2017 MacBook Pro or 2018 MacBook Air? - ehMac.ca
Facebook
Twitter
YouTube
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Advertise


View Poll Results: What to get?
2017 MacBook Pro 6 85.71%
2018 MacBook Air 1 14.29%
Live with the 2009 iMac for now 0 0%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 12:22 AM   #1
Honourable Citizen
 
dona83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 6,499
2017 MacBook Pro or 2018 MacBook Air?

I'm in the process of deciding between these two laptops that'll be purchased for business use brand new. The MacBook Pro is $1599 which is $200 off MSRP while the MacBook Air is at MSRP. My main uses will be video editing and AutoCAD, maybe some gaming.

MacBook Pro advantages:
Better Geekbench score
Better GPU
Brighter display with wide gamut

MacBook Air advantages:
Lighter
TouchID
Supposedly improved keyboard

I think I am leaning towards the MacBook Pro, the only thing that would sway me to the Air is TouchID. No, I don't have the budget to go up to a TouchID MacBook Pro.

My alternate is continuing to work on a 2009 iMac which is quite slow, sometimes annoying with AutoCAD, really annoying when trying to video edit (it's slow).
__________________
2017 MacBook Air, 2009 iMac 21.5", iPhone XR 128GB Black, iPad Pro 10.5" 256GB Wifi+LTE
dona83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 06:06 AM   #2
Honourable Citizen
 
polywog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Orleans, On
Posts: 1,482
I suppose it depends on if you’re talking base models or not. The Air has the standard 8Gb and an ultra tiny SSD. So the money you save if you lean towards the air could be invested in 16GB/Better SSD or 1TB USB C drives can be had for cheap, too.
polywog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 07:20 AM   #3
Honourable Citizen
 
CubaMark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 17,302
Send a message via AIM to CubaMark
Until you said "video editing" I was going to lean toward the new (2018) Retina MacBook Air, particularly now that Apple has (a) supposedly fixed the keyboard (on the MBPro too) and (b) has an extended warranty in place to deal with the keyboard issues that have arisen.

But - you'll need the better performance of the MBP and the GPU. And in addition to the keyboard notes above, Apple has (supposedly) also fixed the display cable issue (and has an extended warranty program in place to address 'em).

And of course, a friendly reminder, that you must load up whichever laptop you choose with the maximum RAM you can afford, since there's no post-purchase upgrade possibilities. You don't want to be doing video on 8gb of RAM.

Lastly: do yourself a BIG favour, and use an external keyboard for gaming (EDIT: whenever possible, actually). I don't personally trust Apple's keyboards - even the new and improved - to stand up to any "abuse" (i.e. typical gaming use). I'd treat 'em with kid gloves as long as possible.

As you may have read elsewhere, I recently purchased a 5k iMac 27". This is a huge change for me, as I've been a laptop-only guy since... well, since my PowerBook 160! But I couldn't justify plopping down that kind of cash on a new MBP since Apple still hadn't issued the keyboard repair program (and the display cable problem had just reared its ugly head). That, combined with the new (stupid) rule on AppleCare (gotta buy it up-front, essentially, adding another $500 to the cost of the hardware), meant no more road-warrioring for me....
__________________
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
The Cuban Revolution as Socialist Human Development Brill Books (Amazon Paperback)

Last edited by CubaMark; Jun 12th, 2019 at 08:07 AM.
CubaMark is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 08:54 AM   #4
Full Citizen
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Hammer
Posts: 789
Dona83 do you have an Apple Watch?

Reason I ask is i recently started using a 13" 2018 MacBook Pro (with Touch ID) and to be completely honest I never use it. I set it up was all excited for it.. and ... well. I use an external Bluetooth Keyboard /magic track pad with a port replicator for external monitors most of the time. When I am at my desk I unlock with BT keyboard and my laptop is tucked away with the lid closed. When I take my laptop to meetings i have "Allow your Apple Watch to unlock your Mac" turned on. Again that unlocks my laptop so no need for Touch ID.

TouchID is a key now almost crucial part of my day to day work on my iPhone and when I was rocking an iPad Air I missed it more then you could imagine. So I am not anti Touch ID... I just don't use it on my Laptop. I don't do a lot of purchases, Apple Pay etc..

Look at your workflow to see if TouchID is really a breaking point, or a nice/cool thing to have.

IF DisplayLink would get their sh*t fixed so that when in my port replicator my laptop didn't think "the screen was being shared" I would be able to unlock with the watch and never type my password again! (other then on first boot lol)

BReligion
__________________
"Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned for Sega. " - Brodie Bruce :: Mallrats ::
BReligion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 09:03 AM   #5
Honourable Citizen
 
wonderings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Waterloo
Posts: 5,140
The MacBook Pro is going to have a better GPU and for pro work will be better then the MacBook Air. Have a look in the refurb store, you can probably get better specs and save a couple hundred in the process.

What is the budget for the laptop? If you want a laptop with a 512 gig drive OR 16 gigs of RAM you will be paying $2000. Costs more for less these days. Can't imagine video editing on something with 8 gigs of RAM and also would not want to have to always rely on external drives for space. These so called "pro" laptops are not the greatest unless you drop a bunch of cash on them to upgrade because as CubaMark said you can only do it once, Apple does not allow for upgrades down the road.
__________________
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” Bishop Desmond Tutu
wonderings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 09:18 AM   #6
Honourable Citizen
 
CubaMark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 17,302
Send a message via AIM to CubaMark
An additional thought, prompted by wonderings comments: there *may* be an upgrade path for the SSD from OWC or one of the other aftermarket shops, but regardless, I wouldn't be too concerned about buying a large internal drive (256 fine). Video editing will (should) be done from an external anyway, and with the four thunderbolt ports, you'll have lots of places to plug in those external drives (remembering to set the scratch drive to the external - perhaps a different external than the one your source material resides on).

And I feel your pain, if you're like me, having to go from a 2tb spinning internal drive down to a 128gb SSD... the speed is great, but not having everything I ever created on hand without plugging in an extenal, man, that was a tough adjustment.
__________________
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
The Cuban Revolution as Socialist Human Development Brill Books (Amazon Paperback)
CubaMark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 09:37 AM   #7
Honourable Citizen
 
robert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Guelph, ON, CA
Posts: 1,034
I went from a Macpro with 4 internal 2 TB drives to an imac with one external, for itunes, a few years ago.

Quite an adjustment for sure, but soon realized most files were archivable and not needed day to day. Just a new way of thinking/working. Now if I could port that thinking over to my office...
__________________
Torn between the pencil and the mouse-Apple pencil.
robert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 10:04 AM   #8
Resident Curmudgeon
 
SINC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Central Alberta
Posts: 84,876
Send a message via AIM to SINC
I bought my mid-2015 - 15" retina MBP in June of 2016 brand new and bought Applecare at the same time, it is a 2.8 GHz i7 with 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB SSD. Nearly $4K in all.

It has been a real workhorse and I have well over 6,000 hours on it, trouble free until now. Took it into the Apple Store last Friday after wearing the 'A' key right off the keyboard and the battery with over 1015 cycles on it was not performing well. They ran tests and agreed the battery was toast and I got an email last evening the parts to repair it had arrived so will be dropping it off today.

They told me they would also replace the top board which included both the battery and a new keyboard at zero cost to me and about $1,100 to them.

My Applecare expires June 29, so got this done in the nick of time.

Now I have a decision to make as to what my next machine will be. No way can I afford to get a new MBP with a 1TB drive again and I will really miss it, but I too will be facing a storage management issue. I cannot see myself having any less onboard than a 500 GB SSD. My website, (now 12 years worth of files) takes a lot of room for sure.

My daughter, a VP at an elementary school, just bought a new MB Air with a 128GB SSD and pays Apple about $13 a month for 2GB icloud space and says she has all the space she ever needs and no regrets in leaving all the backup drives, etc. behind a couple of years ago. Her new machine only cost her about $1,800, so it would seem that one can live without all that space.

All that is well and good as long as you have high-speed internet at all times, but I don't. We travel in our motor home a lot in the summer and wind up in many spots with sketchy wifi available and while my iPhone has 10GB a month in data available, it does not last long on the road to upload my dialy website at about 700MB per day.

I am now faced with ponying up for a big SSD, buying even more data for cell use or maybe, just maybe shutting down the web site.

Decisions, decisions for us all these days.
__________________
Visit my website:
St. Albert's Place On The Web
(Over 3.1 million folks have.)
SINC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 10:20 AM   #9
Honourable Citizen
 
wonderings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Waterloo
Posts: 5,140
Quote:
Originally Posted by SINC View Post
I bought my mid-2015 - 15" retina MBP in June of 2016 brand new and bought Applecare at the same time, it is a 2.8 GHz i7 with 16 GB RAM and a 1 TB SSD. Nearly $4K in all.

It has been a real workhorse and I have well over 6,000 hours on it, trouble free until now. Took it into the Apple Store last Friday after wearing the 'A' key right off the keyboard and the battery with over 1015 cycles on it was not performing well. They ran tests and agreed the battery was toast and I got an email last evening the parts to repair it had arrived so will be dropping it off today.

They told me they would also replace the top board which included both the battery and a new keyboard at zero cost to me and about $1,100 to them.

My Applecare expires June 29, so got this done in the nick of time.

Now I have a decision to make as to what my next machine will be. No way can I afford to get a new MBP with a 1TB drive again and I will really miss it, but I too will be facing a storage management issue. I cannot see myself having any less onboard than a 500 GB SSD. My website, (now 12 years worth of files) takes a lot of room for sure.

My daughter, a VP at an elementary school, just bought a new MB Air with a 128GB SSD and pays Apple about $13 a month for 2GB icloud space and says she has all the space she ever needs and no regrets in leaving all the backup drives, etc. behind a couple of years ago. Her new machine only cost her about $1,800, so it would seem that one can live without all that space.

All that is well and good as long as you have high-speed internet at all times, but I don't. We travel in our motor home a lot in the summer and wind up in many spots with sketchy wifi available and while my iPhone has 10GB a month in data available, it does not last long on the road to upload my dialy website at about 700MB per day.

I am now faced with ponying up for a big SSD, buying even more data for cell use or maybe, just maybe shutting down the web site.

Decisions, decisions for us all these days.

Apple knows once they get you into their subscription for storage they have you for a long time. $13 a month so you can save files you can't fit on your hard drive is crazy in my eyes. So in a year you have spent $156 for storage. In any other laptop you could have a 1TB SSD for that price and that is a one time charge.

Apple's SSD tech is ridiculous and pushed to force people into their monthly subscriptions. Lenova has a laptop that is cheaper, thinner, lighter has more then 2 ports and uses a standard SSD and RAM that can be changed. Not sure of build quality, MacBook Pro laptops have always felt top notch and second to none, but for me that premium feel is becoming less important as you are paying a fortune for something you can never upgrade (without a hefty OWC price for what should be a simple hard drive).

Any Apple laptop is over $2000 just to get you 512 gigs in storage space. I went that route for my 13" MacBook Pro that I bought last year. It will be the last Apple laptop I ever buy. I needed something for when I travel if I have to do some work. Our shop is all Mac so a MacBook Pro made more sense to basically have everything duplicated on that. There were 2 things I wanted, well I wanted at least 1 of the 2. I wanted 16 gigs of RAM and 512 gig SSD. I was buying refurb so had to watch and see if anything popped up. Never saw both of those on one machine and opted for the larger hard drive. I do regret the purchase of the MacBook Pro completely, not because of the specs because that is it for that computer. No upgrades for the simple basic things to improve it and give it more life.
__________________
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” Bishop Desmond Tutu
wonderings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 12th, 2019, 02:03 PM   #10
Honourable Citizen
 
dona83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 6,499
2017 MacBook Pro or 2018 MacBook Air?

All my business stuff is in OneDrive which I’ll put on a USB-C thumb drive. My video editing stuff will be on an external hard drive. The video editing is not a huge part of what I do, it’s only to create little 30 second promotional videos and occasional videos up to 10 minutes long for my YouTube channel.

I already have Apple’s 2 TB plan because I love my photos on the cloud.

Part of me is also wondering if I should just get a PC for half the price. Some calculation software I run needs Windows and I do want to acquire Revit as well. But then I cringe at the last time I went PC instead of Mac.

My old iMac will remain for media storage and for the kids to use.
__________________
2017 MacBook Air, 2009 iMac 21.5", iPhone XR 128GB Black, iPad Pro 10.5" 256GB Wifi+LTE
dona83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:02 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 1999 - 2012, ehMac.ca All rights reserved. ehMac is not affiliated with Apple Inc. Mac, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, Apple TV are trademarks of Apple Inc. Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2

Tribe.ca: Urban living in Toronto!