Powermac 2.0 Dual or Dual Core - ehMac.ca
Facebook
Twitter
YouTube
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Advertise


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Nov 19th, 2005, 10:37 PM   #1
Full Citizen
 
lightbulb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 330
Powermac 2.0 Dual or Dual Core

Am in the market for a new Power Mac and think I'd be quite happy with the slowest model. Have found the revision dual 2.0 for $2,100 or stick with the new release dual core 2.0 @ $2,400. Need to consider the cost of additional ram and future re-sale. Which way would you go?
lightbulb is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old Nov 19th, 2005, 11:39 PM   #2
Honourable Citizen
 
iPetie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kitchener
Posts: 1,779
Send a message via AIM to iPetie Send a message via MSN to iPetie
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightbulb
Am in the market for a new Power Mac and think I'd be quite happy with the slowest model. Have found the revision dual 2.0 for $2,100 or stick with the new release dual core 2.0 @ $2,400. Need to consider the cost of additional ram and future re-sale. Which way would you go?
Hmmm, tough call. The advantage of the dual core is that it has faster memory and double the L2 cache. Also, from what I've researched, the dual core runs much more quietly than the dual processor. I'd consider how long you're going to keep the machine for. If it's a couple of years, save the $300 bucks as both machines apparently XBench close to a wash. Short term, the dual core will keep a higher value but not much.

Either way, they're both very, very fast machines.
__________________
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems,
but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort".
Herm Albright
iPetie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 01:34 AM   #3
Full Citizen
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 636
I just picked up a dual core 2.0 PM a couple days ago ... my impressions so far are extremely positive ...

MPEG4 encode (for iPod 5G):
- 2.5 hours on iMac G5 (1.8 Ghz - 1 Gb RAM)
- 1 hour on new PM (512 Mb RAM)
(Not a scientific test I realize).

I am also very impressed with how quiet it is ... can't wait to see what happens when I add more RAM.

I think one specific benefit of the dual core 2.0 machine vs the previous 2.0 DP model is that the old model had 4 slots for memory (8 on the DP 2.3 and 2.7) while the new machine has 8 (for all models).
Derrick is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 02:06 AM   #4
Full Citizen
 
Commodus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 515
Send a message via AIM to Commodus
You're already dropping a significant amount of change on a computer - don't sell yourself short. The dual-core systems are slightly faster at the same clock speed. More importantly, you'll want PCI Express slots for future expansion cards (unless you're dependent on legacy hardware). Even if you won't expand it at all, you don't want to buy a system which will be less appealing to future buyers.

Also, please feel free to use pronouns such as I, we, and you at the start of your sentences. Thank you.
Commodus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 10:58 AM   #5
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commodus
Also, please feel free to use pronouns such as I, we, and you at the start of your sentences. Thank you.
You know it's funny you mention this because I'm learning a language right now in which it is common to not use pronouns like this and I didn't even notice that he wasn't using them.

As far as the powermac goes, ask yourself a couple of questions. 1. Do you want 4 slots (old) or 8 slots (new) for ram along with 2Gb ram stick support. 2. Is PCI-X or PCI Express more important to you?
ncoffey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 11:06 AM   #6
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,966
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightbulb
Am in the market for a new Power Mac and think I'd be quite happy with the slowest model. Have found the revision dual 2.0 for $2,100 or stick with the new release dual core 2.0 @ $2,400. Need to consider the cost of additional ram and future re-sale. Which way would you go?
Have a look here for findings:
http://www.barefeats.com/dc20.html
ArtistSeries is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 11:10 AM   #7
Honourable Citizen
 
Pelao's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: GTA ish
Posts: 3,175
Send a message via AIM to Pelao
Comapre the graphic cards - I think the new dueal-core PMs have a better one, with more Ram - not an insignificant factor.
__________________
A MacPro 2.66 Xeon, an iMac G5, a Uni MB, a wee PowerBook 12" 1.5, an eMac, a couple of cameras, a lens collection and a wonderful iPod. Oh, and a delicious wife.

"Words are sacred. They deserve respect. If you get the right ones in the right order, you can nudge the world a little." Tom Stoppard

“No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader".
Robert Frost
Pelao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 11:31 AM   #8
Honourable Citizen
 
iPetie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kitchener
Posts: 1,779
Send a message via AIM to iPetie Send a message via MSN to iPetie
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtistSeries
Have a look here for findings:
http://www.barefeats.com/dc20.html
Unfortunately, that tests a Dual Core against a Single Processor. Lightbulb is looking at a Dual Processor against a Dual Core.
__________________
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems,
but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort".
Herm Albright
iPetie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 12:00 PM   #9
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 106
What you need to think about is this, for the $300 more, you end up getting double the slots for memory (8 vs. 4), a faster stock graphics card with far more future value, being that it uses PCI-Ex instead of PCI-X, and more L2 cache (1MB per core). The speed difference you observe during normal (or even advanced) use won't differ very much, but the difference when you are looking to upgrade the memory or the graphics will be very noticable.

Also, in terms of possible sale in the future, the generation difference between the G5 PCI-X and the G5 PCI-Ex will be considerable. For me, if I was already spending over $2000 on a computer, I would go all the way to futureproof my purchase.

Either way, you're getting a great machine, enjoy it
AlephNull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 20th, 2005, 12:20 PM   #10
Full Citizen
 
Commodus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 515
Send a message via AIM to Commodus
Quote:
Originally Posted by iPetie
Unfortunately, that tests a Dual Core against a Single Processor. Lightbulb is looking at a Dual Processor against a Dual Core.
No it's not. It's testing a single core system, not single processor. If you read carefully, they make it clear that the old model is an old dual 2.0 with two separate processors.
Commodus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dual G5 PowerMac for $1799.99 Cdn at London Drugs! Elias26 Anything Mac 5 Aug 8th, 2005 05:32 PM
Price/Interest Check: PowerMac G5 Dual 2 ghz CN Anything Mac 6 Jul 7th, 2005 02:03 PM
Interested in a Powermac G4 MDD Dual 867? ron_g Anything Mac 1 Apr 30th, 2005 04:47 PM
PowerMac G5 Dual 2GHz k0smik Anything Mac 2 Apr 28th, 2005 05:41 PM
Core Image/Video - no PowerMac G4 compatible graphic cards! stand_1998 Anything Mac 6 Apr 12th, 2005 03:57 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:09 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 1999 - 2012, ehMac.ca All rights reserved. ehMac is not affiliated with Apple Inc. Mac, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, Apple TV are trademarks of Apple Inc. Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2

Tribe.ca: Urban living in Toronto!