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Old Apr 30th, 2020, 01:14 PM   #1
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Imac purchase

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I'm in the market to purchase a new imac to replace my late 2009, 21.5" unit. I would prefer to have a 512 ssd instead of the HD. Apple, in their wisdom only pre-installs this size ssd in their mid and high end units.

Would it be advisable to purchase the low end unit with a HD and after a couple of years install a ssd? Or, should I use our grandchildrens' inheritance and buy the mid range unit with the built in ssd?

We are also looking to purchase a printer with fax capability to replace our old Canon MX330. While it has been a good printer it has now started to leave ink smears on the paper's edge no matter how often I try to clean it. We have read reviews on a number of makes and are confused by the problems people have with all brands. We are looking at prices between $100 and $150 so could someone recommend one please?

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Here's a thought for you.

Buy a USB 500 GB mini SSD (about $100) and use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone the resident HD onto your new USB SSD via the new machine's USB port.

Then leave the mini SSD plugged in permanently to the machine, select the mini USB SSD as your startup disk and your speed will be super fast compared to the original HD.

You can then use the original HD as a spare storage drive and enjoy the SSD speed as a bonus as your startup disk. Did this on my 2012 Mac Mini and it works like a charm.
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Old Apr 30th, 2020, 09:37 PM   #3
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Thanks sinc,

I thought of using an external ssd but I'm trying to keep things simple for my wife. I am using time machine so I do have a backup and should be able to migrate the info.

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Wait.

An iMac refresh is about to happen.

Also consider other options, like upgradability. I purchased a new (2017 model) iMac 5K 27" i7 custom BTO last year (I missed the 19 March 2019 model by a few weeks).

I went with that model specifically in order to ensure future RAM upgradability, as the other (21.5-inch) models don't come with user-accessible RAM slots. Like the laptops, the machine you buy is the machine you're stuck with for the rest of its life (see caveat below). I spent a good chunk of cash on that machine, and couldn't stretch it to include a RAM expansion at time-of-purchase. I'm saving my loonies to do so later this year (via Canadaram.com, my go-to place for memory).

We don't know if Apple will offer RAM upgradability in the next-generation iMac, but there will still be existing model stock in the store when the announcement is made, and you'll have more options to choose from.


CAVEAT:

I just checked the current (2019) iMac models at the Apple Store online. This is what they say about memory upgrades, which is news to me, but still represents a reason to go with the 27-inch models:
Note that the 21.5-inch iMac comes with 8GB of memory built into the computer. If you think you may need more memory in the future, it may be preferable to upgrade at the time of purchase. Memory can only be upgraded by an Apple Authorised Service Provider if you choose to upgrade at a later date.
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Old May 1st, 2020, 03:56 PM   #5
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Thanks CubaMark,

I also read that article about the possible refresh of the imac.
Hopefully they will have an access port in the 21.5" for ram and that they install ssd as standard equipment.

The 27" unit would be nice to have unfortunately it would not fit on our desk besides a printer.

I'm in no great hurry as most stores are closed anyway. There is a dealer in Nanaimo that i want to visit first to discuss possible trading in our 2009 imac. Apple will only recycle it.

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Thanks CubaMark,

I also read that article about the possible refresh of the imac.
Hopefully they will have an access port in the 21.5" for ram and that they install ssd as standard equipment.

The 27" unit would be nice to have unfortunately it would not fit on our desk besides a printer.

I'm in no great hurry as most stores are closed anyway. There is a dealer in Nanaimo that i want to visit first to discuss possible trading in our 2009 imac. Apple will only recycle it.

Thanks,
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I would not be hopefully on Apple giving easier access for upgrades, if anything they are going the opposite route. Thankfully the 27" still lates you upgrade the RAM for now. I could see that going away though as they try and push their so called "pro" computers.
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I would not be hopefully on Apple giving easier access for upgrades, if anything they are going the opposite route. Thankfully the 27" still lates you upgrade the RAM for now. I could see that going away though as they try and push their so called "pro" computers.
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Thanks Wonderings,

I see Apple has now upgraded the 13" Mac book pro with a basic ssd (256) and the scissors keyboard.

Maybe their is hope for an upgraded Imac.

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Hi,
Thanks Wonderings,

I see Apple has now upgraded the 13" Mac book pro with a basic ssd (256) and the scissors keyboard.

Maybe their is hope for an upgraded Imac.

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Nothing really new in the new MacBook Pros. Better specs as should be expected, but same ports, same design, same basic computer but upgraded. Now it is a good computer, I have a 13" MacBook and purchased it for the size as my old "15 was just to big for travel on a motorcycle. They still have no upgrade options for the new MacBook Pros that were just released. Even if only the hard drive and RAM, but per Apple they suggest you get what you need at time of purchase... they leave out that you cannot upgrade after.

These are quotes from Apple.ca when getting info on RAM and Hard drive

"Note: MacBook Pro memory is not user accessible. If you think you may need more memory in the future, consider upgrading at the time of purchase."

"Please note that the storage is built into the computer, so if you think you’ll need additional storage capacity in the future, it’s important to upgrade at the time of purchase."

So a pro computer that has no upgradeable options in even the most basic ways. I miss the Apple of old where form and function were so wonderfully balanced.
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So a pro computer that has no upgradeable options in even the most basic ways. I miss the Apple of old where form and function were so wonderfully balanced.
I'm with you on this one. Ridiculous to throw that much cash at something that you can't upgrade. I understand the desire to get the laptop as thin as possible, but there needs to be a balance.
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