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Old Nov 11th, 2020, 01:41 PM   #11
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So really there is nothing from Apple that has some user upgradeability options at a reasonable price. I can do a well sorted out iMac 5K with good specs for half but lose any upgradeability beyond RAM. There is middle no middle ground.
I was under the impression the most recent Minis (not the M1s) were quite upgradable, and relatively powerful. Do they not fit the bill?
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Old Nov 11th, 2020, 02:52 PM   #12
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I was under the impression the most recent Minis (not the M1s) were quite upgradable, and relatively powerful. Do they not fit the bill?
I know the Mini is a little upgradeable but it is not simple. I have upgraded some old Mini's with SSD's and that is some operation. Not sure hard but nothing like going into a tower as Apple has done in the past. It was such a great feature to be able to add hard drive's simply and easily with little fuss. Back in the day our 2 production G4's would have all 4 bays full and space was never something I thought about. Now on my 5K iMac which has 1TB SSD, I have around 50 gigs free, which fluctuates. I offloaded the data storage to a USB drive, have USB drive connected for TimeMachine and have a 3rd USB drive I use for some personal storage and as a scratch drive for Photoshop and will use it for Adobe After Effects once I get the hang of the basics. This leaves me with one USB spot left. Yes I could do a hub, or buy a multi bay hard drive enclosure but that does not accomplish what I want in a powerful work computer and has a tangle of things connected to what could and should be a simple elegant design while functional and giving me what I need.
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Old Nov 13th, 2020, 12:17 PM   #13
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Interesting....


"the new MacBook Air with M1 chip can beat all models of
the 16-inch MacBook Pro with Intel processors."


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Old Nov 17th, 2020, 11:00 PM   #14
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The Verge takes a close look at the new M1 MacMini.
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Old Nov 18th, 2020, 03:09 PM   #15
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I watched one popular youtubers review of the M1 and he was pretty impressed. Apple has generally been great with their own software and their own hardware integration making it much more powerful then what the numbers imply. Problem is everyone else. Apparently Photoshop won't have native software for the new cpu till sometime next year. Not sure if that only means for Photoshop of the entire CC suite.

It does seem the prices of the M1's are a little cheaper then their intel counter parts but then I am not sure how the M1 stacks up with its GPU processing.
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wonderings, the M1 chips have 8-core GPUs. Apparently that's pretty powerful. I haven't gotten into the nuts and bolts...

It does appear that we'll need to learn new things, like startup key combinations, according to MacRumors:

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On Intel Macs, you hold Command R when turning on the Mac to get to macOS Recovery for reinstalling macOS, accessing Disk Utility, or restoring from a Time Machine backup.

On an *Apple Silicon* Mac, you can still get to macOS Recovery, but the key presses are different. Turn on the Mac, press and hold the power button until the startup options window comes up, and then click on the gear icon that's labeled "Options."
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Now that people are in possession of their new M1 Macs I've seen several posts in the news and on social media about how their Mac mini or their MacBook Air is trouncing the 16" MacBook Pro. While I am thrilled that Apple was able to achieve this huge leap in computing performance I must say as someone who got a ~$3400 (CAD) 16" MacBook Pro [i9] just last year it does not feel great seeing a machine that costs less than half running circles around my beautiful beast!

Whenever you buy a new computer it is expected that progress will continue and your machine won't be leader of the pack for long. However something like this is just unprecedented. It actually has me considering trading in my 16" MBP and getting the M1 13" MBP. With the current trade-in value it'd (almost) be an even swap. I know my 16" MBP would serve me well for years but at the same time if I can inexpensively "upgrade" to a faster machine that has double the battery life it is tempting. The main thing I'd be losing is the extra screen real estate.
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Before you lose the screen space...

Keep in mind that 3.5 weeks after you do the trade-in, Apple will release M2 computers (or A16 etc.) blasting past this month's M1/A14 processors.



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Now that people are in possession of their new M1 Macs I've seen several posts in the news and on social media about how their Mac mini or their MacBook Air is trouncing the 16" MacBook Pro. While I am thrilled that Apple was able to achieve this huge leap in computing performance I must say as someone who got a ~$3400 (CAD) 16" MacBook Pro [i9] just last year it does not feel great seeing a machine that costs less than half running circles around my beautiful beast!

Whenever you buy a new computer it is expected that progress will continue and your machine won't be leader of the pack for long. However something like this is just unprecedented. It actually has me considering trading in my 16" MBP and getting the M1 13" MBP. With the current trade-in value it'd (almost) be an even swap. I know my 16" MBP would serve me well for years but at the same time if I can inexpensively "upgrade" to a faster machine that has double the battery life it is tempting. The main thing I'd be losing is the extra screen real estate.
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Keep in mind that 3.5 weeks after you do the trade-in, Apple will release M2 computers (or A16 etc.) blasting past this month's M1/A14 processors.
LOL, with my luck maybe.

Pretty sure Apple's all done releasing stuff for 2020 though. Even still... when M2 (or whatever its called) does come out it's hard to imagine that the performance/power management vs M1 would be as dramatic a difference as the current gap between M1 and Intel.
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An informative article on how the M1 SoC handles memory....

With M1 Macs, memory isn't what it used to be (MacWorld)
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