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Disappointed with Steve's keynote...

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#1 ·
Not that he said anything wrong or that switching to intel is bad, but I was just expecting there to be announcements on some new products, like iBooks, iPods, or something of that nature...
 
#2 ·
Somebody help me -- Remember I'm a techno moron. That's why I have a Mac.

My question is, what's the big deal about the Intel switch?

More importantly (and this a question I see asked a lot, but I see no answer to it) does this mean OS X will run on ANY computer?

Second, what about the current line of Macs. If they are going to obsolete soon, is there a price drop at least?
 
#5 ·
This message truly has to hurt.

We have an indication that PPC has no future, but we also don't know what to expect with Intel.

Steve mentioned that it's going to take a lot of effort to get the Intel platform working optimally.

Today, the Intel(desktop) platform has the same heat/power issues that the G5 experienced. The saving grace is the use of dualcore and low power mobile CPUs.

I was pondering getting a new PowerMac, but now that this announcement has come out, I'm holding off till I see what the Intel platform offers. How will the machines benchmark?

My gut says this is good news for Powerbooks, not so good news for PowerMacs.
 
#6 ·
I was just expecting there to be announcements on some new products, like iBooks, iPods, or something of that nature...
this is what happens when steve is scheduled to speak at these types of events - we all hope for new equipment announcements, and then get disappointed when there are none, or they arent as good as we hoped.

this was just the WWDC - wait until the next macworld in july - perhaps there will be something then - if not, then you could always post another disappointed thread.
 
#7 ·
najibs said:
Not that he said anything wrong or that switching to intel is bad, but I was just expecting there to be announcements on some new products, like iBooks, iPods, or something of that nature...
It's the World Wide <b>Developers'</b> Conference: there was no reason to expect any announcements of consumer-grade products, though there should be an iBook bump soon.
 
#8 ·
Klaatu said:
More importantly (and this a question I see asked a lot, but I see no answer to it) does this mean OS X will run on ANY computer?
Jobs didn't say. He said there would be PowerPC Macs and Intel Macs. We'll have to wait several months, if not a year, to see.
 
#9 ·
Fact is Steve said IBM can't get the G5 to work in a PB. So the first Intel machines are not expected to roll out for a year, and its unlikely that they will start with the powerbook. Its gonna be quite a while till we se any significant improvements to the PB line, ibooks will likely go wide screen though.

Undoubtably people are gonna hold off buying if they can, but when your computer business is up 40%, there probably isn't a better opportunity to make this kind of switch.
 
#13 ·
jicon said:
This message truly has to hurt.

We have an indication that PPC has no future, but we also don't know what to expect with Intel.

Steve mentioned that it's going to take a lot of effort to get the Intel platform working optimally.

Today, the Intel(desktop) platform has the same heat/power issues that the G5 experienced. The saving grace is the use of dualcore and low power mobile CPUs.

I was pondering getting a new PowerMac, but now that this announcement has come out, I'm holding off till I see what the Intel platform offers. How will the machines benchmark?

My gut says this is good news for Powerbooks, not so good news for PowerMacs.
You have the X-Box that will have a faster processor than the top of the line Mac. My guess is that Steve pissed off the guys at IBM.

I second your gut feelings...
 
#15 ·
While the software is important it is the hardware that got me to try a G5.

The reality is that after this announcement there is now even less of a difference in the harware offerings.

All the parts in a mac except the cpu and supporting hardware (motherboard) are now the same as a PC. It has been like this since macs dropped scsi and went usb. Now even the cpu and motherbaord archetecture wil be the same. How is Apple going to justify their HUGE markups? People who talk about Apple being at the forefront of hardware just don't know anything about PC hardware. How long did it take to get AGP on Macs?

Maybe this will finally result in reasonable prices across the Mac lineup. If not I doubt I will ever buy a Mac again. There is no excuse for the markup left if the cpu is also the same. I'm sure Apple will use a ROM or code like a ROM to stop people from running OS X on their PCs but this is just crippling code like Apple did with SCSI drives (hard drives and CD-ROMs) (how many of us ran FWB software to un-cripple SCSI?) so it won't work even when it should.
Bring back the Mac clones!
:mad:

If the only difference is the OS we shouldn't have to pay for it twice: once when we buy the OS and again for the premium on the hardware that is no different.
 
#20 ·
Manny and MacDoc,
Someone said that the reason to get a Mac is for the software.
I disagree, it's for the performance. I can get Adobe Photoshop for example on the PC. The reason we still buy Macs is for the overall performance versus Intel.
Already the optimization for PC products such as Dreamweaver is better on the PC, I do not see why or how developers will feel about optimizing for the Mac in the long run.
If you do a lot of video processing, encoding, editing Windows/AMD is faster/less expensive.
 
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