Old Jul 4th, 2006, 01:43 PM   #3
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What will you do once the drive is full on the hard drive based units? Packing a few extra tapes is MUCH easier.
I usually transfer all my footage to the Mac, anyways, now are manufatures ceasing to make Firewire cams.? if so I should pick one up right?
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Veej, I think the JVC camcorder you're eyeing records in Mpeg-2 format which means you will have to convert to DV for iMovie. Same with the Hitachi DVD-Cams.
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Your premise is incorrect - Firewire is not being abandoned. Its simply not needed in an audio player. It is standard on most if not all Mini-DV camcorders.
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Old Jul 4th, 2006, 04:18 PM   #6
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Your premise is incorrect - Firewire is not being abandoned. Its simply not needed in an audio player. It is standard on most if not all Mini-DV camcorders.

So I should stay away from the DVD camcorders and Mpeg 2 recording cams.

Thats why over the weekend when I attached a Sony DVD camcorder by USB the imac didn't register it, like "ender 78" said "USB may be a PC only option" now it all makes sense..

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My Opinion, Stay away from the DVD camera's and also I heard that the newer HDD cameras dont produced a great quaility image. The MiniDV cameras allow you to connect and go with lots of software on a PC and on the mac. It just works better and well. You will also be able to control your camera easier with lots of software for things such as Stop-Motion Capture.

I was thinking about a DVD/HDD camera but read that there would be nightmares with the editing of those formats.

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So I should stay away from the DVD camcorders and Mpeg 2 recording cams.

Thats why over the weekend when I attached a Sony DVD camcorder by USB the imac didn't register it, like "ender 78" said "USB may be a PC only option" now it all makes sense..

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MiniDV will offer superior quality to MPEG 2. It is compressed less. The only real value of the DVD camcorders is being able to play your footage directly in a DVD player.

If you're going to edit, get a MiniDV cam with Firewire. Sony has a consumer HD camera that looks promising, a little pricy though.
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There is also a nice Panasonic 3CCD unit for under $800 [Canon has no consumer 3CCD unit]. I also like MiniDV because you can buy the tapes anywhere. You don't want to be on vacation and run out of room on the DVD. You can buy miniDV tapes anywhere, not so for the mini DVDs.
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Veej,

Go to your local Henry's and ask for a tour of the Panasonic camcorders. Look specifically for the "3 CCD" models - these models (choose your price range,) consistently produce the highest resolution and best colour saturation of most consumer camcorders.

They all have Firewire connectivity, and should work seamlessly with your Mac.
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